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#1 Posted by NeonGameWave (9212 posts) - - Show Bio
Ghost Rider vs. Doctor Strange by Mark Texeira and Javier Saltares

Both are at their strongest

The Ghost Rider is Johnny Blaze

Morals off

No prep

Who wins?

#2 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

Penance stare :3

#3 Posted by TheCowman (461 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, full power Ghost Rider is pretty scary stuff. I think he might take this.

#4 Posted by JediXMan (31594 posts) - - Show Bio

Penance stare should destroy Alucard. The movie is the best example I have: Alucard has countless souls in him, all or most of whom have done terrible things. It would be the same result as in the movie.

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#5 Posted by BlackWind (7408 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't soul burning hellfire be something horrible for Alucard to get hit with?

#6 Posted by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

Alucard at his strongest cant die because of cat ear duded.

#7 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordVulcan: Neither can Zarathos or Nobel Kale being Gods Angels Vengeance.

#8 Posted by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: sooo its a Draw?

#9 Posted by *Void* (870 posts) - - Show Bio

Penance Stare and Hell Fire for the win.

#10 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordVulcan: I seen Alucard KO before for long Minuets. A Penance Stare or Soul Burning Hellfire might KO him for a Victory.

#11 Posted by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: its possible. do you have any ghost rider penance stare or hellfire feats? i now very little of ghost rider and what those attacks can do.

#12 Posted by SpideyPresence (1906 posts) - - Show Bio

All i know is..... this would be a badass fight

#13 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

alucard.

#14 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordVulcan said:

@CadenceV2: its possible. do you have any ghost rider penance stare or hellfire feats? i now very little of ghost rider and what those attacks can do.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/cav-ghost-rider-cadencev2-vs-beta-ray-bill-floopay/719398/?

My Respect Thread :)

In this Debate I have shown Ghost Rider beating Null the Living Void (Gave the Defenders mad trouble), Nightmare (in his own Realm), Blackheart (Many times), Azmodeus (Hell Lord right under Mephisto in Power), and a Half Powered Lucifer with ease.

I also show the Penance Stare working on a Angel, a Demon, Dr. Strange (not depowered yet), and Avergae Joe Schmoes.

#15 Posted by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: well that is something else.. Draw or ghost rider takes alucard down.

#16 Posted by Count Bleck (772 posts) - - Show Bio

Alucard is the kind of thing Ghost Rider was designed to stomp. Either his hellfire or his penance stare should auto-win this battle for Blaze.

#17 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

GR

#18 Posted by Simon_the_digger (3563 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider wins

#19 Posted by GhostRider2 (3686 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

#20 Posted by nU_Kovak (127 posts) - - Show Bio

The Rider should take this.

#21 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (901 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpideyPresence said:

All i know is..... this would be a badass fight

This.

@GhostRider2 said:

Ghost Rider.

And this.

#22 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7045 posts) - - Show Bio

All Ghost Rider would need to do is look at Alucard.

#23 Posted by Laurcus (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't Alucard choose to not have a physical body to counter Ghost Rider's hellfire and penance stare? I really don't think Ghost Rider is beating a guy that's omnipresent and immortal. Schrodinger's powers are kind of OP like that.

#24 Posted by Mirabel (1087 posts) - - Show Bio

Alucard would get stomped on by most of GR's rogue's gallery, and it's inarguable that since he has two skyfathers in him, Blaze has vastly more raw power.

#25 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

@Laurcus said:

Can't Alucard choose to not have a physical body to counter Ghost Rider's hellfire and penance stare? I really don't think Ghost Rider is beating a guy that's omnipresent and immortal. Schrodinger's powers are kind of OP like that.

O_O

phasing counters eye contact?

#26 Posted by Laurcus (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

@RumbleMan_Exe said:

@Laurcus said:

Can't Alucard choose to not have a physical body to counter Ghost Rider's hellfire and penance stare? I really don't think Ghost Rider is beating a guy that's omnipresent and immortal. Schrodinger's powers are kind of OP like that.

O_O

phasing counters eye contact?

I don't see how omnipresence wouldn't. The whole everywhere and nowhere thing should make it pretty easy for Alucard to avoid eye contact.

#27 Edited by RumbleMan_Exe (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

@Laurcus: don't forget the mechanism for schrodinger's power to work, it can only 'live' if it is aware of itself (why alucard go 'poof' when schrodinger slit his throat and fused himself with alucard) and when the stare happens he is screwed.

alucard is cool guy but if ya read more anime/manga there are plenty of stronger vamps out there

#28 Posted by Jodokon (122 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider can PS Alucard and I don't see anything what Alucard can do to Ghost Rider.

So Ghost Rider.

#29 Posted by monarch_prime (420 posts) - - Show Bio

A full power ghost rider,alucard has no chance.

#30 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider

#31 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Laurcus: I wouldn't call Alucard Omnipotent at all. He never shown anything of a Skyfather level power wise, dont know the Future at all, and ontop of this admits mutiple times he can only be killed by a Human.

None of that is Man of Miracles, TOAA, or Presence Omnipotent.

Alucard full power is more in line with Classic Thor level or maybe First Age of Spawn Level.

#32 Posted by D3athstroke (4275 posts) - - Show Bio

GR stomps this

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#33 Posted by Count Bleck (772 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm...a guy with some admittedly cool powers but would also admittedly lose to G.O.R.T in a zoot suit vs a biker out of hell with two skyfather level entities hitchiking in his body...yeah Blaze *#@!stomps.

#34 Posted by logy5000 (6384 posts) - - Show Bio

Penance stare, Hellfire, & Chains will jack up Alucard.

#35 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@LordVulcan: Neither can Zarathos or Nobel Kale being Gods Angels Vengeance.

Assuming this is Pre-Schroedinger Alucard, he could potentially die.

That being said, I'm thinking the Penance Stare has little to no chance of actually harming him, and I do honestly believe this would be a good fight.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#36 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: Iwas wondering when you find this thread :)

#37 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7045 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't Ghost Rider penance stare just fuck up Alucard really bad? I'm reminded of the first Ghost Rider movie where Blackheart was affected after absorbing all those souls. Alucard has a lot of souls in him :/

#38 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider whips Alucard like a child with his chain.

#39 Posted by jerfro23 (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost rider penace stare takes this

#40 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@jerfro23 said:

Ghost rider penace stare takes this

@UltimateHero0406 said:

Ghost Rider whips Alucard like a child with his chain.

How? Alucard is something reminiscent of a Hell Lord, and really doesn't feel any remorse over what he's done. He's almost the definition of what the Penance Stare doesn't work on. And under the event it does work on him, he'd probably enjoy it.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#41 Edited by pern (508 posts) - - Show Bio

@omgomgwtfwtf: It's different the way Hellsing works. In the Ghost Rider movie, all of those souls combined to form a single entity. However, that is not the case with Alucard. For Alucard, it's more like each time he loses a soul, a new one takes his place. So Ghost Rider would PS his soul, and a new one would just take its place. Assuming PS would even work in the first place because Alucard enjoys being a monster and enjoys the suffering he caused on to other people. He's just like Blackheart, the PS would only empower him rather than weaken him. Hellfire wouldn't do much either because Alucard's true form is just a shadow with millions of eyes. Plus Alucard could swarm GR with Level 0 or devour him with Baskerville.

#42 Posted by Ghetsis (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@pern said:

@omgomgwtfwtf: It's different the way Hellsing works. In the Ghost Rider movie, all of those souls combined to form a single entity. However, that is not the case with Alucard. For Alucard, it's more like each time he loses a soul, a new one takes his place. So Ghost Rider would PS his soul, and a new one would just take its place. Assuming PS would even work in the first place because Alucard enjoys being a monster and enjoys the suffering he caused on to other people. He's just like Blackheart, the PS would only empower him rather than weaken him. Hellfire wouldn't do much either because Alucard's true form is just a shadow with millions of eyes. Plus Alucard could swarm GR with Level 0 or devour him with Baskerville.

If Walter can slash up Baskerville with his wires then GR can b*tchslap it with a chain easily. Also Hellfire >shadow because those eyes are actually his many souls and what does Hellfire burn? Oh right, it burns SOULS. Also GR tanked a punch from WWB Hulk, Alucard has nothing on that level. Level 0? Its going to be like Anderson sizzling all those souls again except GR does it to a quicker degree with his hellfire. Alucard is a weak glass cannon that has nothing on GR. GR can kill him off permanently with hellfire.

#43 Posted by flashback0180 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

Ps doesnt work if the character has more than 2 eyes, Alucard is immune

#44 Posted by NotATreeABush (2428 posts) - - Show Bio

Blaze wins with easy

#45 Edited by HarlequinOfHearts (49 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Ghost Rider would just take it. But I had to share the picture...

#46 Posted by Marvel_is_Best (214 posts) - - Show Bio

ghost rider

#47 Posted by Mee09 (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

The Ghost Rider stomps

#48 Posted by God_of_Batman (1530 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm failing to see what GR could do to Alucard. So I'm thinking stalemate.

#49 Posted by Mee09 (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_of_batman: Hellfire? Penance stare? Ghost Rider is designed to defeat characters like Alucard. Alucard cannot even hurt Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider is dragging Alucard to Hell.

#50 Edited by those_eyes (8862 posts) - - Show Bio

Ps doesnt work if the character has more than 2 eyes, Alucard is immune

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