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#1 Edited by TheDrifter (26555 posts) - - Show Bio
Ghost Rider
Noh-Varr
#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider...with not too much trouble.

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#3 Posted by TheDrifter (26555 posts) - - Show Bio

BTW This is Johnny Blaze

#4 Edited by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"BTW This is Johnny Blaze"
Even worse...for Noh-Varr.
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#5 Posted by lordraiden (7007 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"BTW This is Johnny Blaze"
Even worse...for Noh-Varr."

Really??? Are we talking bout the same guy who declared war on earth and had the Illuminati take interest in his threat and look into it?
#6 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

Noh-Varr could last awhile, but he has nothing that would "finish" Ghost Rider unless he gets his tech.

#7 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah.Same guy,but there ain't sh!t he can do to him.

Unless Plex tells different.

#8 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Akira Overdrive said:
"Yeah.Same guy,but there ain't sh!t he can do to him.

Unless Plex tells different."
He doesn't really have Plex anymore though.
#9 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Akira Overdrive said:
"Yeah.Same guy,but there ain't sh!t he can do to him.

Unless Plex tells different."
He doesn't really have Plex anymore though."
Oh yeah,he lost all his crap...damn...

White Run might be his only option to run/fight then.
#10 Edited by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"BTW This is Johnny Blaze"
Even worse...for Noh-Varr."

Really??? Are we talking bout the same guy who declared war on earth and had the Illuminati take interest in his threat and look into it?"
What do you mean really? Ghost Rider beat the classic Avengers with Thor.He caught Mjolnir when it was thrown at him and hit Thor with it.He projects hellfire from his hands and eyes that burns the body and soul and don't get me started on the Penance Stare. and the Mystic Chain.
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#11 Posted by lordraiden (7007 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"lordraiden said:
"Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"BTW This is Johnny Blaze"
Even worse...for Noh-Varr."

Really??? Are we talking bout the same guy who declared war on earth and had the Illuminati take interest in his threat and look into it?"
What do you mean really? Ghost Rider beat the classic Avengers with Thor.He caught Mjolnir when it was thrown at him and hit Thor with it.He projects hellfire from his hands and eyes that burns the body and soul and don't get me started on the Penance Stare. and the Mystic Chain."

Yeah, when was that? thirty odd years ago? comics have come along way since then, so don't give me some fight as a reference that took place so many years ago that bears little releveance here!
#12 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Vance Astro said:
"lordraiden said:
"Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"BTW This is Johnny Blaze"
Even worse...for Noh-Varr."

Really??? Are we talking bout the same guy who declared war on earth and had the Illuminati take interest in his threat and look into it?"
What do you mean really? Ghost Rider beat the classic Avengers with Thor.He caught Mjolnir when it was thrown at him and hit Thor with it.He projects hellfire from his hands and eyes that burns the body and soul and don't get me started on the Penance Stare. and the Mystic Chain."

Yeah, when was that? thirty odd years ago? comics have come along way since then, so don't give me some fight as a reference that took place so many years ago that bears little releveance here!"
Why do I bother and respond to you?
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#13 Posted by Adam Warlock (723 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as I'm concerned Johnny Blaze was never retconned meaning EVERYTHING that EVER happened is still legit.

#14 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"As far as I'm concerned Johnny Blaze was never retconned meaning EVERYTHING that EVER happened is still legit."
I could mention recent things Blaze did but beating the Avengers was the best feat I seen from him.
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#15 Posted by TheDrifter (26555 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"As far as I'm concerned Johnny Blaze was never retconned meaning EVERYTHING that EVER happened is still legit."
He was'nt retconned at all. They just revealed him to be something he thought he was the opposite of.....

#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

GR wins easily.

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#17 Posted by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
Ghost Rider should win here. 
#18 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Akira Overdrive said:
"Nobody said:
"Akira Overdrive said:
"Yeah.Same guy,but there ain't sh!t he can do to him.

Unless Plex tells different."
He doesn't really have Plex anymore though."
Oh yeah,he lost all his crap...damn...

White Run might be his only option to run/fight then."
Well in the Who Do You Trust? issue

Spolilers.

He was making a computerized version of Plex in the Cube computer. But I'm not sure if it is as effective as the real Plex and I'm not sure he has access to it right now with the skrull invasion.
#19 Posted by Adam Warlock (723 posts) - - Show Bio

well he could be a skrull himself so...

#20 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"well he could be a skrull himself so..."
Could be, but as of now he doesn't think he is.
#21 Posted by Adam Warlock (723 posts) - - Show Bio

... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?

#22 Posted by TheDrifter (26555 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
 he doesn't think he is."
LOL
#23 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?"
All of them know they are they just don't have personal thoughts.
#24 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?"
Thats my point. He may be a skrull but he thinks like Noh-Var and has his abilities.
#25 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Adam Warlock said:
"... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?"
Thats my point. He may be a skrull but he thinks like Noh-Var and has his abilities."
Noh-Varr isn't a skrull.
#26 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

By the way, would his spit work on Ghost Rider?

#27 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"By the way, would his spit work on Ghost Rider?"
Most likely it wouldn't.
#28 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"Adam Warlock said:
"... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?"
Thats my point. He may be a skrull but he thinks like Noh-Var and has his abilities."
Noh-Varr isn't a skrull."
Do you know that for sure? Cause they haven't revealed that he isn't, so until that happens can you rule him out?
#29 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"Adam Warlock said:
"... which of the skrulls you seen really thought they're a skrull !?"
Thats my point. He may be a skrull but he thinks like Noh-Var and has his abilities."
Noh-Varr isn't a skrull."
Do you know that for sure? Cause they haven't revealed that he isn't, so until that happens can you rule him out?"
Yea I know that for certain.
#30 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

How?

#31 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"How?"
Skrulls don't have personal agenda.
#32 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"How?"
Skrulls don't have personal agenda."
They don't? Captain Marvel is a skrull and he does. What about all those skrulls that came off that ship?  Hulkling? Xavin?Jazinda? Lyja?
#33 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"How?"
Skrulls don't have personal agenda."
They don't? Captain Marvel is a skrull and he does. What about all those skrulls that came off that ship?  Hulkling? Xavin?Jazinda? Lyja?"
Captain Marvel's agenda was for the good of the skrulls.Hulkling,Xavin,Jazinda,and Lyja don't count..and neither does Crusader if you haven't found out he's the new skrull in ther Initiative that is on the human side.
#34 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

Why don't they count? And Captain Marvel's agenda is for the good of earth.

#35 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Woman,Elektra,Pym,etc...everything they did was for the good of the Invasion or to ensure they weren't caught.

#36 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Why don't they count? And Captain Marvel's agenda is for the good of earth."
You know what I mean about Captain Marvel lol.....
They don't count because..for one Hulkling is only half skrull,and the others are so called good skrulls.Any skrull involved in helping the skrulls win this invasion don't have personal thoughts or feelings.
#37 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"Why don't they count? And Captain Marvel's agenda is for the good of earth."
You know what I mean about Captain Marvel lol.....
They don't count because..for one Hulkling is only half skrull,and the others are so called good skrulls.Any skrull involved in helping the skrulls win this invasion don't have personal thoughts or feelings.
"
Look at the skrulls that got of the ship. They believe they are who the claim they are. They are not their to invaded Earth, but just distract the heroes from the real problem. Noh-Varr could be like them, and Captain Marvel. Just cause he doesn't know about the Secret Invasion or that he is a skrull, doesn't mean he couldn't be one.
#38 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"Why don't they count? And Captain Marvel's agenda is for the good of earth."
You know what I mean about Captain Marvel lol.....
They don't count because..for one Hulkling is only half skrull,and the others are so called good skrulls.Any skrull involved in helping the skrulls win this invasion don't have personal thoughts or feelings.
"
Look at the skrulls that got of the ship. They believe they are who the claim they are. They are not their to invaded Earth, but just distract the heroes from the real problem. Noh-Varr could be like them, and Captain Marvel. Just cause he doesn't know about the Secret Invasion or that he is a skrull, doesn't mean he couldn't be one."
Ok..but what your not understanding is that the skrulls don't have what I just said...They don't have personal agendas.They were sent to Earth for a reason...just because they might actually believe they are earth's heroes doesn't mean they have what the real heroes have.
Noh-Varr is not like them because the skrulls would have gain nothing by taking him...he doesn't have any affiliation with anyone and spent most of his time locked up.

What I mean is..you see how Iron Man was crying over the whole Captain America thing...when no one was around? That means he really feels that about Steve.Nobody who has been revealed has a skrull has thier own current ongoing or has a feeling square that tells you what the hero is feeling during the comic.It usually has their logo in it.When Noh-Varr escaped he left like he had something to do...the odds that the skrulls took all of the Kree out for the invasion is unlikely.
#39 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

@Load: All of the skrulls that have been replaced have real human emotions because they believe they are human(or whatever it is they are replacing). Iron Man may be a skrull, we don't know that, but he is having real human emotion cause he believes himself to be human. What about Invisible Woman? We see her thought bubbles and she ended up being a skrull?Or Captain Marvel? "Noh-Varr also doesn't have an ongoing series which doesn't work with your "Nobody who has been revealed as a skrull has their own ongoing"

#40 Edited by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"@Load: All of the skrulls that have been replaced have real human emotions because they believe they are human(or whatever it is they are replacing). Iron Man may be a skrull, we don't know that, but he is having real human emotion cause he believes himself to be human. What about Invisible Woman? We see her thought bubbles and she ended up being a skrull?Or Captain Marvel? "Noh-Varr also doesn't have an ongoing series which doesn't work with your "Nobody who has been revealed as a skrull has their own ongoing""
Name one skrull revealed that had their own on-going just before they were revealed

Name one person who was revealed as a skrull who showed emotion when no one was around.

I wasn't talkin about thought bubbles.I don't know what to call them but some characters have these retangular displays that tells you from the characters POV how they feel..with their logo in it.

Noh-Varr does however fit the description I set of someone who would be of no use because he has no affiliation and he hasn't been very active.He's not powerful enough to be  a stand alone guy.Think about it...hiow many skrulls were revealed that weren't on a team?
#41 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"@Load: All of the skrulls that have been replaced have real human emotions because they believe they are human(or whatever it is they are replacing). Iron Man may be a skrull, we don't know that, but he is having real human emotion cause he believes himself to be human. What about Invisible Woman? We see her thought bubbles and she ended up being a skrull?Or Captain Marvel? "Noh-Varr also doesn't have an ongoing series which doesn't work with your "Nobody who has been revealed as a skrull has their own ongoing""
Name one skrull revealed that had their own on-going just before they were revealed

Name one person who was revealed as a skrull who showed emotion when no one was around.

I wasn't talkin about thought bubbles.I don't know what to call them but some characters have these retangular displays that tells you from the characters POV how they feel..with their logo in it.

Noh-Varr does however fit the description I set of someone who would be of no use because he has no affiliation and he hasn't been very active.He's not powerful enough to be  a stand alone guy.Think about it...hiow many skrulls were revealed that weren't on a team?"
I didn't say there was, I said that excuse doesn't work for Noh-Varr cause he doesn't have one.

Ones that have been revealed so far? Captain Marvel and Captain America.

I know what you mean and they are the same as thought bubbles.

He does fit that description but that doesn't mean he wasn't replaced. They have replaced others who are of no use.
#42 Posted by Adam Warlock (723 posts) - - Show Bio

Mar-Vell

#43 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Loaded Revolver said:
"Nobody said:
"@Load: All of the skrulls that have been replaced have real human emotions because they believe they are human(or whatever it is they are replacing). Iron Man may be a skrull, we don't know that, but he is having real human emotion cause he believes himself to be human. What about Invisible Woman? We see her thought bubbles and she ended up being a skrull?Or Captain Marvel? "Noh-Varr also doesn't have an ongoing series which doesn't work with your "Nobody who has been revealed as a skrull has their own ongoing""
Name one skrull revealed that had their own on-going just before they were revealed

Name one person who was revealed as a skrull who showed emotion when no one was around.

I wasn't talkin about thought bubbles.I don't know what to call them but some characters have these retangular displays that tells you from the characters POV how they feel..with their logo in it.

Noh-Varr does however fit the description I set of someone who would be of no use because he has no affiliation and he hasn't been very active.He's not powerful enough to be  a stand alone guy.Think about it...hiow many skrulls were revealed that weren't on a team?"
I didn't say there was, I said that excuse doesn't work for Noh-Varr cause he doesn't have one.

Ones that have been revealed so far? Captain Marvel and Captain America.

I know what you mean and they are the same as thought bubbles.

He does fit that description but that doesn't mean he wasn't replaced. They have replaced others who are of no use."
Who did they replace that wasn't useful?
#44 Posted by Adam Warlock (723 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra

#45 Posted by Loaded Revolver (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Adam Warlock said:
"Elektra"
    She was very useful..she got owned by Echo..but that wasn't part of the plan...she had affiliation.
#46 Posted by hydrabob (14977 posts) - - Show Bio

this is much better, Noh-Varr with his gear could put a urt on Ghost rider and his White Run would help him learn about the Penance Stare
I give it to Noh-Varr in a good fight

#47 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@hydrabob said:
"this is much better, Noh-Varr with his gear could put a urt on Ghost rider and his White Run would help him learn about the Penance Stare I give it to Noh-Varr in a good fight "

In what way can Noh-Varr hurt the Ghost RIder?
#48 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

*cough*
#49 Posted by karrob (4279 posts) - - Show Bio

GR

#50 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

it would be a cool battle but I would have to go with the Ghost Rider.