#1 Edited by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos is current version (the one trapped in Cancerverse). No cosmic cubes, Infinity gems, minions etc. He is motivated to win.

Round 1

Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)

Round 2

Ghost Rider (Zarathos) and bloodlusted

Who wins and why? Can Thanos kill Ghost Rider?

#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider wins both rounds,

#3 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

#4 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

#5 Posted by GhostRider2 (3328 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

#6 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

#7 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.
#8 Posted by GhostRider2 (3328 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

#9 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio
@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

penace stareis a sort of psychic attack, and it has its limitations. thanos has shown powerful telepathic skills and energy attacks, not to mention his high level technology. he has gone toe to toe with a power gem user and odin, and defeated galactus using his intellect, even before he was upgraded with a power boost and become immune to death.
#10 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

#11 Posted by GhostRider2 (3328 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama: he is immortal....honestly i don't see a win for thanos.

#12 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider2: I really don't see your point, so is Thanos.

#13 Posted by GhostRider2 (3328 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: read the post above mine :)

#14 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio
@whydama said:

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

no, the Penace stare wont work. it wont even work on someone on drugs, how do you expect it to work on telepaths?
#15 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz: He never overpowered Galactus in a physic battle, he entered Galactus' mind with the help of moon dragan then they both got themselves mind-raped. @GhostRider2: Aye, I seen it. In that comic Thanos was the avatar of death, empowered by lady death who is kinda in charge of who and what dies in the MU. Thanos could kill the immortal creatures that were immune to death. I'm not certain on this but that should give him the nod to permanently put down GR.

#16 Posted by GhostRider2 (3328 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz: it worked on Strange.

#17 Posted by Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper (597 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos. He's not dumb enough to stand around and let GR use the penance stare on him.

#18 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@kcaz
@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.
#19 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@kcaz
@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.
Excuse my last post I messed up...this is wat I meant to say. Telepaths are not immune to penance stare and its not a psychic technique like u claim it to be. Penance stare only have a few limitations to it and telepaths isn't one of them. If u are mentally unstable(for examples....symbiotes, drugs) the penace stare won't work. If u dnt have a soul, if u have more than two eyes, or ur blind then it won't work also. Telepaths are in no way immune to penance stare. GR is immune to physical damage...only supernatural or strong magic can give it discomfort even tho it still cannot kill the rider. Thanos has no way to put him down. Thanos might be able to KO johnny blaze since WWH was able to do it. But in round 2 vs zarathos. Thanos has NO CHANCE of winning
#20 Posted by HigorM (3908 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider can´t be killed with that kind of attack.. he can heal from damage.. he withstood attacks from WWHulk before..

Thanos would need prep time to use holy weapons against him..

don´t know if hellfire can hurt Thanos, or if the penance stare would work..

#21 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@whydama

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

No, that will not incapacitate nor kill the rider. Most projectiles phase right thru ghost rider even energy blasts. And u dnt seem to know much about Ghost Rider. Ghost rider cannot be killed....period. And that blast shown above would have no effect on johnny blaze or zarathos
#22 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1561 posts) - - Show Bio

So the argument for for GR is that he can't die

We have no idea if the penance stare will work

Also Thanos has some experience in the Mystical arts.

Round 1: Thanos

Round 2: Probably GR but I am not for sure.

#23 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Penance stare has nothing to do with tp. Penance stare Wrecks Thanos.

#24 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1561 posts) - - Show Bio

@KMART4455:

Is that a given? the only way that can be a given if it has been used on Thanos.

#25 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@KMART4455:

Is that a given? the only way that can be a given if it has been used on Thanos.

I see nothing saying Thanos has so soul. If you have a tainted soul and have caused people hurt the PS is supposed to Wreck.

#26 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1561 posts) - - Show Bio

@KMART4455:

He was banned from the afterlife by Death.

Also has GR used the penance stare on aliens? it may not work.

#27 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@KMART4455:

He was banned from the afterlife by Death.

Also has GR used the penance stare on aliens? it may not work.

If the creature in question has a tainted soul then The penance stare Wrecks. Its what its whole purpose is.

However Thanos may not have a soul. If this is the case the stare would not work. However I do not think it says anywhere he doesnt have one.

It is speculation but in a practical sense I think most sentient beings in comic books are supposed to have souls.

If you can prove Thanos has no soul I concede that the PS would not work. Till then I think thats how he gets the Win.

#28 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1561 posts) - - Show Bio

@KMART4455:

Fair enough.

I just think it is difficult to decide because we have to speculate whether the PS would work.

#29 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@KMART4455:

Fair enough.

I just think it is difficult to decide because we have to speculate whether the PS would work.

agreed

#30 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

@whydama

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

No, that will not incapacitate nor kill the rider. Most projectiles phase right thru ghost rider even energy blasts. And u dnt seem to know much about Ghost Rider. Ghost rider cannot be killed....period. And that blast shown above would have no effect on johnny blaze or zarathos

This is Thanos killing immortal creatures. It affected immortal creatures who were drawing from the Old Gods. I am pretty sure Zarathos will be affected

#31 Posted by Sparksdog (37 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos loses very badly....

#32 Posted by darktiger (4619 posts) - - Show Bio

The penance stare don't work on thanos,I say thanos in a stomp

#33 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@whydama

@ghost_rider1 said:

@whydama

@GhostRider2 said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@whydama said:

@jeanroygrant:

Why?

Penace stare.

penace stare will never work, thanos is a very powerful telepath, who even overpowered galactus in a telepathy battle.

Really?It dosen't matter once he get a hold on Thanos and do it, there is no escape.And the stare will work.

Penace stare will hurt Thanos a lot.... But this kind of attack will kill if not incapacitate Ghost Rider

No, that will not incapacitate nor kill the rider. Most projectiles phase right thru ghost rider even energy blasts. And u dnt seem to know much about Ghost Rider. Ghost rider cannot be killed....period. And that blast shown above would have no effect on johnny blaze or zarathos

This is Thanos killing immortal creatures. It affected immortal creatures who were drawing from the Old Gods. I am pretty sure Zarathos will be affected

Immortal creatures isn't the same thing as zarathos. ONLY a weapon forged from heaven can kill a rider. Physical damage, energy blasts, etc jus won't work. Penance will wotk on him if he can use his chains to hold him down for GR to lock eyes with him. I explained the limitations of the penance stare and thanos doesn't meet any of them
#34 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger

The penance stare don't work on thanos,I say thanos in a stomp

yes it will
#35 Posted by darktiger (4619 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1:no it won't

#36 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is everyone ignoring the fact Ghost-Rider cant be injured (let alone killed) by anything that isnt magical in nature,as well as the fact that GR has several means to injure his opponents that arent related to his Penance Stare (Wich will work and theres nothing to suggest otherwise)?
 
 
Simply put,Thanos has no means to stop Ghost-Rider,while the inverse is not true (outside of BFR).

#37 Posted by Billy Batson (58070 posts) - - Show Bio

What could Thanos even do to Ghost Rider? :-/
BB

#38 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

What could Ghost RIder even do to Thanos? 0_o;

#39 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger said:

@ghost_rider1:no it won't

Ok,for the sake of argument,lets say it cant affect him.
 
So?
 
Ghost-Rider attacks with Hell-Fire (wich has shown to injure WWH and one-shot a being that had 50% of the Devil`s power) until Thanos goes down,the end.
 
And dont get me started on Zarathos.....
 
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

What could Ghost RIder even do to Thanos? 0_o;


Penance Stare (Still no evidence that Thanos is immune to it),Hell-Fire or keep fighting him hand-to-hand until one of then faints due to exaustion (Guess who...hint,it isnt the dude that cant tire).
It is also fuly possible that his chain will be able to injure Thanos,but he doesnt needs it.
#40 Posted by darktiger (4619 posts) - - Show Bio

dude that's hulk we talking about freaking thanos he will destroy ghost rider with one freaking blast

#41 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger said:

dude that's hulk we talking about freaking thanos he will destroy ghost rider with one freaking blast

WWH had a huge amount of durability and Hell-Fire still injured him,even if Thanos is tougher than he is,it will still affect him.
 
I assume the fact Ghost-Rider had his entire head destroyed and healed it within 2 panels wont help him,in that case?
#42 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger

@ghost_rider1:no it won't

Well explain ur reasoning why it won't affect him. Simply saying it can't is weak and holds no weight
#43 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1:Thanos stomps

Round 2:GR

#44 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger

dude that's hulk we talking about freaking thanos he will destroy ghost rider with one freaking blast

U know nothing about GR. Thanos cannot destroy GR
#45 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Stronger said:

Round 1:Thanos stomps

Explain how Thanos can harm someone that is immune to anything that isnt magical,who was teared apart by WWH only to reform in a few seconds,pissed off,but unharmed.
 
I seriously dont understand that,if you can explain it,i will be very grateful.
#46 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Matezoide2 said:

@Stronger said:

Round 1:Thanos stomps

Explain how Thanos can harm someone that is immune to anything that isnt magical,who was teared apart by WWH only to reform in a few seconds,pissed off,but unharmed. I will wait.

Normal Rider got wrecked by WWHulk.Thanos is on a way different level.

#47 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Stronger said:

@Matezoide2 said:

@Stronger said:

Round 1:Thanos stomps

Explain how Thanos can harm someone that is immune to anything that isnt magical,who was teared apart by WWH only to reform in a few seconds,pissed off,but unharmed. I will wait.

Normal Rider got wrecked by WWHulk.Thanos is on a way different level.

Yes,WWH utterly dominated the Rider in a physical fight (when the Rider initialy wanted to talk and later,drag him out of the city),that proves WWH is stronger than he is.
 
But you are completely ignoring that Hulk pounding Blaze was utterly useless,as he merely reformed in 2 seconds,completely unharmed with Zarathos unleashed and about to beat the crap out of Hulk (prety much confirmed by Doctor Strange) before realising he wasnt guilty and leaving peacefully.
 
Thats exactly what happens here,theres nothing Thanos can do that will keep Ghost-Rider down for more than 5 seconds,he can not win.
#48 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide2
@Stronger said:

@Matezoide2 said:

@Stronger said:

Round 1:Thanos stomps

Explain how Thanos can harm someone that is immune to anything that isnt magical,who was teared apart by WWH only to reform in a few seconds,pissed off,but unharmed. I will wait.

Normal Rider got wrecked by WWHulk.Thanos is on a way different level.

Yes,WWH utterly dominated the Rider in a physical fight (when the Rider initialy wanted to talk and later,drag him out of the city),that proves WWH is stronger than he is.
 
But you are completely ignoring that Hulk pounding Blaze was utterly useless,as he merely reformed in 2 seconds,completely unharmed with Zarathos unleashed and about to beat the crap out of Hulk (prety much confirmed by Doctor Strange) before realising he wasnt guilty and leaving peacefully.
 
Thats exactly what happens here,theres nothing Thanos can do that will keep Ghost-Rider down for more than 5 seconds,he can not win.
Exactly....a lot of ppl are ignorant of ghost rider. Jus cuz thanos have more physical strength, they ignore the fact that physical attacks are completely useless against the rider
#49 Edited by Man_of_Miracles (1561 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone is ignoring the fact that Thanos has training in the mystical arts as well as the Power Cosmic.

#50 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Man_of_Miracles said:

Everyone is ignoring the fact that Thanos has training in the mystical arts as well and the Power Cosmic.

I do not remember Thanos using the Power Cosmic to anything other than blasts,although physical transmutation could work in theory. (Then again,it would raise the question as to why none of the magic users he fought tried that) I do remember an instance where a witch was transmuting an entire city (people becoming monsters and other sick stuff),but GR appeared to be completely immune to her powers.
 
Any idea or instances when Thanos used magic offensively? Any idea how it compares to the likes of Dr.Strange? Because GR defeated him without that many problems. Although magic is the best way to handle Ghost-Rider,it is far from being his kryptonite.
 
For everyone in this thread,i appologize for sounding arrogant or angry at any point,it wasnt my intention.