Garlic Jr. vs Vegeta

Garlic Jr. from his filler saga in-between the Frieza and Trunks Sagas battles Vegeta from the Frieza Saga on Namek. Garlic is in his giant form and the Makyo Star is in place above the battlefield.

Rules:

• No destroying the planet or heavenly bodies (stars, orbiting moons, etc.)
• A fighter must be knocked out, forced to surrender, or killed to be declared the loser
• No outside help

And I thought this was a good one seeing how Garlic Jr.'s immortal and has only been beaten by being forced into the Dead Zone.....

Gohan beated Garlic Jr.

Vegeta shouldn't have that much of a problem

who is Garlic Jr.?

"Gohan beated Garlic Jr.

Vegeta shouldn't have that much of a problem
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"who is Garlic Jr.?"

he looks like piccolo.

how cute

"he looks like piccolo.

how cute"

everyone except trunks.

His hair was purple.

how adorable.

Alright, similarities aside, who would win?

I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....

Actually.... Garlic would win this... Vegeta in the Frieza saga wasn't even anywhere near Goku's level (non-SS Goku). In fact, Vegeta was weaker than 2nd form Frieza.

Without any Planet destroying moves, Vegeta would lose. The Only way is if Vegeta uses the Galick Gun on the Mayko Star; But he would need to charge, and Garlic Jr. is pretty protective of that Star.

Not to mention if the DeadZone had already been activated, it cause less focus on Vegeta, because this is before Vegeta's training at 300 times gravity (Early-Mid Android Saga) and 10,000 times gravity (Boo saga)

"I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....
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"Static Shock said:

"I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....
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Final Flash would disintegrate Garlic Jr. and the beam would keep on going for lightyears away. Garlic would disintegrate; but he would still come back to life.
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"Perfect Cell said:

"Static Shock said:

"I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....
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Final Flash would disintegrate Garlic Jr. and the beam would keep on going for lightyears away. Garlic would disintegrate; but he would still come back to life.
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Vegeta doesn't know how to use the Final Flash in the Frieza Saga."

"Warsman said:

"Perfect Cell said:

"Static Shock said:

"I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....
"

Final Flash would disintegrate Garlic Jr. and the beam would keep on going for lightyears away. Garlic would disintegrate; but he would still come back to life.
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Vegeta doesn't know how to use the Final Flash in the Frieza Saga."

Actually.... This was the "proto-type" Final Flash during the fight against Raccoome.

  

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"Perfect Cell said:

"Warsman said:

"Perfect Cell said:

"Static Shock said:

"I'm thinking the Final Flash could knock him into orbit. But whatever. I don't debate DBZ that much....
"

Final Flash would disintegrate Garlic Jr. and the beam would keep on going for lightyears away. Garlic would disintegrate; but he would still come back to life.
"

Vegeta doesn't know how to use the Final Flash in the Frieza Saga."

Actually.... This was the "proto-type" Final Flash during the fight against Raccoome.

  

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If it didn't kill a groupie like Recoome, what makes you think it'll vaporize Garlic Jr., who, I might add, was given immortality by the Eternal Dragon?"

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Garlic Jr. can't die.....

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Oh and another factor why i say, "Final Flash can disintegrate Garlic Jr." is because; Piccolo used a blast strong enough to tear a big hole through Garlic Jr.'s stomach. He almost teared the Garlic in half. Of course Garlic fell, but a few moments later he stood back up with the hole gone.

"Oh and another factor why i say, "Final Flash can disintegrate Garlic Jr." is because; Piccolo used a blast strong enough to tear a big hole through Garlic Jr.'s stomach. He almost teared the Garlic in half. Of course Garlic fell, but a few moments later he stood back up with the hole gone.



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"Perfect Cell said:

"Oh and another factor why i say, "Final Flash can disintegrate Garlic Jr." is because; Piccolo used a blast strong enough to tear a big hole through Garlic Jr.'s stomach. He almost teared the Garlic in half. Of course Garlic fell, but a few moments later he stood back up with the hole gone.



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Gohan ripped through his stomach with a flying charge. Everything else is right."

when vegeta's fighting, is it before or after he wishes for imortality

It's in the Frieza Saga, so I'd imagine neither since he didn't get immortality at any time he tried, Boken.

Vegeta's wish never went through. When Vegeta wished Immorality; The namek Guru died.. and the Eternal Dragon disappeared.

@king_saturn: Did you see the recent comments?

Garlic jr cannot die due to being immortal so vegeta eventually passes out because he runs out of ki after stomping him for a few hours plus if garlic jr can summon the dead zone how can vegeta survive the force of a black hole?

Vegeta can't kill him but he can probably K.O. him.

Vegta stomps

He does the same thing Gohan did to him

Garlic Jr was in between 2nd form and 3rd form Frieza based on his performance against Piccolo

Vegeta cannot kill garlic jr because he's immortal and plus final form garlic jr can survive the force of a black hole something that vegeta most certainly cannot do considering he's large planet to star level depending on where you scale him

@havefun:

He doesn't have to kill him.

He just overpowers him and throws him into the Dead Zone like Gohan did.

Filler Arc Jr is around 2nd to 3rd Form Frieza Level

Namek Saga Vegata is above 3rd form Frieza

So if garlic jr does not use the deadzone then vegeta loses then correct?

@havefun:

Not likely to happen in character

But if he doesn't, I just see Vegeta rag dolling him with eventual BFR once he realizes he can't be killed.

Vegeta would likely stop attacking once he figures out he cannot be killed however garlic jr could attack him to force engagement and tire him out by extension then use the dead zone to bfr him when he's too exhausted to resist the dead zone.

Plus it's not like vegeta has the power to resist the dead zone anyway considering black holes possess far more force then planet busting does.

@havefun:

You don't think Vegeta could just knock him out or blast him into space?

I wouldn't compare Dead Zone to an actual Black Hole in potency

Because then you would have to bump Pre-SS Kid Gohan to that level

Doesn't seem right

''You don't think Vegeta could just knock him out or blast him into space''

Vegeta cannot kill garlic jr because he's immoral as stated before and blasting into space will not do anything considering he can survive in a black hole.

''Because then you would have to bump Pre-SS Kid Gohan to that level''

The anime has different feats and scaling to the manga what more can be said really.

''You don't think Vegeta could just knock him out or blast him into space''

Vegeta cannot kill garlic jr because he's immoral as stated before and blasting into space will not do anything considering he can survive in a black hole.

''Because then you would have to bump Pre-SS Kid Gohan to that level''

The anime has different feats and scaling to the manga what more can be said really.

''I wouldn't compare Dead Zone to an actual Black Hole in potency''

The dead zone was making piccolo unable to move you know the same piccolo who was boding gohan who in turn destroyed the maykyo star.

The dead zone literally made the star level piccolo unable to move so yes it does compare to an actual black hole via feats alone plus guidebooks confirm this aswell

@havefun:

It will send him off the planet, meaning out of the battle.

Surviving vs no selling + continuing a fight are two different things

Anime still follows a linear path in power scaling

Still don't have proof Dead Zone is potent as an actual Black Hole. lol

This version of Garlic could handle the assimilation between Piccolo and Nail, which means the only Vegeta that can handle him is the one who fought Final Form Frieza

No he didn't, Piccolo was kicking his ass before he got weakened. And Garlic had immortality.