Ghost Rider vs Carnage and Venom.

Ghost Rider (Daniel Ketch) vs Carnage (Kasady) and Venom (Eddie Brock)

Rules:

No P stare

No bfr

Morals on

No Zarathos

No prep

Battle is to end in KO or submission.

Battle takes place in a boat dock.

This makes me think, has Ghost Rider ever tried to punish / sought revenge upon Carnage since he's a murderer and stuff?

@hatemalingsia: He did fight Venom once.

Ghost Rider in a mismatch. Neither Carnage nor Venom can damage him.

@pokeysteve: Why?

Wish I knew more about GR. I love the symbiotes

@fernandeztimothygian:

The penance stare doesn't work on symbiotes. Don't know why you disallowed it.

@fernandeztimothygian: GRs are typically only vulnerable to divine weaponry. I don't believe either of those symbiotes are fireproof either. Ketch just roasts them.

@serpinethegreen: I thought it only didn't work on Venom.

@pokeysteve: GR is a 4 tonner I believe and Carnage and Venom combined can lift above 100 tons.

I know GR isn't as affected by physical hits but they might find another way.

And the fire thing. That's why I placed the fight in a boat dock.

Btw, didn't Venom beat GR in this comic? https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/732647.jpg

@fernandeztimothygian:

It doesn't work on symbiotes, those without a soul, and the blind.

@serpinethegreen: How about demons and ghosts?

Anyways. Who would win?

Unless one of them goes and has a priest bless a knife or something, they aren't damaging him.

He can still use his fire on a boat dock.

GR tried to Penance Stare Venom and there was major feedback. The PS didn't work. GR was either down for a bit or actually KOed. I can't remember. They were fighting pretty evenly before that.

Hellfire easily takes them out.

Pairings: Proletariat

Ghost Rider is strong, but the teaming up of the symbiotes offers interesting stories about muscular fun. We've seen offbeat pairings before. Spider-Man and Batman Vol 1 1 explores the two super-heroes teaming up to tackle the Joker and Carnage in a contest involving brain control and body control. It's an enticing read, and I think it could add fuel to the notion that Ghost Rider's seeming superiority could nevertheless give rise to an interesting dockside confrontation.

Spider-Man and Batman Vol 1 1 (Marvel Wikia)

He destroys them.

Beata

Ghost Rider is far above the 4 ton range.

Ghost Rider wins handily. They can't damage him.

@heirtothekingdom: Is that Ketch though? I don't recognize the scan.

GR still stomps.

I'm actually not to sure, I remember Cadence using it in the past. Though, I have always believed Johnny and Ketch to be similar in terms of physical strength.

It doesn't make a ton of sense that their strength levels would be much different but we can't assume. Ketch doesn't have that many feats that I know of.

Nobody here is going to post Punisher stomping Johnny Blaze in Thunderbolts without help?

@serpinethegreen: it did work on Venom thou, just not how Danny expected, and has it ever failed on a blind person before?

@heirtothekingdom: that's zarathos, :p

Speaking of which I find it funny op didn't allow Zarathos, which is Johnny's "thing" so Danny just goes Nobel Kale and murders all of Spider-man's rouge

@agentghostrider: Ah, I see. Makes sense why I haven't seen other feats of that level.

You're right.

@heirtothekingdom:

That was just once. Most of the time GR isn't that strong.

@fernandeztimothygian: Had a feeling.

Mismatch.

Carnage is a 90 toner now i believe..Spiderman Venom and Carnage got upgraded a while back.

@mr-luxcipher: You do know that GR fought Venom in the comics right? And it wasn't a stomp slaughter ether.

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