Goblin-Family Vs Bat-Family

Goblin-Family

Green Goblin (Norman post Gathering Of Five), Green Goblin (Harry), Hobgoblin (Kingsley), Hobgoblin (Urich), Menace

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Bat-Family

Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Red Robin, Red Hood, Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Robin (Damian)

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• Morals On
• No Prep
• Standard Gear
• Win by KO, Death or Incap

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Team Gobby they are all Enhance humans. Also if morals are on, No one in the Bat-Family is going to kill. Especially with Bats around. Whereas the Goblins have no problem blowing them up.

Red Hood would have no problems with killing. Team Batman takes this, not only do they out number team Goblin, but they will easily out smart them similar to how spider man.

There are a lot of variables but I lean to the goblins. Phils scream can take out multiple enemies at once and I think he has the ability to control the radius of the scream (all though I have to reread some of his showings)

@Captain_Awesome85 said:

Red Hood would have no problems with killing. Team Batman takes this, not only do they out number team Goblin, but they will easily out smart them similar to how spider man.

All the Goblins have to do is stay high above on there gliders and make it rain with pumpkin bombs.

I ment based on morals, not that he would easily kill them. I'll word it better next time.

Goblin team. Phil could use his scream while the rest of team spam the Bat team with pumpkin bombs.

Goblin team take this one easy. Without prep, the Bat family is seriously handicapped here.

no love for Barbara Gordon :(

(Does anybody even know her feats when she was batgirl?)

Goblins stomp easily.

WIthout prep., the Goblins take this fairly easily. They have a huge strength and speed advantage. Not to mention flight and deadlier arsenal as part of their standard gear. Plus none of them (well maybe Harry) have morals so "morals on" doesn't hinder them in anyway.

@GrandSymbiote94: and @jashro44: the only problem is see with that scream is that wouldn't it hurt his team as well as bats?

@Moonchilde said:

WIthout prep., the Goblins take this fairly easily. They have a huge strength and speed advantage. Not to mention flight and deadlier arsenal as part of their standard gear. Plus none of them (well maybe Harry) have morals so "morals on" doesn't hinder them in anyway.

@LordVulcan: Depends how close the other goblins are.

Yeah... Like the bat family has no experience with Meta-humans...

I could see a large number of this group falling to hobgoblins lunatic laugh,,Eire way I'm going with the goblin family

@LordVulcan said:

@GrandSymbiote94: and @jashro44: the only problem is see with that scream is that wouldn't it hurt his team as well as bats?

I dunno. In Spider-Island, he was using his scream against the wasps when fighting with the hand, Arana, and Kingpin. They didn't seemed effected by it. But I don't think that counts as a good example.

Batman wins via anti-goblin spray.

in seriousness, Goblins take 8/10

@nickthedevil said:

Yeah... Like the bat family has no experience with Meta-humans...

We all know this. But I don't think Bat-Family can handle the goblins arsenal. Especially the lunatic laugh.

@laflux said:

@Moonchilde said:

WIthout prep., the Goblins take this fairly easily. They have a huge strength and speed advantage. Not to mention flight and deadlier arsenal as part of their standard gear. Plus none of them (well maybe Harry) have morals so "morals on" doesn't hinder them in anyway.

I shall gladly third this post. Wonderful post you have there Laflux. ^-^

@Alice_Summers said:

no love for Barbara Gordon :(

(Does anybody even know her feats when she was batgirl?)

Babs has better H2h feats as Oracle I bet hahaha

I would say the Goblins, but they are outnumbered and outgunned. I mean, Batman is on the other team! He could take out Green Goblin solo.

@Captain_Awesome85 said:

Red Hood would have no problems with killing. Team Batman takes this, not only do they out number team Goblin, but they will easily out smart them similar to how spider man.

Bat family doesn't have prep an their numbers mean jack. Bats isn't soloing anyone on team Goblin w/o serious prep. Each one of team Goblin is around a 10 tonner an has various other superhuman stats. Lock this thread before more ridiculous Bat-wanking needlessly goes on.

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: I know the power of the goblins but pumpkin bombs are nothing against stealth and severe combat training. If a wing ding or a batarang takes out a glider, its over for that goblin.

Without prep the Goblin physical stats are a little too high in addition to the flight. Team Goblin takes it.

Pros for Team Goblin is more maneuverability, enhanced stats, and ability to kill.

Pros for Team Bats is teamwork and some impressive gadgetry.

Honestly I lean towards Team Goblin but I honestly see this going either way. Jason gets blown up though he never plays smart.