GR stomps
Ghost Rider vs Superman
@gambit474: I see that you the only one that made a big deal out of it but im not going to be a asshole like you so im leaving this topic alone.
I accept your concession if you're resorting to name calling all because I proved you wrong. I'm not an asshole for knowing the material nor stating that it's pointless you for you bring up characters who aren't even involved in the bout. Don't get mad all because you can't back up what you say.
@eisenfauste If Superman had any way to accomplish that and since he doesn't..Yeah that's not happening
@kgb725 No. What happened was Zadkiel beat Blaze and Ketch down. Zadkiel couldn't kill them,which Blaze taunted him about because the power of Ghost Rider was even beyond him,so they kinda sat around until Roxxane came and told Blaze that the other riders were able to help..they just needed a leader. Zad got overwhelmed in the end
@gambit474: There's no point in arguing because a debate was already made and the thread got locked for being a mismatch in Spectre's favor. So what is your point?
@gambit474: There's no point in arguing because a debate was already made and the thread got locked for being a mismatch in Spectre's favor. So what is your point?
Using a thread from 4 years ago doesn't prove Spectre beats GR,especially when most of the posts are "Spectre wins" with no reasons at all. GR isn't the same character that he was 4-5 years ago and has had massive improvements done to his character but it's not a surprise that you wouldn't know that right? You can't even disprove me about it being a stalemate because you've made it clear that you obviously don't know anything about GR and are only speaking out of your bias for the characters you've mentioned. Yet again, this thread doesn't even involve the characters you brought up so the only person you need to be asking what the point is is yourself. This is Superman vs Ghost Rider. Not Ghost Rider vs *insert random DC character here*.
Superman KO's him.
You can't ko Zarathos.GR stomp.
@gambit474: I never replied to you in the first place and you the one wanking Ghost Rider's power. Even during COIE Spectre nearly beat Anti-Monitor who was destroying so many universes. If go based pn feats, Spectre would stomp GR. As for the topic, Its already clear that Supes loses. So why is im still here arguing with some sensitive idiot? Have a nice day.
@gambit474: Speaking of Ghost Rider http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/the-spectre-vs-ghost-rider-1551277/
@gambit474: I never replied to you in the first place and you the one wanking Ghost Rider's power. Even during COIE Spectre nearly beat Anti-Monitor who was destroying so many universes. If go based pn feats, Spectre would stomp GR. As for the topic, Its already clear that Supes loses. So why is im still here arguing with some sensitive idiot? Have a nice day.
Wanking his power? It's a freaking thread about him vs Superman..what do you expect people to be doing? Here you are again going on and on about Spectre when the thread isn't about him. The fact that you keep going off topic and calling me names is going to do you nothing other than getting in trouble with a mod. Showing threads of people saying "spectre stomps" without providing any reasons means nothing and just shows that you obviously can't form an opinion of your own if you have to rely on what others' say. Anyone can say X character can beat Y character. The difference is when people actually provide evidence and show that they actually know the characters instead of speaking out of their biased opinions. The fact that you have to resort to insults automatically defeated anything you have to say
@gambit474: You said that GR can beat Spectre. Spectre unbounded is multiversal (that alone speaks for itself). Spectre is Michael and Lucifer levels. Do NOT even think that GR stands an atom of a chance against them. I already stated that Superman loses this battle so stop whining. How about you justify to the whole Vine why GR would beat Spectre?
@gambit474: You said that GR can beat Spectre. Spectre unbounded is multiversal (that alone speaks for itself). Spectre is Michael and Lucifer levels. Do NOT even think that GR stands an atom of a chance against them. I already stated that Superman loses this battle so stop whining. How about you justify to the whole Vine why GR would beat Spectre?
I said stalemate bud..obviously you seem to purposely ignore that. "Michael and Lucifer levels"..Funny you mention Lucifer since GR has beaten him 666 times,just to name one occasion. GR had to be stopped from destroying the very fabric of reality when Alejandra almost killed Mephisto before Blaze stopped her. Blaze,Ketch,and the rest of the riders helped save Heaven from Zadkiel. GR has toppled the Avengers before on more than one occasion. I could go on and on..The only one who's wrong here is you in thinking that GR would get stomped. You already made it clear that you've never read GR so you are in NO place to say he stands no chance. How about you quit responding about a battle that isn't even relevant to the thread. The problem here is that you obviously can't handle being told you're wrong and can't provide any counter arguments other than relying on what others say. Lol whining..the guy who resorted to insults has no room to criticize me.
Ghost Rider wins, Superman can't kill him while Ghost Rider easily can choke him with the hellfire chains.
Gr wuld the long run Superman probably been in the short run
This would be a very sad because ghost rider usually deals with people that shoot him with Superman fights guys that try to invade the galaxies but now gr would win JR rarily has feats when he does those feats that he has a much better than Superman
@epictayman: are u stupid physical attacks doesn't harm the rider
Ghost Rider
@epictayman: are u stupid physical attacks doesn't harm the rider
I'd work on that grammar of yours before calling someone else stupid.
On a completely unrelated note, is Wenjun Chew back?
So you are going to take the grammar way? Really that's the best you can come up with? Wow
So you are going to take the grammar way? Really that's the best you can come up with? Wow
Man this post is old. Anyways, you called someone stupid yet your grammar was very poor. Ironic, no?
@mysticmedivh: Wenjun Chew isn't back to my knowledge. This was made when he wasn't banned.
Superman traps him in the phantom zone!
Blaze can jump realms.
@mysticmedivh: how in what way because I said "u"
Ghost Rider
@gambit474: Except he isn't talking about Lucifer from the Marvel universe.
That said GR.
Superman, superior strength, speed, versatility, and durability.
And what exactly is his strength going to do against Ghost Rider?
I don't see how superman can do any worse than the hulk who regularly uses brute strength to fight ghost Rider. Also Ghost Rider was blown to pieces by Turk and MR. X a street level team with a fake spider man called Next Wave with the help of Wolverine and beast. Though he did reform let's not act like he can't be put down. If ghost Rider couldn't be down he would never lose and he has lost a Fight or two. A loss is a loss I'm not gonna give him credit for being able to get pummeled recover just to get pummeled again. Doesn't matter how many times GR gets up, it doesn't change the fact that he is weaker and less durable than superman.
I don't see how superman can do any worse than the hulk who regularly uses brute strength to fight ghost Rider. Also Ghost Rider was blown to pieces by Turk and MR. X a street level team with a fake spider man called Next Wave with the help of Wolverine and beast. Though he did reform let's not act like he can't be put down. If ghost Rider couldn't be down he would never lose and he has lost a Fight or two. A loss is a loss I'm not gonna give him credit for being able to get pummeled recover just to get pummeled again. Doesn't matter how many times GR gets up, it doesn't change the fact that he is weaker and less durable than superman.
Still doesn't change the fact that he can soak up everything Superman can throw at him. As far as I'm concerned, Superman has no actual way of putting him down.
@mysticmedivh: so ghost Rider has never been put down for a minute? It's never happened before ever? We have read the same books, and I've seen GR struggle with venom whom he could barely handle. He's also struggled with blackout who's a 2 tonner at best , and got smacked around by the hulk. GR is not a character known for his physical stats, he is also not intangible he can be hit and superman will knock him into tomorrow every time he gets back up.
@postacrat: whenever Blaze gets KOd Zarathos takes over
@cgoodness: which equates to what exactly, Zarathos hasn't shown comparable physicals to Superman either. The only thing I'm getting out of this is superman is going to get infinite chances to knock this guy around.
@postacrat: give me a min, I'm cooking dinner, ill show you why superman loses with scans
@cgoodness: which equates to what exactly, Zarathos hasn't shown comparable physicals to Superman either. The only thing I'm getting out of this is superman is going to get infinite chances to knock this guy around.
GR doesn't have many strength feats (because its unneeded because of his powerset) but he did overpower Nightmare in his own realm with strength alone (btw this also shows the Penance Stare doesnt work on realm tiers plus as to prevent wanking)
Also as stated before Ghost Rider is immune to physical harm because of his healing factor
Heck he can function even with just being a head
But yes it is possible to KO the host, Hulk did, but that Zarathos just took over and made Hulk scream in pain with a Omnidirectional Blast
And just exactly how powerful is Zarathos?
Here Zarathos tanks a hit from Thor (whos striking feats are vastly superior Supermans) and then one shots him (supes is vulnerable to anything mystic so he would likely get one shotted as well).
Heres Zarathos defeating a half power Lucifer
The only thing Superman can do is use speed against GR, which can be countered with a Omnidirectional attacks
Can make it rain hellfire and has a omnidirectional Penance Stare, all of which are city wide
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