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#1 Edited by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio


Thrag the supreme leader of the viltrumites , he was trained from birth to become the most powerful viltrumite

he is much faster and stronger than invincible and omni man,he one shotted battle beast and thedeus, and took invincible and omni-man on both with ease and nearly killed them but refrained

Vs

Rules: superman cannot use ice breath and heat vision.

 Round 1: in metropolis 
Round 2: in space
fight is obviously to the death

#2 Edited by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio

Hellllllooooooooooooooo. 
 
Unfortunately, I don't think Thragg has nearly enough feats to compete with Superman. He's potentially on par with him (as he was effortlessly slapping around Invincible, Omni-Man, Oliver and many others), but with how everyone debates on this site, there's no way to prove the Regent can win this.

#3 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
Hellllllooooooooooooooo.  Unfortunately, I don't think Thragg has nearly enough feats to compete with Superman. He's potentially on par with him (as he was effortlessly slapping around Invincible, Omni-Man, Oliver and many others), but with how everyone debates on this site, there's no way to prove the Regent can win this.
well if we look at it this way during the war invincible with a triple effort managed to penetrate a planet  and destabilize its core which is 1.25 times the earth that would require hundreds if not thousands of megaton bombs , when someone is strong enough to dominate with guys like omni-man and invincible. plus much higher skill and super intelligence i think it would be a fair fight, because it doesnt mean supes can cross lightspeed in raw speed his fighting speed is no where near the speed of light plus i think invincible clocks at 800000 mph
#4 Edited by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary: I mean if we're merely speculating based on something like that...I guess Thragg would give Superman trouble because of his ruthlessness and intelligence. I mean I'm all for Thragg just because I'm biased as hell when it comes to threads with characters from Invincible (THE GREATEST SERIES EVER).  
 
I just think its tough to compare Invincible to anything "mainstream" because Kirkman is the only writer for it so there aren't 15 different people writing up crazy feats for one character. Plus Invincible characters fight more realistically, and address issues like fighting speed and remain consistant, something DC or Marvel rarely do :P. 
#5 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
@higher_evolutionary: I mean if we're merely speculating based on something like that...I guess Thragg would give Superman trouble because of his ruthlessness and intelligence. I mean I'm all for Thragg just because I'm biased as hell when it comes to threads with characters from Invincible (THE GREATEST SERIES EVER).   I just think its tough to compare Invincible to anything "mainstream" because Kirkman is the only writer for it so there aren't 15 different people writing up crazy feats for one character. Plus Invincible characters fight more realistically, and address issues like fighting speed and remain consistant, something DC or Marvel rarely do :P. 
of course it is, lol i was so impressed with thragg i made this thread just after reading the war story
#6 Edited by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary: Oh man, the Vultrimite War. Its just constant space combat, and I love how everyone is upside down or sideways while fighting because obviously, that's how fights with no gravitational pull would go down. Though my favorite story is the first Conquest fight, the War was pretty, preeeeeetty mind blowing.  
#7 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@higher_evolutionary: Oh man, the Vultrimite War. Its just constant space combat, and I love how everyone is upside down or sideways while fighting because obviously, that's how fights with no gravitational pull would go down. Though my favorite story is the first Conquest fight, the War was pretty, preeeeeetty mind blowing.

Invincible = best superhero comic as of late.

are you up to speed for some more battle action? Allen the Alien vs Nolan and kid Omni-Man coming up in the next issue!!!

I think Thragg could win this...

#8 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus: Damn man...Yeah I'm just following the trades, so I have no idea what's coming up. Though f*cking Primmmaster85 or whatever loves sending me PMs with spoilers. 
#9 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio

come on guys this is a good fight

#10 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

Thragg due to pure bad assery.

#11 Posted by ComicStooge (14026 posts) - - Show Bio

Where are they fighting?

#12 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@ComicStooge said:
Where are they fighting?
Metropolis
#13 Posted by buttersdaman000 (10572 posts) - - Show Bio

Nearly everything youve said about Superman is wrong...... 
 
But this Thragg guy seems like a total badass. I need to speed up my purchase of Invincible trades

#14 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:
Nearly everything youve said about Superman is wrong......  But this Thragg guy seems like a total badass. I need to speed up my purchase of Invincible trades
what you mean by what i said in the other thread? well i read the grant morisson run on JL and supe was really living up to his highly praised status on the vine but he had weaknesses and rules to limit him but after that, he'd pull off something out of the blue like the SA for the sake of the plot,and another thing pls tell me why does superman gets tagged by nearly every villain he faces unless every person in the DCU has micro or nano second reflexes, then y? anyway dude at the end of the day you have your opinion and i have mine, plus supe is in my top 5 favorite characters
#15 Posted by Nefarious (22923 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh, he ripped off his arm.

#16 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nefarious:
 this is even more
#17 Posted by termiteone4ever (8014 posts) - - Show Bio

@higher_evolutionary:

Excellent scans i dont see this Guy taking a serious Supes. HE is a pretty tough and an excellent fighter too. Supes is not the kind of Hero to be defeated by the likes of him. He is like a Zod still not on Zod level either. Supes has taken on more power houses and than him too.

#18 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@termiteone4ever said:

@higher_evolutionary:

Excellent scans i dont see this Guy taking a serious Supes. HE is a pretty tough and an excellent fighter too. Supes is not the kind of Hero to be defeated by the likes of him. He is like a Zod still not on Zod level either. Supes has taken on more power houses and than him too.

 thanks
i am not saying that thragg wins but i just wanna discuss it , i think its a pretty close battle ,anyway the way invincible has been building up over the years before the war, you can appreciate how strong he is .i was hoping more people would discuss this...........
#19 Posted by termiteone4ever (8014 posts) - - Show Bio

@higher_evolutionary said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@higher_evolutionary:

Excellent scans i dont see this Guy taking a serious Supes. HE is a pretty tough and an excellent fighter too. Supes is not the kind of Hero to be defeated by the likes of him. He is like a Zod still not on Zod level either. Supes has taken on more power houses and than him too.

thanksi am not saying that thragg wins but i just wanna discuss it , i think its a pretty close battle ,anyway the way invincible has been building up over the years before the war, you can appreciate how strong he is .i was hoping more people would discuss this...........

I like invincible as well . I havent been all up to date but i will catch up later for sure. i am pretty sure that Thragg would be good fight. I am not sure about it been pretty close after while Supes cut loose on him it might be a little more distance that you think

#20 Posted by Nefarious (22923 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary
 
Brutality!
#21 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio

The double punch to the sides of the head is SO BRUTAL.  
 
But yeah, we have yet to see the limitations of Thragg's strength, though he is a BAUS. 

#22 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13122 posts) - - Show Bio

"How do we beat this guy?" 
 
"We can't."  
 
SO BADASS

#23 Posted by ComicStooge (14026 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes has taken stronger opponents. He can win.

#24 Edited by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio

sorry for bumping this i want to see a good discussion on this.....

#25 Posted by jashro44 (25493 posts) - - Show Bio

Current superman probably loses due to lack of feats...I am not an expert on invincible though and really just guessing based on what I have heard and seen. I think thragg can win.

#26 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44 said:
Current superman probably loses due to lack of feats...I am not an expert on invincible though and really just guessing based on what I have heard and seen. I think thragg can win.
this is pre flashpoint superman
#27 Posted by Nefarious (22923 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder how he would do against Black Adam.

#28 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say bragg ... because he is so badass .. .and sports a 80's cop mustache ... but I am not sure if he has the feats to really put him on supermans level.

#29 Posted by jashro44 (25493 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary said:
@jashro44 said:
Current superman probably loses due to lack of feats...I am not an expert on invincible though and really just guessing based on what I have heard and seen. I think thragg can win.
this is pre flashpoint superman
I say superman in that case. All though I am not to knowledgeable of invincible comics.
#30 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2986 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thragg could win if it was not for supermans speed

#31 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22996 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thragg could win if it was not for supermans speed

NOOOOO! Superman STOMPS, way stronger, way faster, way more powerful.

#32 Edited by Nelomaxwell (10704 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-flash point superman wins. Thragg is like a more ruthless version of Zod but Superman pre flash point has had soo much time to learn and use his abilities he would eventually win out. He would be in very bad shape afterwards though.

#33 Posted by dondave (38895 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark

#34 Edited by Bronze_Surfer (2986 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by Immortal777 (7735 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Edited by Bronze_Surfer (2986 posts) - - Show Bio

@immortal777: No but he stomped 3 people who destroyed up a planet

#37 Posted by Immortal777 (7735 posts) - - Show Bio

@bronze_surfer: Those three didn't outright destroy the planet it's core was already unstable and even if they did it doesn't mean Thragg could destroy a planet alone.

#38 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2986 posts) - - Show Bio

@immortal777: IIRC it was not that the core was unstable but that if they did not do it perfectly at the same time it would re stabilize it would kill them. And I do think he could do what they did alone considering he not just stomped them but basicly everyone they brought with them

#39 Posted by Immortal777 (7735 posts) - - Show Bio

@bronze_surfer: Show me proof of Thragg destroying a world otherwise he cant do it.

#40 Posted by Theindiedudes (219 posts) - - Show Bio

Thragg Takes home the win

#41 Posted by dondave (38895 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark

#42 Edited by LuciusTheEternal (802 posts) - - Show Bio

Thragg could not beat Supes by feats. He is more comparable to Black Adam without the magic.

#43 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

How durable are invincible and omniman

#44 Posted by Night4345 (5789 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22996 posts) - - Show Bio

Thragg could not beat Supes by feats. He is more comparable to Black Adam without the magic.

#46 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

@night4345:

That was after the core was compromised wasn't it?

#47 Posted by Night4345 (5789 posts) - - Show Bio

@pperspectiveandreality: It's still diving through a planet, the core being compromised just allowed them to destroy it.

#48 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

@night4345:

Fair enough. Idk if Superman has the strength or durability on that level much less that of thragg.

#49 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

@night4345:

Wait a second didn't superman do virtually the same thing in issue 14 when he left shay veritas' lab?

#50 Edited by tparks (5416 posts) - - Show Bio

OP says fight is to the death. Thragg wins both rounds.