Ghost Rider & Iceman vs. Wally West & Sentry

Ghost Rider + Iceman

Wally West + Sentry

Rounds

Round 1:

• No prep
• Start 100 feet apart
• All feats allowed for all characters
• Win by KO or kill only

Round 2:

• All know everything about everyone else
• Start 100 feet apart
• All feats, most powerful versions of all characters
• Win by KO or kill only

Who wins?

@bullettimer: What have you done...

Team 2

Wally throws a 1,000, 000 IMP while GR penance stare him. Multiverse gets destroyed.

Mwahahaha

@icecold14@jas0@realitywarper@ghostrider2@sophia89@ssj_god@johnfrank120

Opinions, guys?

I have no idea why Iceman should really be anywhere near Wally. The difference is that Wally's so-called hype can be backed up; Iceman is all theory but no evidence.

@bullettimer:

What happened to you after you entered the black hole? How's the 5th dimension these days?

Wally solos everyone here.

And I'm serious.

but ghost rider can't die from that O.O.... it's not like anything holy can be used against ghost rider.....

OMG!!!!! @johnfrank120: your alt? This guys is also interested in burning the vine.

Team ICE-RIDER...

@gizmorino: hehe.

A barrage of threads are coming.

Because of comic feats:

Flash solos. All that speed force, time travel, dimension dumping means he'd erase GR and Iceman from history.

Now, putting that stupidity aside, neither really have a way of defeating GR. I don't know if Death Seed or Void Sentry can conjure a holy weapon to defeat Zarothos Rider, but it's to my understanding that he's immortal and cannot be defeated any other way.

Iceman, in comic land could I GUESS mess with the water or whatever inside Sentry and Flash's body, but back on earth, you know, where Iceman's power don't make him a damn Herald of Galactus, he doesn't belong here.

@ssj_god: they exaggerate because some don't know GR, they heard something and yeah.It takes more than little magic or holy things to deal with the rider.

@sophia89: so where would he get enough holy water to bath GR?

R1 : Bob mind control Bobby who shapes all the moisture of the World in a giant cross.

Then Wally take all priest of the World to bless the giant cross and Bob beat GR to death with it.

R2 : Bob revert back both Bobby and GR to their former human selfs and Wally dump them into the SpeedForce.

GG NO RE

God damn.......Wally solos

Zarathos solos. He is a Hell Lord being. Wally West is not beating that not Sentry.

GR drags them all to hell and make them serve him.

Team two easily. Sentry-Void solos.

I'm going with team two. A priest could defeat GR with a holy bullet, Wally can run along the world and can get one or any other holy weapon and they win.

Wally has no way of taking Iceman down and this was decided in the Iceman vs Wally thread but aside from that DSS should beat Iceman so the last two standinf would be GR vs DSS which i see stalemate

Since people underestimate or overestimate GR alot.

• Stalemates Mephisto outside his realm, till Mephisto used prep to spring a trap on Zarathos. (80s)
• Zarathos beats down Hell lord Asmodeus in his own realm. (80s)
• Zarathos is able to beat Mephisto in his own Realm in a straight up fight, easily at that.. (2000s)
• Nobel Kale easily pwns Blackheart in Blackhearts realm. (90s)
• Zarathos pwns Blackheart again though this time uses only a fraction of Zarathos powers to combine Venom and Rulk with herself to do it. (2000s)
• Zarathos defeats Ketch Ghost Rider, Vengeance Ghost Rider, Caretaker, and Classic Dr Strange at the same time. (90s)
• Nobel Kale able to defeat Nightmare in his own Realm. (90s)
• Zarathos is able to beat half of full power Lucifer with ease. (2000s)
• Zarathos beats a determin Dr. Strange with ease. (2000s)
• Nobel Kale beats down Uriel who is stated equals with Mephisto with ease. (90s)
• Zarathos beats down Santana, Dr. Strange, Thor, Man Thing, Scarlet Witch, Wolverine, Rogue, and more charcters with ease. Blaze had to be the one to stop Zarathos. (2010s)

The facts show Ghost Riders like Nobel Kale and Zarathos are Hell Lord level beings. If you think a character can beat a Hell Lord, they can likely beat Zarathos or Nobel Kale.

Blaze, Ketch, Caleb, Alejandra, and Vengeance Ghost Riders are mid tier around Iron Fist at his best level.

Yeah, bro I got you.

AHEM, everybody. Wally solos! GG. Now disperse.

@agenttoxin: LOL now this is exactly how the fight is going to happen

Oh lerd

Team 1.

Sentry and Wally wreck. No one on team one can take DSS or Void down.

@thorboy2221: Actually either member of Team 1 is capable of that because both are immune to matter manipulation. An argument could be made that Iceman might falter because stronger matter manipulators have bent to Sentry, but Ghost Rider has literally never been affected by attacks such as that, even when everyone else around him is. Johnny snatches Bob's soul and ends the madness while Flash tries to run but get's frozen in absolute zero by Iceman, to face a Penance Stare to Hell by Ghost Rider.

@namor_curry: I'm sure a molecule manipulator on Sentry's level or higher hasn't tried it on Ghost Rider (with him not being manipulated). Please provide a scan of I'm wrong. Sentry did it on a level that no one else in Marvel could contend with, I'm sure it will work just fine unless you can show me that scan. I honestly believe that Void is the GR's Achilles heel. He's been confirmed the angel of death by watcher (making him able to kill GR), he's truly immortal, and he has way too many sins. He has never done one nice thing in his life, while he has killed millions of people. GR will go into cardiac arrest.

Round 1: assuming each character is trying their best, Sentry and Wally West stomp.

Round 2: question before answering

Is Ice-Man allowed to lay down a "cold field" before they actually begin fighting?

wally and sentry

Sentry and Wally. I believe Wally can defeat Iceman (based on feats) and The Sentry has shown to be able to hang with GR at his prime. Based on characters who have delt with both, Unstable Sentry Stalemated WWH, who embarrassed GR. Sentry made ss Strange look like a joke, while strange has held his own against zarathos. Rouge's powers have no effects on the Sentry but she was able to completely absorb zarathos into herself. Even though this didn't help her much, it still shows Sentry being a little bit superior IMO.

the flash gives the speed force to the sentry and the sentry just solos

So you chose the four most hyped characters on Comic Vine, and expected GOOD Feedback?

I don't even -_- ......

@newblood2333: Strange got owned by GR.

Hulk?You really can't tell the difference between Blaze and the spirit.

Rogue also got owned when she did that and scream ''take it back''.Shall we mention that GR handled all of them just fine?

This is lowball.

@thorboy2221 said:

@namor_curry: I'm sure a molecule manipulator on Sentry's level or higher hasn't tried it on Ghost Rider (with him not being manipulated). Please provide a scan of I'm wrong. Sentry did it on a level that no one else in Marvel could contend with, I'm sure it will work just fine unless you can show me that scan. I honestly believe that Void is the GR's Achilles heel. He's been confirmed the angel of death by watcher (making him able to kill GR), he's truly immortal, and he has way too many sins. He has never done one nice thing in his life, while he has killed millions of people. GR will go into cardiac arrest.

Stop spreading nonsense.GR burns his soul via hellfire,.

Too many sins is also nothing.

Angel of Death, well GR dealt with angels before.

If he has time to before the other field closes the distance, sure

Wouldn't Iceman be killed before he can transform?

@evil_incarnate: He starts off in ice form