This thread will never die. :-/
Ghost Rider vs Surtur
@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:
Ghost Rider is super duper overestimated.
Surtur megastomps.
And why is that?Because he is hard to kill?With Blaze megstomps but with Zarathos he gets penance stared.
@GhostRider2 said:
@Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper: almost everyone happy now?
You are the one who cant back up.
You haven't even posted me a single scan, let alone pointed me to a single instance in ANY of the continuities to back up your silly claims. You're not one to criticize anyone of lacking in doing such.
@GhostRider2 said:
Surtur stomps. I concede.
Concession accepted.
@GhostRider2 said:
You think you are smart but you are not read up on GR and Zarathos and learn how penance stare works.
I have read up on GR and know full well what Zarathos is capable of.
And they are less than sufficient.
I know how the Penance Stare works. It failed to affect Deadpool (with Thanos' influence), Zodiac, a few drug addicts, and an alien symbiote, NONE of which are even close to Surtur in power.
@GhostRider2 said:
Hahaha that is not going to stop Ghost Rider.
Blade used the Justiciar to turn Zarathos into stone.
Surtur with the TWILIGHT SWORD (the same weapon with only a fraction of its power could warp the entire Earth), is UNDOUBTEDLY turning Zarathos into ANYTHING he wants. Period.
If someone can show me enough proof that Surtur can kill GR while Zarathos is in control i will drop it but until then GR wins.I also know Surtur well so.....
@GhostRider2 said:
with Zarathos he gets penance stared.
Provide for us a single Penance Stare feat from Zarathos, please.
@GhostRider2 said:
If someone can show me enough proof that Surtur can kill GR while Zarathos is in control i will drop it but until then GR wins.I also know Surtur well so.....
Blade killed Zarathos with the Justiciar.
Surtur is doing the same with the Twilight Sword.
Deal with it.
@Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper said:
@GhostRider2 said:
Surtur stomps in your dream.
Stop editing my posts :)).
@GhostRider2 said:
@Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper said:
@GhostRider2 said:
Surtur stomps. I concede.
Stop editing my posts :)).
Make me. : )
Hmm....what does surtur have that can put a GR down? I guess surtur could BFR him...but that's about it. Without a holy weapon...I dnt see surtur doing enough damage to the rider to be considered life threatening
@ghost_rider1 said:
Hmm....what does surtur have that can put a GR down? I guess surtur could BFR him...but that's about it. Without a holy weapon...I dnt see surtur doing enough damage to the rider to be considered life threatening
Surtur could turn the Rider into stone with the Twilight Sword, nearly the same way Zarathos was turned into stone by the Justiciar.
@ghost_rider1 said:
Actually I take that back...surtur can't BFR ghost rider.
A full-powered Surtur (with his sword) has the potential to altar reality and rip inter-dimensional portals through space, none of which makes the battle look good for GR.
@killer_of_trolls: Demon + no soul = no stare
It's basically Zarathos vs Surtur , I am siding with Zarathos on this one , Surtur has no way to put him down.
@the_red_devil said:
It's basically Zarathos vs Surtur , I am siding with Zarathos on this one , Surtur has no way to put him down.
And what stops Surtur from BFR'ing Zarathos to the Sea of Eternal Night? And what exactly can Zarathos do to even hurt him? Hellfire doesn't have the feats to say that can burn someone who tanks an attack equal to the explosion of thousands of suns or also overcame Surtur's own Eternal Flames. Surtur is a Fire-Demon and member of the Lords of the Splinter-Realms, so shouldn't have something like a soul to burn or use the Penance Stare.
At best seems like a stalemate, really.
@asgardianbrony: You also might wanna take a look at this, lol.
@ghostrider2: Surtur would Stomp zarthos himself let alone GR. I like GR but he ain't beating a skyfather threat who can casually destroy galaxies and own every hell lord with ease
In regard to the Thor vs Ghost Rider debate happening Ghost Rider took on Thor, Doctor Strange, Scarlett Witch, Satana, Swamp Thing, Wolverine, Captain America, and others (while having penance stare like effects across the city) and was beating them until Rogue stole Zarathos from him at which point she immediately pleaded for him to take it back.
As for Surtur the Penance Stare is an obvious factor to consider which could very well work on him but also hellfire which although would likely have no effect as far as typical fire effects go given Surtur is a fire demon it should however perform its other function of burning the soul just fine. Don’t get me wrong Surtur is incredibly powerful but I do (or perhaps would like to) think it is in the realm of possibility for GR to beat Surtur although it isnt guranteed and the probability likely drops markedly if you give Surtur his Sword and the eternal flame. Were this to happen it would certainly be GR’s greatest feat to date.
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