Gladiator vs. Guy Gardner

" @The Mango said:

" That was dialog, superman was probably exaggerating the power of that punch. "

Previously, they were trading blows with the power of nuclear bombs while they were holding back because of the environment and the fact that Teth just wanted to talk to him and Superman didn't want any civilian to be hurt. "

" That was dialog, superman was probably exaggerating the power of that punch. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @The Mango said:

" That was dialog, superman was probably exaggerating the power of that punch. "

Previously, they were trading blows with the power of nuclear bombs while they were holding back because of the environment and the fact that Teth just wanted to talk to him and Superman didn't want any civilian to be hurt. "

I don't doubt that. Any superman level character would certainly be able to throw punches more powerful than nuclear explosions. I DO doubt that punch was as powerful as he claimed. "

" @czarny_samael said:

" 2.Read the narration in scan. Also, I don't know how big was this planet, but I am trying to deny Your argument about not knowing the size of planet. All destroying-planet feats should be considered the same, until it is said that this planet is bigger/smaller than Earth. 
5.I know that SN produce many kinds of energy, but it is eaiser for Supe than for any others, because he can absorb part of it when others can't. Supernove can destroy solar system and this nova could destroy half of it, but there are two things for Glad. a) he take all this power on his body, not only a part of it & b) it didn't harm him. Third, I need to see this Supe feat.
 
Still, Superman is better if we are talking about lifitng/pulling something (1/3 of a planet > big asteroids/Baxter Building) , but Gladiator is better if we are talking about destroying objects (planet > moon).
@Fist_of_Mandalore said:

"   Once again I'm not really arguing Glads wins, but I think he is stronger than what is being admitted to.  "

Exactly the same. Gardner maybe will win, maybe not, I am not sure about it yet, but Gladiator should be considered as a big threat for him and herald/Superman level character. "

2. And as I said, he thrashed at it consistently and used his heat vision. It was not instantaneous destruction. It was a very impressive feat, but I have seen greater feats. 5. SuperMan cannot absorb any of it. Supernova energy outbursts are not the equivalent of solar energy emissions. SuperMan was very close to a supernova, and it only managed to knock him out for a short time. Besides, SuperMan has flown into a double hole completely unharmed. That trumps Gladiator's feat anyway.   That is not necessarily true. It was a dark matter moon that he destroyed in one hit. It's different particle mass is what knocked him out; otherwise it was PIS as he has taken worse. Gladiator destroyed a planet after thrashing on it consistently. There is a difference in those instances.  "

GLADIATOR

2.I was talking about Hyperion scan.
5."Besides, SuperMan has flown into a double hole completely unharmed" - I don't get it.You mean black hole? Gladiator flown into star and he wasn't even hurt by this.
And the point is - Glad is in his level, not that Gladiator can defeat him. Supe can be better than him, but it will be like Morg>Firelord, not like Surfer>Hulk. Both, Superman and Gladiator showed great strength, speed, reflex, laser vision and durability. If we can agree with this, it should be a time when we can back to Gardner and his best feats. P.S. Gladiator didn't use his vision to destroy the planet, he used it to find a planet without life. P.S.2.I would like to see metioned Supe feats. "

" @Pr_Beyonder said:

" @GreenLantern555: how so :o? "

Cause you said that you were called a troll for bringing up Divine Spawn like five minutes before on one of my threads before you posted this. ;-) It was funny.  "

" @czarny_samael said: 

2.I was talking about Hyperion scan.
5."Besides, SuperMan has flown into a double hole completely unharmed" - I don't get it.You mean black hole? Gladiator flown into star and he wasn't even hurt by this.
And the point is - Glad is in his level, not that Gladiator can defeat him. Supe can be better than him, but it will be like Morg>Firelord, not like Surfer>Hulk. Both, Superman and Gladiator showed great strength, speed, reflex, laser vision and durability. If we can agree with this, it should be a time when we can back to Gardner and his best feats. P.S. Gladiator didn't use his vision to destroy the planet, he used it to find a planet without life. P.S.2.I would like to see metioned Supe feats. "

2. It makes no difference. Hyperion is not on SuperMan's level either. 5. No, I mean a double black hole. There were actually two that he was inside. Flying into a star is no nearly as impressive as flying into a black hole. Besides, SuperMan flew through a red star, and red star radiation weakens him.  Gladiator cannot measure up with SuperMan. SuperMan and Zod destroyed a planet by punching each other. Gladiator destroyed a planet by smashing the planet itself. Gladiator lifted a meteor. SuperMan moved Mageddon. Gladiator has taken a  nova. SuperMan has gone in and out of a double black hole. They are not comparable. Top tier Green Lanterns>SuperMan>Gladiator.  "

2.The narration in the scan. It said that they "produced planet pulverizing forces" 5.Flying into BH is better than flying into star, but it isn't more impress than taking nova that can destroy half of solar system. Green Lantern maybe can defeat Supe, but this doesn't mean that they are taking all his feats for themselves. U-Foes KO'd Thor, but they can't destroy a planet or take such blasts on them just by this fight. 6.I need scans because this feats are really big so I would like to read them and maybe copy them. "

Definitely Gladiator. His feats put him above Guy Gardner.
 
Destroying a planet
Reacting at nanosecond speed fighting against Hyperion
Flying through a star
 
Just to name a few. I don't see Guy Gardner winning.

" @czarny_samael said: 

2.The narration in the scan. It said that they "produced planet pulverizing forces" 5.Flying into BH is better than flying into star, but it isn't more impress than taking nova that can destroy half of solar system. Green Lantern maybe can defeat Supe, but this doesn't mean that they are taking all his feats for themselves. U-Foes KO'd Thor, but they can't destroy a planet or take such blasts on them just by this fight. 6.I need scans because this feats are really big so I would like to read them and maybe copy them. "

2. So? Hyperion still has no feats that put him on par with SuperMan. 5. Black holes are often times larger than galaxies, and given that SuperMan flew into two, yes, it was more impressive. Green Lanterns can destroy planets though, and they have contained supernovas before using their shields. 6. Either ask someone else, or wait for me to find them, because I do not have a scanner. For me to post scans, I would have to search for scans that have been posted on various forums.  "

" @Silver2467 said:

" @czarny_samael said: 

2.The narration in the scan. It said that they "produced planet pulverizing forces" 5.Flying into BH is better than flying into star, but it isn't more impress than taking nova that can destroy half of solar system. Green Lantern maybe can defeat Supe, but this doesn't mean that they are taking all his feats for themselves. U-Foes KO'd Thor, but they can't destroy a planet or take such blasts on them just by this fight. 6.I need scans because this feats are really big so I would like to read them and maybe copy them. "

2. So? Hyperion still has no feats that put him on par with SuperMan. 5. Black holes are often times larger than galaxies, and given that SuperMan flew into two, yes, it was more impressive. Green Lanterns can destroy planets though, and they have contained supernovas before using their shields. 6. Either ask someone else, or wait for me to find them, because I do not have a scanner. For me to post scans, I would have to search for scans that have been posted on various forums.  "

2.This is a prove that both of them can destroy a planet. 5.And often they're not. And as with Quasar, brute strength will be more efective against them than supernova.  6.Ok. "

" @czarny_samael said:

" @Silver2467 said:

" @czarny_samael said: 

2.The narration in the scan. It said that they "produced planet pulverizing forces" 5.Flying into BH is better than flying into star, but it isn't more impress than taking nova that can destroy half of solar system. Green Lantern maybe can defeat Supe, but this doesn't mean that they are taking all his feats for themselves. U-Foes KO'd Thor, but they can't destroy a planet or take such blasts on them just by this fight. 6.I need scans because this feats are really big so I would like to read them and maybe copy them. "

2. So? Hyperion still has no feats that put him on par with SuperMan. 5. Black holes are often times larger than galaxies, and given that SuperMan flew into two, yes, it was more impressive. Green Lanterns can destroy planets though, and they have contained supernovas before using their shields. 6. Either ask someone else, or wait for me to find them, because I do not have a scanner. For me to post scans, I would have to search for scans that have been posted on various forums.  "

2.This is a prove that both of them can destroy a planet. 5.And often they're not. And as with Quasar, brute strength will be more efective against them than supernova.  6.Ok. "

2. SuperMan and Zod destroyed a planet by punching each other during For Tomorrow.  5. Double black hole>nova. That is my last word on the matter. Besides, given SuperMan's absorption of the Mageddon warhead and his supernova feat, it is nothing that would lead me to assume Gladiator is superior to SuperMan or Guy Gardner.  "

2.So this two feats are even. 5.This is not the point of this debate. I said before that my point is: Gladiator is in their level. Superman maybe will win with him, but not easily. This will be a hard fight and if they will be in teams, result of this fight won't give any site an advantage in final score. For example: Hal Jordan & Superman & Cap. Marvel vs. Gladiator & Quasar & Ronan - DC team will win because Supe vs. Glad - good battle, HJ vs. Quasar - good battle, but CM will defeat Ronan in curbstomp. But when we will replace Ronan with Morg WoL, Marvel will win because M WoL > CM. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Guy kills him within morals. "

"

Guy Gardner takes this quite easily!

" 2. Alright. It has been trumped by some of SuperMan's other strength feats though. 5. SuperMan>Gladiator. Far more numerous and superior strength, speed, and durability feats. Top tier Green Lanterns>SuperMan>Gladiator. I have said that before. Gardner wins.  "

Superman would beat Gladiator very easily, Gladiator isn't even light speed without tapping into hyperspace and even then Supes is still leagues faster then he is
 
Gardner stomps this pathetic knock off

" Superman would beat Gladiator very easily, Gladiator isn't even light speed without tapping into hyperspace and even then Supes is still leagues faster then he is  Gardner stomps this pathetic knock off "

Does anyone have feats for Guy Gardner, which would put him on the same level as Hal, Kyle or John?

@The Last Son Of Krypton said:

" why? "

Because he is durable enough to create shields that block Superman level characters, can casually exceed light with no problem, took out Kilowog and numerous Rocket Reds by himself, one-shot several Sinestro Corps members, stalemating the Eradicator, etc. Gladiator has no right to even look at Guy.

First thread I've seen where people are actually advocating for Guy Gardner.

Does anyone have feats for Guy Gardner, which would put him on the same level as Hal, Kyle or John?

Guy wins. He is much more versatile. His shields can stand up to Gladiator, he's fast enough to engage him in combat, he has better ranged attacks, he can throw him through a wormhole,... I'm betting the ring can scan Glads and generate that radiation that robs him of his powers too.

Guy Gardner I believe =)

I lean towards Guy here, but is marvel lets gladiator keep going in his current direction, it may head the other way, but right now GUY

bump

Guy Gardner.

why the heck would anyone bump this old thread... and then be blatantly wrong while bumping it

Gladiator.

Guy gets punched out..again

could go either way, siding with gladiator but if guy is persistent enough he could win in a long tough fight

@logy5000

Gladiator.

Guy Gardner wins.

Woah!! I have plenty of GL Books...They will always for the most part get their ass handed to them by a Powerful speeding flying brick, w/o prep or major skill in Will Power or amp

I like Guy Gardner he's a badass but Gladiator @100% isn't going to be K.O by any if his constructs, and with his speed he'll break Gardner in two after a decent struggle.

Guy still sucks.

Gladiator destroys.

Glads.

Guy Guardner

@cochise:

Wishful thinking there. A GL ring scanning and creating weaknesses? The ring isn't Firestorm or Silver Surfer. GLs are versatile, and still have trouble with opponents with the Superman type power set.

@strike3: You do realize you are replying to a user who hasn't been posting anything for more than a year? Also that comment is six and a half years old so why in God's name would you even bother reading it, even less start an argument on an old thread over it? It is a pointless bump.

gunna side with Gladiator mainly because I hate Guy

Gladiator

Why would you reply to a 6 and a half year old post?