#1 Edited by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

This is 100% Bloodlusted, Morals OFF, Zarathos in control Ghost Rider

Amazo has the power of Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batman(skills), Martian Manhunter, Firestorm, and Metamorpho (All Pre-52)

No BFR.

Fight takes place in the desert.

Who wins and Why?

#2 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2658 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll take the Rider. He can't be full destroyed and Amazo can't BFR him, eventually I see Amazo going down

#3 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

No BFR? Amazo loses badly. He cant KO zarathos at all and zarathos can sure as hell break him.

#4 Edited by joshuagamer (634 posts) - - Show Bio

this would be an intresting fight if you let amazo put his best foot forward (e.g let him have the abilities of superman, batman, wonderwoman, red tornado, red arrow, black lightning, zatanna, green lantern, vixen, hawkgirl, and firestorm), but you watered down his power arsenal considerably. Amazo still crushes though, due to the fact that amazo is soulless. If amazo did have a soul, ghost rider would have no problem taking him out.

#5 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshuagamer: So Amazo crushes Zarathos eh.... how exactly? GR is immune to damage and immortal you know.... so what does Amazo do that win? What?

#6 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
GR eats Nitroglycerin.
Dr. Strange best shot. Nothing.
WWH best shots... nothing.
Reforms his head.

All Examples of Zarathos cannot be KO or Killed by anything other than Magical Means or Skyfather/Hellord power.

#7 Posted by AssertingValor (5382 posts) - - Show Bio

GR

#8 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, switching up Amazo'spower and editing the OP

#9 Edited by Dextersinister (5795 posts) - - Show Bio

This is just like the WW fight, pure guess work on what the effects the lasso will have on him so who knows and without a soul I don't think GR should be capable of taking Amazo down.

Just saw the changes, GR has no chance of harming Amazo, having the knowledge and capabilities of Captain Marvel could possibly give him the ability to banish or restrain him indefinitely.

#10 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

This is just like the WW fight, pure guess work on what the effects the lasso will have on him so who knows and without a soul I don't think GR should be capable of taking Amazo down.

Although I didnt post in that thread I did read it and from what I read I dont think the Lasso would do anything to GR except well act like a very strong rope. I dont think it would kill him outright just because hes from a separate universe which has its own set of rules.

#11 Posted by XiiX (7468 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

This is just like the WW fight, pure guess work on what the effects the lasso will have on him so who knows and without a soul I don't think GR should be capable of taking Amazo down.

#12 Posted by joshuagamer (634 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: he could conceivably transmute gr into flower pedals

#13 Posted by Dextersinister (5795 posts) - - Show Bio

@RingSlinger said:

@Dextersinister said:

This is just like the WW fight, pure guess work on what the effects the lasso will have on him so who knows and without a soul I don't think GR should be capable of taking Amazo down.

Although I didnt post in that thread I did read it and from what I read I dont think the Lasso would do anything to GR except well act like a very strong rope. I dont think it would kill him outright just because hes from a separate universe which has its own set of rules.

The lasso has very good showings against demonic creatures but I won't say that gaurantee's it will work against GR, just like it's effects on possessed, demon's and evil spirits the results are completely random and up to the writer.

#14 Posted by termiteone4ever (6985 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazo for sure .

#15 Posted by Blackice709 (303 posts) - - Show Bio

GR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#16 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2853 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Amazo for sure .

#17 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazo is an android he doesn't have a soul to burn. And he is much stronger.

#18 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazo would destroy Zarathos I dont think he needs all those powers just the main JLA members becase his intellect surpasses even Batman's as was evident when he created Kid Amazo who was stronger than the whole JLA too, Amazo can very well throw him into the heart of the sun or a black hole so no reformation for GR.

#19 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio
@IZZR
Amazo would destroy Zarathos I dont think he needs all those powers just the main JLA members becase his intellect surpasses even Batman's as was evident when he created Kid Amazo who was stronger than the whole JLA too, Amazo can very well throw him into the heart of the sun or a black hole so no reformation for GR.
He not gonna BFR GR. He can teleport back to earth. Being intelligent doest beat the rider. Amazo best bet is to leave cuz he can't BFR him, he can't kill him, he can't KO him. Hell....he have no way to incapacitate him that I can think of. Eventually amazo will lose.
#20 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio
@icysloth

Amazo is an android he doesn't have a soul to burn. And he is much stronger.

He doesn't need a soul for ghost rider to beat him. And zarathos strength have never been recorded but he have picked up things that weigh over 100 tons.
#21 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

most definitely ghost rider here. Ghost rider ha many ways of winning here. the battlefield is more suited for ghost rider.

i would give amazo credit for all the powers he has but the fact is he is an all in one, which is an easy target for ghost rider, now if it was ghost rider versus all the justice league they would use team work to take him down in a well fought battle.

ghost rider wins here.

#22 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2658 posts) - - Show Bio

Even with the op edited and added powers, I still think Ghosty wins the majority....but I don't think Penance Stare with effect Amazo either...this would probably be a long drawn out fight until Amazo is eventually beaten.

#23 Edited by Dextersinister (5795 posts) - - Show Bio

Gr has no ability that is capable of harming Amazo, a nuke wouldn't even bother him with this amount of power. Amazo has powerful mystical powers from Marvel that may be capable of dealing with GR.

#24 Posted by Nefarious (18799 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazo wins, very easily.

#25 Posted by termiteone4ever (6985 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you know guys know Amazo power of copy also copies magic and even the power to control time .

#26 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

Amazo would destroy Zarathos I dont think he needs all those powers just the main JLA members becase his intellect surpasses even Batman's as was evident when he created Kid Amazo who was stronger than the whole JLA too, Amazo can very well throw him into the heart of the sun or a black hole so no reformation for GR.

Yeah cause its not like impossible to destroy a Spirit of Vengance or anything :/ You have no proff he can be destroyed that way as Mephisto cant even destroy the Spirit in his own realm.

Also Hellfire Angel Soul > to Star.....

Not to mention GR can travel Dimensions. He easily can switch to Hell and back to Earth as well Heaven to Earth given enough power.

However now the OP change and Amazo has Transmutaion Powers (Again NO Evidence it will work on Zarathos) he might have a shot of putting him down.

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Do you know guys know Amazo power of copy also copies magic and even the power to control time .

Well if this is true then Amazo wins.

#28 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

also bfr is not allowed, please read the op people

#29 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazo via speed blitz. He has many other methods to win though.

#30 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

and amazo is not allowed to copy any additional power

#31 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm inclined to say Amazo...the extent of Ghost Riders powers under Zarathos were hinted at and mostly implied with Dr Stranges comment to Stark....however as the scans above indicate...as alwayss The Rider is traditionally difficult to harm. In terms of feats, Amazo is extremely impressive. I lean toward Amazo on the strength of feats

#32 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#33 Posted by terry2012 (4813 posts) - - Show Bio

If this were the cartoon Amazo from the justice league unlimited he wins no doubt. But since it not I don't know. I heard good views of from all of the people in here. So I'm 50/50.

#34 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.