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#1 Edited by JohnnyZ256 (2630 posts) - - Show Bio

Genie, at full strength, runs this gauntlet:

Round 1: Beetlejuice

Round 2: Freddy Krueger (dream world abilities)

Round 3: The Mask

Round 4: Trelane

Round 5: Mr. Mxy

Round 6: Beetlejuice, Freddy, and The Mask

Round 7: Q

Round 8: Trelane, Mr. Mxy, and Q

Round 9: The entire Q Continuum

Round 10: Bruce Almighty

No morals, win by KO or forfeit. Location: outer space.

#2 Posted by WarBlade539 (4754 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyZ256: Are you talking about the Disney 'Aladdin' Genie?

#3 Posted by Oni_Bane (1842 posts) - - Show Bio

Stop at Bruce

#4 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at Mxy

#5 Posted by SithLantern93 (2191 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Q above Mxy? Q has no feats to put himself above Mxy.

#6 Posted by Dextersinister (6500 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Myx because he has much better feats.

#7 Posted by XiiX (9437 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

Stops at Myx because he has much better feats.

#8 Posted by Driger (136 posts) - - Show Bio

genie is omnipotent. he stomps.

#9 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@Driger said:

genie is omnipotent. he stomps.

He can't be omnipotent, there are limits to his abilities.

#10 Posted by Driger (136 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: only 3. and none of them stops him to defeat anybody.

#11 Posted by Frocharocha (2427 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

@Driger said:

genie is omnipotent. he stomps.

He can't be omnipotent, there are limits to his abilities.

Isn't his name Wishmaster?

#12 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha said:

@FiMFTW said:

@Driger said:

genie is omnipotent. he stomps.

He can't be omnipotent, there are limits to his abilities.

Isn't his name Wishmaster?

What does that have to do with anything?

#13 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

i think stops at 5, if not then stops at 8

#14 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

Genie clears.

#15 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

Genie clears.

Name one feat he performed in all of the 3 Aladdin movies that comes even close to what Mr. Mxyzptlk does every day.

#16 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Genie uses Toon Force and can only be depowered by the lamp.

#17 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: What has Genie done that Mr. Mxyzptlk can't do?

#18 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Genie has Toon Force which is above reality warping and he can do as he wishes, as the lamp cannot contain him due to the scenario as stated by the OP which means he`s virtually omnipotent to a degree.

#19 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: The Spectre is also "Virtually omnipotent".

Now, I will ask again, when has Genie ever shown his magic to be above 5th Dimensional Technology?

#20 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: The Spectre is not really omnipotent or more so virtually omnipotent, he is nigh omnipotent. Genie can do whatever he wants with his wishing abilities and he has Toon Force, he has granted Aladdin anything that he desires only being bound by a couple of rules, but within this scenario he is at full power and is not bound by the rules of the lamp meaning he can do whatever he wants, here is a clear definition for Toon Force which already adds to his great abilities of reality manipulation.

The Toon Force is not clearly defined. It is an impossible force, that only applies to certain animation characters. But then again i believe Plastic Man (DC Comics) has similar properties to the Toon Force.

Note: A character like Bugs Bunny, and Genie (Aladdin) have toon force, While characters like Sokka (TLA) have minimal properties, and some characters like The X-men Evolution Characters (For instance) don't seem to have it at all.

Benefits:

  • Surviving physical punishment that would otherwise kill you
  • Extended life spans
  • Shape-shifting
  • The ability to conceal oneself in small places (ex. behind a poll or in a sock drawer)
  • Hammer Space
  • Humorous aura that surrounds you
  • Bending the laws of Physics
  • Enhanced Physical Prowess
  • 4th Wall Breaching
  • Freeze Frame
  • Sound Effects production
  • Flight
#21 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

Benefits:

  • Surviving physical punishment that would otherwise kill you
  • Extended life spans
  • Shape-shifting
  • The ability to conceal oneself in small places (ex. behind a poll or in a sock drawer)
  • Hammer Space
  • Humorous aura that surrounds you
  • Bending the laws of Physics
  • Enhanced Physical Prowess
  • 4th Wall Breaching
  • Freeze Frame
  • Sound Effects production
  • Flight

What a coincidence, Mr. Mxyzptlk can do all of that too!

For the 4th time.

Give me ONE feat from Genie that makes him a multiversal threat.

Scratch that, universal.

Actually, forget that too.

Show me just one instance of Genie displaying mere GALAXY level power.

Can you do that for me?

'Cause I watched all 3 Aladdin movies and about the most impressive things he did were making a racist Jewish joke and helping Aladdin beat up some pirates.

#22 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Can you give me a reason why Mxy would be able to put him down or override the power of Toon Force? Universal, multiversal it doesn`t really matter for the simple fact that most times when helping Aladdin he is bound by certain rules and is not at full power however within this scenario that is not the case which is my point, Toon Force essentially would allow Genie to manipulate the universe and multiverse, if Bugs can do it why not Genie?

#23 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: This is what, the millionth time you've ignored my request for Genie feats? I've lost track.

most times when helping Aladdin he is bound by certain rules and is not at full power

Nope, unbound Genie was equally as useless in both of the Aladdin sequels.

if Bugs can do it why not Genie?

"Hey man, Spider-Man and Superman both have super-strength, and since Superman can move planets, I bet Spidey can too!"

#24 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW:

Ignored? I already explained his abilities and how Toon Force works, Mxy does not possess Toon Force which defies logic and the comprehensible he also doesn`t have a lamp, so what good would his powers do him?

Genie didn`t display his true power because he never was required too and Mxy cannot defeat Toon Force.

Your missing the point. Bugs although the king of Toon Force can do it, why can`t the Genie who grants wishes and is not bound? He can literally grant any wish or make anything happen being unbound means he can take that to a whole new level, Genie usually plays around and doesn`t use his powers seriously if he were to now that would be a different story.

#25 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just wondering why Bruce almighty is at the top of this list...

#26 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave:

Mxy does not possess Toon Force which defies logic and the comprehensible he also doesn`t have a lamp, so what good would his powers do him?

Oh yeah, because 5th dimensional imps are SO logical in and of themselves, aren't they?

I want a Genie durability feat showing he can tank a hit from a multiversal threat like Mxy.

He can literally grant any wish or make anything happen

Think about it, what force is stopping him from freeing himself from the lamp or the shackles in the first movie?

What is forcing him to grant wishes?

How can you argue that Mxy isn't above this force? He makes the right hand of god his b!tch.

Genie usually plays around and doesn`t use his powers seriously

Neither does Mxyzptlk....

#27 Posted by nerdork (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

A full powered genie has his lamp, and is also a slave to it. So, that can be a fairly big disadvantage for him. And yes, he does have pretty amazing magic abilites, but a genie is not permitted to kill anyone or even use his full power to harm another. Unless he is not bound to this, i dont see him getting that far, and might stop at Freddy.

But, if Genie is not bound to his rules...then he stomps up until Q, then the fights get mean. I feel that he clears it. And dont hate me Comic Vine, but I never saw Bruce Almighty do that much. He proved to be a reality shifter, and can do most of what he thinks, but there were no feats to suggest that he is more powerful than the Genie at full power. (just to be clear: This, in no way, is my opninion of God or any other all powerful diety that anyone may believe in, just a fictional movie portrayal...you can put your torches down :P)

Genie FTW!!!!!

#28 Posted by dondave (38889 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Mr Mxy

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#29 Posted by logy5000 (6133 posts) - - Show Bio

Genie was overpowered by Jefar in Aladdin 2.

Despite having "phenomenal cosmic power," I'm pretty sure Mxy could contain him in an "itty-bitty living space."

#30 Posted by logy5000 (6133 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

@NeonGameWave said:

Benefits:

  • Surviving physical punishment that would otherwise kill you
  • Extended life spans
  • Shape-shifting
  • The ability to conceal oneself in small places (ex. behind a poll or in a sock drawer)
  • Hammer Space
  • Humorous aura that surrounds you
  • Bending the laws of Physics
  • Enhanced Physical Prowess
  • 4th Wall Breaching
  • Freeze Frame
  • Sound Effects production
  • Flight

What a coincidence, Mr. Mxyzptlk can do all of that too!

For the 4th time.

Give me ONE feat from Genie that makes him a multiversal threat.

Scratch that, universal.

Actually, forget that too.

Show me just one instance of Genie displaying mere GALAXY level power.

Can you do that for me?

'Cause I watched all 3 Aladdin movies and about the most impressive things he did were making a racist Jewish joke and helping Aladdin beat up some pirates.

Actually I'd say it's when Jefar (who was on the same level as Genie,) was showing minimal control of space. Though he was quickly sucked into a lamp.

#31 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW:

However they are unpredictably comprehensible and can do things beyond that of reality warping.

Mxy can`t depower or contain Genie without a lamp.

That`s how Genie`s work in regards to why they must grant wishes, its what they are supposed to do and not all Genies are same.

As a Genie he is bound to the law and confining of a lamp which is why, however within this scenario he is not. He has no weakness or obstacle holding him back.

However my point is that if Genie were to use his powers at full potential he would truly be powerful and there`s no reason to believe that Mxy can depower or kill Genie who uses Toon Force, and can only be depowered by one item which is the lamp.

#32 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: How do you even know he wields the Toon Force and not just magic anyway?

It's blatantly said that he uses magic.

#33 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Toon Force is a power that resides within toon characters or toon like characters, characters such as Spongebob, Genie and etc, have a form of Toon Force, its not a power like magic where it is more evident but is more so operational through nature as it is own force that is unpredictable, magic is his key power yes but it still doesn`t change the fact that he possesses a form of Toon Force along with his magical abilities.

#34 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Mr. Mxyzptlk is a toon-like so.....

#35 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Hey, wait a minute, the Mask is also in the gauntlet, and he unquestionably has the Toon force, so why does Genie clear?

#36 Posted by X_insignia1 (1395 posts) - - Show Bio

he stops at the mask.

#37 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Similar but not the same and Mxy doesn't use Toon Force.

#38 Edited by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

@NeonGameWave: Hey, wait a minute, the Mask is also in the gauntlet, and he unquestionably has the Toon force, so why does Genie clear?

The Mask is more so a top class reality warper and if The Mask is removed which is done through trickery or acknowledgement from the wearer, then The Mask would be ultimately rendered powerless. Genie on the other hand cannot be depowered.

#39 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Beetlejuice in round 1.

#40 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Why not? He meets all the requirements that you stated.

#41 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 5

#42 Posted by JohnnyZ256 (2630 posts) - - Show Bio

Bonus question: How many of you know who Trelane is?
#43 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20226 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyZ256 said:

Bonus question: How many of you know who Trelane is?

That's certainly difficult to count XD

#44 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: It has nothing to do with meeting the requirements, its the fact that he does not possess the actual ability or essence, his powers work more so in regards to reality manipulation which has limits unlike Toon Force which defies physics and everything of comprehensibility.

#45 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: What can be said about Mxy's reality warping can also be said about Genie's magic.

#46 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Genie can use magic, Toon Force and cannot be depowered. Their powers may seem similar but they are actually very different in regards to functionality and how they affect or alter existence.

#47 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Well that's a blatant lie since he got depowered by the lamp.

#48 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: You are missing the point, yet again. No one is lying. My point is Genie at full power within this scenario not being bound by the lamp and having no weakness can not be depowered.

#49 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: The lamp was able to depower him at some point, why can't it happen again?

#50 Posted by NeonGameWave (9016 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Within this scenario, I doubt it. Under certain conditions and circumstance it can, but Genie being at full power, unbound and serious wouldn`t be depowered.