#1 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Gods ( Hercules, Thor, Ares, Beta Ray Bill, Wonder Woman )

VS

Hulks ( Hulk, Rulk, Skaar, She-Hulk, Red-She Hulk )

Rules

  • No powers for Thor, Beta Ray Bill, and Wonder Woman )
  • Wonder Woman has same speed as Thor
  • No Mjolnir for Thor or Beta Ray Bill
  • No Lasso or Gaunlets for Wonder Woman
  • No Prep
  • Fight to death or ko
  • No morals
  • No BFR
  • Fight in New York
#2 Posted by NeonGameWave (7784 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks should win after a long, good and hard fight. The key players for the Gods team are Thor, and Wonder Woman. Without their powers they won`t be able to permanently put down the Hulks, and the Hulks will increase in power due to getting more angry and furious which will also increase all of their attributes making them invulnerable to basic attacks so through sheer force they should be able to take down the Gods. The Hulks will lose some of their comrades in battle though such as Rulk and She-Hulk the more weaker Hulks, Skaar will be able to get through but not easily. But the Hulks should take it.

#3 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

since its just strength and durability ill go with hulks

#4 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

Gods.

Beta Ray Bill...even without his hammer, is too much for these guys. He was able to match Thor when Thor had Mjonlir and BRB was without a weapon, and completely unenchanted (as in, in his base form), and was even able to disarm Thor long enough for him to revert to his Donald Blake form (which is what happened to classic Thor when he was without Mjonlir for more than 60 seconds). He was able to replicate this feat when the two fought unarmed and at full strength in Odin's little contest, and BRB stalemated Thor again.

However, I don't think anyone on Team Hulk has a strength feat that puts them anywhere near Beta Ray Bill, or even Thor for that matter in terms of strength. Plus Beta Ray Bill is faster, and has better reflexes than Thor, and it's doubtful these guys can do much of anything to him.

Then we have Hercules who has already beaten Hulk at least two times. In fact, the Hulk has 2 wins against Hercules, once when Herc was depowered, and even then Herc gave him a good fight, and once in World War Hulk, when Hercules was purposefully not defending himself and trying to reason with the Hulk as his friend.

Wonder Woman still has crazy good reflexes, and is better trained than most of team 2, and can match most of them in terms of strength.

Unless Ares has his gauntlets, he'll be useful here, but he's not winning against any of them (unless this is pre-Jupiter Suit She Hulk).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#5 Posted by Nefarious (20349 posts) - - Show Bio

Gods.

#6 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

Gods.

Beta Ray Bill...even without his hammer, is too much for these guys. He was able to match Thor when Thor had Mjonlir and BRB was without a weapon, and completely unenchanted (as in, in his base form), and was even able to disarm Thor long enough for him to revert to his Donald Blake form (which is what happened to classic Thor when he was without Mjonlir for more than 60 seconds). He was able to replicate this feat when the two fought unarmed and at full strength in Odin's little contest, and BRB stalemated Thor again.

However, I don't think anyone on Team Hulk has a strength feat that puts them anywhere near Beta Ray Bill, or even Thor for that matter in terms of strength. Plus Beta Ray Bill is faster, and has better reflexes than Thor, and it's doubtful these guys can do much of anything to him.

Then we have Hercules who has already beaten Hulk at least two times. In fact, the Hulk has 2 wins against Hercules, once when Herc was depowered, and even then Herc gave him a good fight, and once in World War Hulk, when Hercules was purposefully not defending himself and trying to reason with the Hulk as his friend.

Wonder Woman still has crazy good reflexes, and is better trained than most of team 2, and can match most of them in terms of strength.

Unless Ares has his gauntlets, he'll be useful here, but he's not winning against any of them (unless this is pre-Jupiter Suit She Hulk).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Are you saing BRB>Thor?

#7 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard to say, it would be a stomp for the gods if they had their powers however.

#8 Posted by SlimJ87D (9930 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks due to multiple restrictions on the gods.

#9 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk has broken planets and skaar can punch as hard a trillion tons

#10 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

hulks stomps

#11 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Floopay said:

Gods.

Beta Ray Bill...even without his hammer, is too much for these guys. He was able to match Thor when Thor had Mjonlir and BRB was without a weapon, and completely unenchanted (as in, in his base form), and was even able to disarm Thor long enough for him to revert to his Donald Blake form (which is what happened to classic Thor when he was without Mjonlir for more than 60 seconds). He was able to replicate this feat when the two fought unarmed and at full strength in Odin's little contest, and BRB stalemated Thor again.

However, I don't think anyone on Team Hulk has a strength feat that puts them anywhere near Beta Ray Bill, or even Thor for that matter in terms of strength. Plus Beta Ray Bill is faster, and has better reflexes than Thor, and it's doubtful these guys can do much of anything to him.

Then we have Hercules who has already beaten Hulk at least two times. In fact, the Hulk has 2 wins against Hercules, once when Herc was depowered, and even then Herc gave him a good fight, and once in World War Hulk, when Hercules was purposefully not defending himself and trying to reason with the Hulk as his friend.

Wonder Woman still has crazy good reflexes, and is better trained than most of team 2, and can match most of them in terms of strength.

Unless Ares has his gauntlets, he'll be useful here, but he's not winning against any of them (unless this is pre-Jupiter Suit She Hulk).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Are you saing BRB>Thor?

BRB > Thor in reflexes, speed, and power usage (tend to use all of his powers a bit more often)

Thor > BRB in versatility, travel speed, and power levels (more powerful energy blasts, but uses them less often)

Thor and BRB are roughly equals in terms of strength and durability. BRB's only advantage in this capacity is the fact that heat revitalizes him, whereas it can actually harm Thor if strong enough (that's a big if).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#12 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8281 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait... so Thor, Bill, and Diana don't have any powers? Why even have them on the team then?

#13 Posted by MrPhoenix (318 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

hulks stomps

#14 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725 said:

hulk has broken planets and skaar can punch as hard a trillion tons

Beta Ray Bill's highest quantified strength feat is his right here

Which was quantified as him having an amount of strain put on each side of his body to an amount equal to 1.05 sextillion metric tons pulling him in opposite directions (so 1.05 sextillion tons on each side of his body).

He and Thor have held Asgard in it's entirety together (which is about the size of Earth IIRC), and are both masters in hand to hand combat. I think I'm still going to vote for the gods.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#15 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, BRB and WW are still too fast for Hulks. With equal speed for all  - Hulks would win, due to Ares, unless he has his axe. In that case I see Thor taking it from him and cut Hulks down. 

#16 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk held sakaar together which is bigger than earth

#17 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725 said:

hulk held sakaar together which is bigger than earth

It may have been bigger, but who knows how much heavier it is. Beta Ray Bill was able to move and remain unharmed by 1.05 sextillion metric tons pulling him in opposite directions, that's 1,050,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons. Which is 1,155,000,000,000,000,000 tons. Not to mention Skaar had the Old Power to assist him greatly in that feat, so it's not like it was 100% done through sheer strength.

He's also tanked shots from Galactus, Kurse (who is 8 times stronger than Thor), and several others.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#18 Posted by Hyperlight (5836 posts) - - Show Bio

which hulk can make a difference but the fact of the matter is that thor and beta rays base level of strength is much higher than hulks and if they arent holding back they will use all of there knowledge experience and drive to win. the gods are better fighters with thousands of years of experience as wekl ( besides WW).

im going with the Gods

#19 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Floopay said:

Gods.

Beta Ray Bill...even without his hammer, is too much for these guys. He was able to match Thor when Thor had Mjonlir and BRB was without a weapon, and completely unenchanted (as in, in his base form), and was even able to disarm Thor long enough for him to revert to his Donald Blake form (which is what happened to classic Thor when he was without Mjonlir for more than 60 seconds). He was able to replicate this feat when the two fought unarmed and at full strength in Odin's little contest, and BRB stalemated Thor again.

However, I don't think anyone on Team Hulk has a strength feat that puts them anywhere near Beta Ray Bill, or even Thor for that matter in terms of strength. Plus Beta Ray Bill is faster, and has better reflexes than Thor, and it's doubtful these guys can do much of anything to him.

Then we have Hercules who has already beaten Hulk at least two times. In fact, the Hulk has 2 wins against Hercules, once when Herc was depowered, and even then Herc gave him a good fight, and once in World War Hulk, when Hercules was purposefully not defending himself and trying to reason with the Hulk as his friend.

Wonder Woman still has crazy good reflexes, and is better trained than most of team 2, and can match most of them in terms of strength.

Unless Ares has his gauntlets, he'll be useful here, but he's not winning against any of them (unless this is pre-Jupiter Suit She Hulk).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Are you saing BRB>Thor?

BRB > Thor in reflexes, speed, and power usage (tend to use all of his powers a bit more often)

Thor > BRB in versatility, travel speed, and power levels (more powerful energy blasts, but uses them less often)

Thor and BRB are roughly equals in terms of strength and durability. BRB's only advantage in this capacity is the fact that heat revitalizes him, whereas it can actually harm Thor if strong enough (that's a big if).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Oh I agree but it would take something hotter than the sun to burn Thor.

@Lady_Liberty said:

Wait... so Thor, Bill, and Diana don't have any powers? Why even have them on the team then?

Only durabilty, & super stength. Wonder Woman has speed of Thor.

@Floopay said:

@kgb725 said:

hulk has broken planets and skaar can punch as hard a trillion tons

Beta Ray Bill's highest quantified strength feat is his right here

Which was quantified as him having an amount of strain put on each side of his body to an amount equal to 1.05 sextillion metric tons pulling him in opposite directions (so 1.05 sextillion tons on each side of his body).

He and Thor have held Asgard in it's entirety together (which is about the size of Earth IIRC), and are both masters in hand to hand combat. I think I'm still going to vote for the gods.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Asgard is smaller than a continet.

#20 Posted by Fernando072295REBORN (502 posts) - - Show Bio

gods. Ares can go at it with she hulk for a bit, wondy can beat she rulk, bill will beat skaar, thor will beat rulk and hercules can last enough against hulk for others to help.

#21 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Floopay said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Floopay said:

Gods.

Beta Ray Bill...even without his hammer, is too much for these guys. He was able to match Thor when Thor had Mjonlir and BRB was without a weapon, and completely unenchanted (as in, in his base form), and was even able to disarm Thor long enough for him to revert to his Donald Blake form (which is what happened to classic Thor when he was without Mjonlir for more than 60 seconds). He was able to replicate this feat when the two fought unarmed and at full strength in Odin's little contest, and BRB stalemated Thor again.

However, I don't think anyone on Team Hulk has a strength feat that puts them anywhere near Beta Ray Bill, or even Thor for that matter in terms of strength. Plus Beta Ray Bill is faster, and has better reflexes than Thor, and it's doubtful these guys can do much of anything to him.

Then we have Hercules who has already beaten Hulk at least two times. In fact, the Hulk has 2 wins against Hercules, once when Herc was depowered, and even then Herc gave him a good fight, and once in World War Hulk, when Hercules was purposefully not defending himself and trying to reason with the Hulk as his friend.

Wonder Woman still has crazy good reflexes, and is better trained than most of team 2, and can match most of them in terms of strength.

Unless Ares has his gauntlets, he'll be useful here, but he's not winning against any of them (unless this is pre-Jupiter Suit She Hulk).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Are you saing BRB>Thor?

BRB > Thor in reflexes, speed, and power usage (tend to use all of his powers a bit more often)

Thor > BRB in versatility, travel speed, and power levels (more powerful energy blasts, but uses them less often)

Thor and BRB are roughly equals in terms of strength and durability. BRB's only advantage in this capacity is the fact that heat revitalizes him, whereas it can actually harm Thor if strong enough (that's a big if).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Oh I agree but it would take something hotter than the sun to burn Thor.

@Lady_Liberty said:

Wait... so Thor, Bill, and Diana don't have any powers? Why even have them on the team then?

Only durabilty, & super stength. Wonder Woman has speed of Thor.

@Floopay said:

@kgb725 said:

hulk has broken planets and skaar can punch as hard a trillion tons

Beta Ray Bill's highest quantified strength feat is his right here

Which was quantified as him having an amount of strain put on each side of his body to an amount equal to 1.05 sextillion metric tons pulling him in opposite directions (so 1.05 sextillion tons on each side of his body).

He and Thor have held Asgard in it's entirety together (which is about the size of Earth IIRC), and are both masters in hand to hand combat. I think I'm still going to vote for the gods.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Asgard is smaller than a continet.

It also is much more dense than the earth, and has a huge amount of mass that extends beneath it.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: That's true

#23 Edited by xlab3000 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks

#24 Posted by Pyrogram (38375 posts) - - Show Bio

Gods in a good fight

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#25 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: Scientist have estimated/calculated the amount of force produced from the gravity of a black hole? When was this? I thought they were supposed to be infinite?

#26 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks no doubt even if the gods had there powers and weapons

#27 Posted by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio

This is close, but still gods would win, and that guy who said Thor can be harmed with heat, Thor was in the centre of the sun, and he said that he can walk on stars.

#28 Posted by age_of_ultron_Prime2000 (1217 posts) - - Show Bio

Gods

#29 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks

#30 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@Soothing_Sounds said:

@Floopay: Scientist have estimated/calculated the amount of force produced from the gravity of a black hole? When was this? I thought they were supposed to be infinite?

Yes actually. They are far from infinite, and it's dependent on size and etc. of course. Essentially it's a collapsed star.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#31 Posted by beautifulrevery (1508 posts) - - Show Bio

@Soothing_Sounds said:

@Floopay: Scientist have estimated/calculated the amount of force produced from the gravity of a black hole? When was this? I thought they were supposed to be infinite?

Black holes are collapsed stars and thus the amount of force can be determined by their mass and the acceleration of surrounding objects I believe. Black holes are so wrongly named that it's somewhat hilarious since they aren't really holes at all. If our sun were replaced by a black hole today that was the exact density and mass we would still orbit around it as if nothing had occurred(except we'd all be dead from the cold).

#32 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: @beautifulrevery: That's interesting. My science teacher once said that a black hole essentially continues to devour any and everything in it's path as it grows. Is this true?

#33 Posted by XiiX (8262 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Gods.
#34 Posted by beautifulrevery (1508 posts) - - Show Bio

@Soothing_Sounds said:

@Floopay: @beautifulrevery: That's interesting. My science teacher once said that a black hole essentially continues to devour any and everything in it's path as it grows. Is this true?

When was this? The only time something is sucked into a black hole is once it passes it's event horizon. It doesn't devour everything in it's path. If so then we're all probably hurtling towards the theoretical black hole in the center of the milky way while it expands toward us but that's not happening.

#35 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery said:

@Soothing_Sounds said:

@Floopay: @beautifulrevery: That's interesting. My science teacher once said that a black hole essentially continues to devour any and everything in it's path as it grows. Is this true?

When was this? The only time something is sucked into a black hole is once it passes it's event horizon. It doesn't devour everything in it's path. If so then we're all probably hurtling towards the theoretical black hole in the center of the milky way while it expands toward us but that's not happening.

Agreed. Essentially they are just like every other object in space, they have an appropriate amount of gravity for their total amount of mass.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#36 Posted by HiddenOne (22 posts) - - Show Bio

The hulks would destroy the gods