Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze) vs Ghost Rider (Danny Ketch)

A battle between the brothers..Who would really win between these two? Blaze vs Ketch,no prep

Round 1 Blaze and Ketch in control of their riders

Round 2 Zarathos and Kale in control of the riders

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@cadencev2 this is right up your alley

This is pointless. They are dead even. It can swing either way depending how much effort one like to win.

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Blaze lost because he did not want to fight anyway. Ketch also had the power of many Spirits of vengeance at this point, however none of the Spirit was Nobel Kale who is by far equal to Zarathos in feats.

Either way they both are Immortal to the other, and only by Blaze giving up due to depression allowed one to beat the other.

Actually the rider's are immortal..Not the hosts themselves. You can kill a host,just not the spirit

As the fight I showed, nothing the other rider did affected the other. Period. Also the host can only be killed by insane Magic or Holy weapons when Spirit of Vengeance take over.

im giving johnny the edge due to experience.... if neither has a super power boost

@cadencev2 said:

This is pointless. They are dead even. It can swing either way depending how much effort one like to win.

Gallery

Blaze lost because he did not want to fight anyway. Ketch also had the power of many Spirits of vengeance at this point, however none of the Spirit was Nobel Kale who is by far equal to Zarathos in feats.

Either way they both are Immortal to the other, and only by Blaze giving up due to depression allowed one to beat the other.

I was under the impression that the last version (of Johnny Blaze) Ghost Rider's hellfire burned flesh and soul? Any truth to that?

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lol it they weren't being affected then it wouldn't have paused Ketch when Blaze nuked him. Also fights between Vengeance and Ketch showed that hellfire and chains can hurt one another

So if I'm correct...

Blaze infused with Zarathos Rider > Ketch infused with Noble Kale Rider > Ketch infused with hundreds of Riders

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Blaze should win

Still could go either way. Nobel Kale in the 90s overpowered Zarathos attempts to imprison kale within zarathos own soul. They are too evenly match.

I would go Blaze because it would appear when they’re this close power wise it would come down to experience and plain preference.

@sirfizzwhizz: if you had to bet on one of them?

@supermanwithatan01: Blaze

That’s what I figured.

most of the impressive, defeating hell lords in their dimension feats, and what they're both capable of seems to be from Ketch though right? or Alejandra (spelling?) unleashing Zarathos' true power. But I'm not sure what that was about.

@supermanwithatan01:

Ketch beat Nightmare and Blackheart in their realms. Blaze beat Dr Strange in several fights, Asmodeus, and Mephisto their realms. So both beat charcaters in their realms but beating Strange several times is what puts Zarathos over Kale.

thats good info! I appreciate it. Does Zarathos have any weakness? and where was he when Frank Castle became the Ghost Rider and fought Thanos? I felt like he should have handled him like he did initially, then he stated he had the time gem. :-/

@supermanwithatan01: Zarathos and Punisher are not related. I was told Punisher was made Ghost Rider by Mephisto, same as Vengeance.

As for weakness, Holy weapons, Soul Separation weapons, and really powerful Magic.

@sirfizzwhizz: oh I see. Well I suppose that makes sense. So Zarathos can be killed/harmed by powerful magic and holy objects? Blaze bonded to Zarathos, given everything his been through could someone like Punisher or hell even like Bucky Barnes just shoot him with a holy bullet and kill him? (Blaze that is)

@supermanwithatan01: yes. Happen before actually.

Oh dang well that sort of sucks in terms of overall power having such an easy weakness

blaze would win because ketch was controlled by the brood .. blaze was able to resist their control

@sirfizzwhizz: so final question(s):

- When Blaze is killed, does Zarathos come out?

- When Blaze is killed, does Zarathos resurrect him?

- Would unloading an AK47 with Holy bullets kill Zarathos?

Ketch would loose but noble kale would win.

I mean, currently ketch is stripped of his spirit by Johnny.