General Grievous VS Batman,Slade,Wolverine,Captain America

Grievous is not that strong, a single Jedi can take him on. With Bats and 2 regenerators together, and Captain America with his indestructible shield, I feel as though Grievous is a goner.

@darkdefender: He can kill weaker Jedi with ease, but struggles with stronger Jedi. Freaking Ahsoka has also been able to fight evenly with him.

The guys he's faced with are no pushovers and can easily rival the Jedi that have beaten/survived Grievous.

Bats and Cap can disarm him no problem. Literally. He has plenty of organic parts for Deathstroke to take aim at. Not that it matters once he gets in range of Wolverine.

I really don't see why so many people say Grievous so easily. I'd bet everyone here has fought a robot with a laser sword.

:) lol good ol' Jlone you're not supposed to bait ;)

Grievous demolishes all of them with ease.

Wow at the comments of saying beating weaker Jedi means nothing. Even worse when it was with a large number of peak humans backing them. On phone, will elaborate when home.

Well, I guess the last line is a little baity ;)

But seriously. I don't think a light saber is cutting through adamantium. There are several metals within the Star Wars universe that cannot be cut with them. Without being able to cut through his bones, Wolverine alone should be enough to take him down. He'll take some punishment for sure, but in the end Wolverine wins. Add these other top tier fighters who have faced similar threats and have long range attacks (not to mention Cap having a weapon he can't cut through) and I don't see how this is even fair.

If Grievous had the Force it might be different. I haven't seen a good argument here why he wins against Wolverine, let alone all four, besides he is fast and has killed Jedi.

@jloneblackheart: Grievous is far faster than any of them, far stronger than any of them, he's also in another tier completely when it comes to skill. He can't cut adamantium but Wolverine won't be walking around having his stomach cut open, throat cut, tendons severed etc. At the very least Grievous can decommission wolverine and obliterate everyone here and then K.O. Logan. All these characters are h2h based which is a going to be a nightmare for them. Given his superior speed he can easily find openings in their attacks and exploit them. They need to hit his vitals, something incredibly hard to do, while all he needs to do is hit them once and it's all over. Batman dies within the first second, Slade goes next, followed by Captain America and Wolverine.

He'll literally be a blur to them considering Durge, someone who see's jedi move in slow motion, remarked that Grievous was pretty fast.

@eisenfauste: Every one of them has faced faster and stronger. And you are really going to tell me that Grievious is more skilled than four of the most skilled and battle hardened fighters in all of comics? Do you think Wolverine is just going to leave his throat and organs open for attack? Do you think Grievious is landing one of those blows without losing one of his hands in exchange? Wolverine basically uses his healing factor to tank this stuff all the time and he fights through the pain and damage.

All while three other guys are targeting him with bullets, batarangs, unbreakable shields and all other nifty gadgets from Batman and explosives from Deathstroke? We aren't talking a Flash level of speed difference here. They will be landing hits on Grievious who isn't shown to be particularly durable. Based on the fight with Obi-Wan, every one on this team has the speed and agility to avoid Grievious if we're talking about Grievious after his fight with Windu. Also, it didn't look so hard to hit his vitals in that fight. Cap and Wolverine easily have the strength to open that chest cavity.

I don't believe Grievious is on this untouchable level above these four guys that you do. Even if he is slightly above, it's not even close to the level of a lot of villains these guys face on the Avengers, Justice League and X-Men on a regular basis. Team leaders here. Grievous is not something four guys of this caliber can't handle.

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@jloneblackheart:

The last time wolverine faced someone "comparable" to the speed Grievous is sporting is Gorgon and he got demolished. Captain America has trouble with Wolverine's speed which is only low mach speed in terms of reactions, if we take his higher feats. Batman got curbstomped by Slade wilson whom also is only low mach speed at best etc.

Grievous is hypersonic in terms of speed looking at feats and by scaling. No one here could lay a finger on him at all.

And you are really going to tell me that Grievious is more skilled than four of the most skilled and battle hardened fighters in all of comics?

I said he's in another tier completely :). By this I mean he has learned and mastered all 7 lightsaber forms which is a form of "martial arts" not even encountered by anyone in this universe. So automatically they'll be facing an opponent utilizing bladework that they won't even understand. On top of this he incorporates all 7 forms into one highly hybridized style to further confuse and throw off his opponents. They won't be able to find an opening, when you add a disgusting amount of speed to this well.... they all die horribly.

Do you think Wolverine is just going to leave his throat and organs open for attack?

Considering his go to is to charge at an opponent and tank n' spank then yes.

Do you think Grievious is landing one of those blows without losing one of his hands in exchange?

Well considering he can land 22 blows in one second that doesn't really leave any of them room to get a counter blow in....

His armor is also durable enough to no sell lightsaber blows so he can tank a few blows from Cap's shield, explosives etc.

Wolverine basically uses his healing factor to tank this stuff all the time and he fights through the pain and damage.

He can but he won't be walking around having been nigh eviscerated by blades, also by cauterizing the wounds it'll slow the healing process.

All while three other guys are targeting him with bullets, batarangs, unbreakable shields and all other nifty gadgets from Batman and explosives from Deathstroke?

He'll be right in between all of them before they can pull a weapon, besides they can't even tag him considering he's outpaced explosives, missiles, blaster bolts etc. from an advanced team of clones in conjunction with a LAAT Gunship.

We aren't talking a Flash level of speed difference here. They will be landing hits on Grievious who isn't shown to be particularly durable.

No but it's hypersonic which is out of their league in terms of speed. They won't be landing hits considering half of them will be dead within seconds of the fight beginning. And Grievous, again, has tanked laser cannon fire, explosives, survived a force crush from Mace, lightsaber strikes etc. The only one here with the potential to damage him is Wolverine which won't be happening tbh.

Based on the fight with Obi-Wan, every one on this team has the speed and agility to avoid Grievious if we're talking about Grievious after his fight with Windu.

Obi-Wan Kenobi is fast enough and skilled enough to deflect omnidirectional blaster fire. On top of the fight being sided in his favor from the beginning. Kenobi is a Master of Form III Soresu which is tailored to defending against multiple blades and or opponents. For that matter he also disabled Grievous by saber locking and then running his blade down to chop off the General's hand at the wrist, an exposed area.

Again unless you show me hypersonic speed feats from anyone on the team or them fighting and keeping up with someone of Spider-Man's level speed, or better Gorgon, then maybe they can touch him. Even then they lack comparable skill to defeat him, or durability for that matter....

Cap and Wolverine easily have the strength to open that chest cavity.

Lunging for his chest cavity will leave them open to attack not to mention getting that close to Grievous is pretty dangerous. Cap loses his head and or gets punted away same with Wolverine.

I don't believe Grievious is on this untouchable level above these four guys that you do. Even if he is slightly above, it's not even close to the level of a lot of villains these guys face on the Avengers, Justice League and X-Men on a regular basis.

Mebbe. . . until you see how they fair against opponents of this speed and skill. Usually has gone south for them.

Grievous is not something four guys of this caliber can't handle.

Au contraire they can't handle him :)

Wolverine>Nuke>Grievious

Wolverine solos due to durability

Team, Wolverine is MVP.

@darkdefender: By season 5 when she faces Grievous, she didn't appear to struggle at all. She fled for other reasons, not because she was losing.

I was talking about the guys in this thread. Cap, Bats, Wolverine, and Slade. They would be a lot of trouble to an average jedi, especially the latter two.

Wolverine might be able to solo.

no one is soloing grievous without lowballing the hell out of the general

team > grievous at his worst

grievous at his prime >>>>>>>>>>>>> team

@stryzzar:

By season 5 when she faces Grievous, she didn't appear to struggle at all.

her face was all dirtied-up and she couldn't get a good hit in plus grievous was toying with her literally

She fled for other reasons, not because she was losing.

and what other reasons were that?

I was talking about the guys in this thread. Cap, Bats, Wolverine, and Slade. They would be a lot of trouble to an average jedi, especially the latter two.

jedi don't abuse their powers. if they did anyone of the 4 would be dead. also define average jedi. who do you consider to be an average jedi.........anakin? kenobi? mace?

@masterkungfu:

No, she was stalling for time to let the younglings escape. What has her face being dirtied up got to do with anything? Grievous was toying with her back when they first met, where she almost got killed, not in season 5 where they were evenly matched.

The other reason being Ahsoka prioritising keeping the younglings safe. Once they were in the ship she boards with them.

Anakin and Obi-Wan are well above average. Obi-Wan is a jedi master and acknowledged as one of the most skilled jedi to exist. Anakin, as the Chosen One, is the most powerful Jedi in terms of potential and raw power.

By average Jedi, I mean countless unnamed Jedi who get killed on missions and can't handle threats much lesser than Grievous.

And how would the Jedi kill regenerators like Wolverine and Deathstroke? Both can take damage while continuing to fight, while all it takes is one lethal wound to a Jedi. Also pretty sure Cap's shield can withstand a lightsaber strike.

This really depends on what version of Grievous we're using.

Still Grevious

Grievous has butchered a group of Jedi easily, several times. Even normal Jedi should have rivalling/surpassing stats than any member of the team.

@wollfmyth209: With the exception of the ridiculous regeneration capabilities from Wolverine, that and having something that they wouldn't be able to counter randomly which is The Force. Which even then a Jedi wouldn't abuse due to morals.

The only thing I'm going to add to this is that Grievous fight vs Ahsoka is not a low showing for him. Ahsoka even as a padawans is a Jedi who has fought against the very best of the era and has performed better than other Jedi masters have. She may be the rank "padawan" but she is more combat ready than some of the Masters in the order. She is way more powerful and skilled than she has any right being as a padawan

Certain versions of Grevious would absolutely decimate everyone except Wolverine. If the team wins it's only because of Wolverine. Without him Grevious would blitz and literally stomp.

@darkdefender: I don't know which battle you're referring to. I was referring to the one where she was escorting some younglings and teamed up with the pirate Honda.

She was prioritising the younglings safety and once all of them were on the ship she jois them. Also Honda had started shooting at Grievous using the ship's blasters so she no longer had to keep duelling with him.

The fact that this isn't locked is disturbing. What's even more disturbing is people actually argue the Team can take on Grievous.

Batman solos ;-)

@darkdefender: Okay. Well I just explained my reasonings.

Characters on this team could potentially solo.

Grevious should really win.

@darkdefender: My point is she didn't flee because she was losing, it was a pretty even fight overall. Her skill level and Grievous is quite close nearing the end of the series.

@eisenfauste: Please show me proof of Grievous being hypersonic.

Grievous. They all get speed blitzed. The only person that is capable of withstanding him is Wolverine, and I'm pretty sure that he can be KOd.

@darkdefender: My point was Grievous wasn't dominating her and forcing her to flee. She fled for other reasons.

@darkdefender: Do you want me to repeat myself again? Can't you just scroll up a bit to see the reasons?

@darkdefender: Okay firstly, I never said she was certain she could defeat Grievous. Merely that she was roughly evenly matched with him. Secondly, even if she had a chance of defeating Grievous that doesn't mean she would want to take that risk. He's still very dangerous and she would be putting her life on the line, and that was not the mission she was assigned with at the time. Plus, Honda started shooting at Grievous so she no longer needed to fight for the time being.

You'd need a real heavy hitter like Hawkeye to take on Grievous.

Woohoo this thread is still going! For...reasons unknown!

With prep, team can win. Without it, Grievous slaughters. Only chance they have is Wolverine eventually landing a lucky shot, having survived long enough to do so via his regeneration.

Batman EMPS, Wolverine cuts him scrap!

Hawkeye EMPS, takes a lightsaber & cuts Grievous to scrap.