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#1  Edited By WenjunChew

Johnny Blaze version vs New 52 Superman

Ghost Rider also has penance stare and Zarathos is in control.

Both are in character. Battle takes place in a city with unrelated people around.

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If zaranthos is in control ghost rider stomps, he's enchanted therefor magical

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@hammer_of_j2: Can't Superman just avoid the magical attacks via super speed?

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@wenjunchew: Even assuming he did he couldnt hurt Zarathos

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@sophia89: Superman can't physically hurt Ghost Rider. I'll say stalemate

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@wenjunchew: Sorry but this thread has been done recently not too long ago

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/ghost-rider-vs-superman-700235/

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I feel like this been done before, same with the Juggernaut... Stalemate. For reasons.

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The Rider of Ghost.

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I don't really think Superman can really hurt GR, though Superman is also 2fast4blaze. But unless it's a stalemate, GR has a better chance of winning.

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Zarathos could possibly solo the entire JL

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@cgoodness: It's heavily out of character for Z to fight any of them.

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Does Blaze have any speed feats? Just wondering.

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@cgoodness: No lol, Dr.Fate and Zatanna together would be too much for him.

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@zhurong: you do realize that even SS-Strange couldn't stop him right?

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@cgoodness: Yea but I know someone that can...The Spectre!

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@zhurong: yes....he could defeat Zarathos

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@106me: not really, just bullet and missile dodging

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@cgoodness: What about Zarathos? Does he have any speed feats?

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Superman can't knock out Zarathos?

Is much control of Ghost Rider's body does Zarathos typically have?

If Zarathos only have simple control over Johnny Blaze's mind and body, Superman can knock out Ghost Rider via speed blitz because the mind is willing but the flesh is weak.

On the other hand, if Zarathos' control over Ghost Rider include infusing his body with additional powers, it would spell some difficulty for Superman.

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@106me: not really, but speed isnt a factor when the person hes fighting has no way to harm him

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Already been done. Zarathos sets the planet on fire. Then chases superman into space with his hell infused Spacecraft.

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@106me said:

Does Blaze have any speed feats? Just wondering.

He does on his bike. Blaze and Ketch were going around the world in mere seconds in Aaron's run. If any of you wish to know what GR is truly capable of..Here's a thread on here that features details.

Ghost Rider Powers and Abilities

Anyways hoo boy..this is going to be something..

@boringperson No it wouldn't be out of character for Zarathos if he deemed them guilty. GR punishes you for your sins..The only thing that matters is which sins he feels like punishing you for.

@zhurong Maybe..However Zarathos has been getting more and more powerful every time they use him. For all we know, GR could BFR him into Heaven and the army of GRs takes him down the way they did Zadkiel

@epictayman No he could not physically hurt GR. You can pound and pound on GR all you want..he'll just heal from it and all you'll do is piss him off. He's had his head blown off before and all it did was reform back

OK..now finally for the actual thread. Superman is fast yes but Blaze is capable of making hellfire explosions that look like a nuke went off. Not only that but he's also made it rain hellfire before from the sky. Superman may be fast but GR can cover a lot of ground. Hellfire affects the soul so unless Superman has some supernatural defense..He's going to be hurting if those flames make contact with him

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Superman would be better off using his speed to leave the battlefield because he has no chance of beating the ghost rider.

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@gambit474: He aont beating Spectre, I will tell you that now. Spectre is just below God and is nigh omnipotent.

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@zhurong said:

@gambit474: He aont beating Spectre, I will tell you that now. Spectre is just below God and is nigh omnipotent.

How about instead of stating your opinion you back it up with some facts bud. GR is the ultimate weapon of Heaven so in technicality he is "just below God" too. Spectre can't even kill GR because like they said in the end of Heavens on fire.."Only God can create Ghost Rider and only God can destroy one" or something along those lines. "Nigh omnipotent"..Yeah see the thing is Zarathos has been accused of the whole "limitless power" bit as well. You obviously don't know much about GR and seem to forget that Spectre is somewhat different now in New 52

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Yup... Zarathos completely one shot stomps Kal-El

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penance stare wont do anything because superman is inherently a nice guy

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Can he be KO'd if Zarathos is in control because if he can, Superman could pull it off.

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@gambit474: Most people that Ghostrider fights are at a disadvantage because only holy weapons can hurt him, correct? Something like that, if I remember right. If that is true, Spectre, as a holy character only limited by the Presence will, has the advantage that all his attacks would be considered holy and effective against him. Then, comparing Spectre's feats, he's more powerful than him. Assuming all of this is true - this is all based on hearsay - then Spectre should win.

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#41  Edited By Gambit474

@zhurong said:

@gambit474: Most people that Ghostrider fights are at a disadvantage because only holy weapons can hurt him, correct? Something like that, if I remember right. If that is true, Spectre, as a holy character only limited by the Presence will, has the advantage that all his attacks would be considered holy and effective against him. Then, comparing Spectre's feats, he's more powerful than him. Assuming all of this is true - this is all based on hearsay - then Spectre should win.

Holy weapons don't even hurt him anymore..they only temporarily stop him. Zadkiel who took over the throne of Heaven couldn't even stop Blaze and the other GRs. No they wouldn't be effective against him since GR is,as mentioned,the ultimate weapon of Heaven. Feats? Spectre got cut in half by that goblin looking dude and shooed away by Nekron in blackest night. He's not as great as you think. Spectre wouldn't "win" because there's nothing he can do to truly harm GR. It would be a stalemate at best and besides this is about GR vs Superman. Not the spectre. All you did was come in here and spout of so and so can beat GR when that has no relevance to the thread

@knightofzero being "good" doesn't matter anymore when it's in regards to the PS. They changed it to the books where it functions on punishing you for your sins. Being that the female GR threatened those two kids about their sins back in her run..Being "innocent" only matters if GR judges you so

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@gambit474: I thought God came back to take Heaven from Zadkiel because if I remember correctly the Riders were struggling ?

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@gambit474: I see that you the only one that made a big deal out of it but im not going to be a asshole like you so im leaving this topic alone.

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@zhurong: HA if Batman with a little bit of PIS could hurt Spectre why couldn't GR without PIS hurt Spectre??? LOGIC

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#45  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@justsomerandomkid: He didn't hurt the Spectre the bat kick scan is highly misinterpreted.

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#46  Edited By MAZAHS117

The Rider ftw

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Ghost Rider

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Ghost rider...eventually....

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@justsomerandomkid: He made Spectre bleed because Spectre stated that he wanted to make him feel better. He also stated that his host at the time was restraining him.