God Emperor of Mankind (40K) vs Grand Master Luke Skywalker

3 Rounds. Death, KO, BFR. In character.

Battle is on the planet like earth. Luke and Emperor start 20 miles away. Netrual universe where Force Exists with Warp.

1) No prep, Random Encounter.

2) 10 years prep, no the others abilities.

3) All out war in Death Star where both parties are Blood Lusted and need to be carefule.

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Emperor of Mankind http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind

Luke Skywalker http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker

@JediXMan:

The Emperors Bio from Lost and the Damned.

Emperor Time Freezes and Forsees the mutiple outcomes of the Futur after the Chaos Gods sends his son Horus into the past. This proved to be the Emperor Undoing and bad case of judgement.

Alpha Level Psyker (quite a few of those with the Emperor and Magus the Red being the Strongest) Psychicly creats infection and disease. His Psy is so powerful he contorl mutiple Solar Systems with many times earth population with his mind. He holds together scores of Miles long 40K ships with his power over a span of mutiple solar systems (Light Years). His power even infects the very Sun of a Solar System. Thats one of quite a few Alpha Psykers.

The Emperor powers are the strongest out of any Alpha Psyker that ever lived.

Angron is one of the 20 Primarchs of the Emperor. His Strength and Durabilty suggest he can end the Hulk in a Fight with his 2 Axes. This is before the Horus Heresy ofcourse and since then Angron is a Daemon Prince Primarch and has WAAAY more power.

@ShootingNova said:

@CadenceV2: Are those the Emperor's best feats? It seems like he is on-par with Darth Sidious.

Emperor stomps, i should say. It is said that just LOOKING at the Emperor's face is enough to drive a marine (one of the most resilient beings, made to resist such effects) crazy. Just from looking at it. He is said to be on par with any of the Chaos Gods. I'd say he is one of the few beings in the 49k word to top Grand Master Luke.

Emperor to me. Besides the fact that he is extremely powerful, he is also experienced to an unrivalled level. 10000 years of using your powers 24/7 probably provides you with a hell of a training.

@ShootingNova said:

@JediWaffles: Umm.......? So that's putting him above Palpatine? Palpatine killed people by looking at them. He's enslaved twenty billion people's minds simultaneously and instantaneously effortlessly without doing any kind of action, really. He has incapacitated Jedi masters from across the galaxy, and manipulates emotions that are from the future.

But by looking at them, Palpatine did something. The Emperor is so powerful, that just looking at him drives people completely crazy. Note that he's not exerting any effort, or even trying to kill them. His power is so great it is absolutely incomprehensible and enough to drive someone crazy. The Emperor's power would be somewhat on par or above Palpatine, judging by those feats.

@ShootingNova said:

@JediWaffles: Palpatine didn't really exert effort.

I know, but my point is, that's just how powerful he is, that his very existence drives people crazy. Not sure about his reaction speeds, but i do believe he can see into the future and react accordingly, which is kind of the same thing. All the little nuances of the more powerful entities in the 40k universe aren't as familiar to me, although i will search it up for your benefit.

@DocFatalis said:

Emperor to me. Besides the fact that he is extremely powerful, he is also experienced to an unrivalled level. 10000 years of using your powers 24/7 probably provides you with a hell of a training.

Except he's been a decomposing corpse for the last 10k years thanks to Horus.

@Outside_85 said:

@DocFatalis said:

Emperor to me. Besides the fact that he is extremely powerful, he is also experienced to an unrivalled level. 10000 years of using your powers 24/7 probably provides you with a hell of a training.

Except he's been a decomposing corpse for the last 10k years thanks to Horus.

I wasn't talking about physical exertion: he's had 10 000 years to perfect the way he uses his psy powers.

@DocFatalis: True, but you have to keep in mind that either he is a 10.000 years old immobile psychic or he is a much younger man (probably in his physical prime). OP hasn't been so kind to define which one it is (though I suspect it's the younger one).

@ShootingNova said:

@JediWaffles: Okay.

Nice debating with you, buddy. Haven't done so in a while, we're usually on the same side lol.

@Outside_85 said:

@DocFatalis: True, but you have to keep in mind that either he is a 10.000 years old immobile psychic or he is a much younger man (probably in his physical prime). OP hasn't been so kind to define which one it is (though I suspect it's the younger one).

Uh, and that's when I realize I don't know enough about War Hammer 40K.

I just assumed that was the old emperor I know, I practically know nothing about the younger versions.

@Strider92: well that's likely true, but I am not sure by how much...the books that I do have don't specify how long it took the Emperor to first take over Earth, then create the Space Marines and their Primarchs and how much time passed before the Horus Heresy happened...but it appears to all have been at a phenomenal speed (some of the stories suggest some of the Primarchs were recovered as little as 10-15 years after they were lost).

@DocFatalis: Hmm may I ask what the old version you know was like? As far as I know he's always been what he is with the present WH 40K world...and usual CV battle rules dictate its the most recent version thats used unless otherwise specified :S

Well Abilities wise Emperor has many of them. Each Primarch has inhereted one of many abilities from the Emperor.

Examples of personnel feats are Wrecking Titans with his TK.

Slowing Time. Stopping Time.

Precognition into thousands of years and process the futur in his mind in a instant.

Golden Light that either Blind men, Drive Insane, or simply Not Want To Fight.

He also is a Psyker that can reach Minds across Galaxies, hold Billions of people under his influence, or Pull your Soul from your Body.

Like Magnus the Red the Emperor has the ability to Creat Warp Storms to enfulf whole Battle Fleets.

Lift over Thousand Tons. Durable to be hit with a Thousand Tons.

Has a Healing Factor. Immune to Poison and Disease. Effectivly Immortal.

Been alive for 30,000 Years.

He is also a Genious Inttelect. He harness some of the Chaos Gods powers to Geneticly creat the Primarchs, Custodes, Thunder Marines, Space Marines, and conquer most of the Galaxy.

He also has a Potent Force Weapon / Power Weapon. Power Fist. Iron Halo Energy Field. As well Terminator Armour.

@Outside_85: By old version I meant the old man on the golden throne. Otherwise, the handbook I used was released in 1987 I think. We played it that summer with two friends for the first time. I remember we were doing our own pawns out of cardboard in some occasions and mainly playing on a table tennis table in the garden.

@DocFatalis: sigh Good days.

This is the Crusade Era Version.

@DocFatalis:Ok that's a bit different from the two rulebooks I have (which is the 2008 and the one before) and some codex's plus a stack of White Dwarf Magazine's from the same period. Those at least specify the present day Emperor as a dying man only kept alive by the Golden Throne, who hasnt moved or said a word since Sanguinius recovered his body from Horus' battle barge...the gist is however quite a lot of the Imperium thinks the Emperor is alive and kicking...and Earth kinda likes to keep it that way. The Traitor Marines however are quite blunt about what to call him and his current status.

@CadenceV2: Hmm, as impressive as Luke and Jedi's tend to sound like outside of the movie's...I think the Emperor takes this considering his psychic powers are even at present used by every warp capable ship as a beacon to steer after when they are in transit...that said the beacon is almost gone once you reach the outer edges of the galaxy. Also it took the four Chaos Gods rallying behind the Emperor's greatest son to rival him in the end.

I think the Emperor takes this encounter.His only problem here could be his own humanity if he felt Luke was not a threat to his people.

If he holds back like he did against Horus anything could happen imo.

Morals off then it will be a blood bath in the Emperors favour.