#1 Posted by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

Standard equipment.

Fight to the death.

At normal power levels.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

Based off my knowledge of Meta Knight he fought a warrior so strong he had to be locked away and won, so I believe Meta Knight wins.

#3 Posted by badgame (41 posts) - - Show Bio

This could go anyway considering:

Ganondorf is one of the most powerful characters in the series, mostly due to his frequent possession of the Triforce of Power. Even without it, his magical powers are still extremely potent. In Ocarina of Time he possessed some magical abilities before obtaining the Triforce, shown when he blasts Link with dark magic and plagues the Great Deku Tree, Dodongo's Cavern, and Lord Jabu Jabu with monsters. In Twilight Princess he obtains powers of the Twili and enter Zelda's body to control it. In The Wind Waker, Ganondorf was shown to be powerful enough to take a blast from Valoo (Great dragon of dragon roost island) and survive after his full power had returned to him. Also in The Wind Waker he manipulates the weather on the entire Great Sea, quote from the ingame dialouge: "So...that foul rain and endless night were indeed elements of a curse brought on us by Ganon! He must intend to cast this land into pure darkness for all time.."

Meta Knight's Dimensional Cape on the other hand allows him to manipulate space, and is a powerful weapon in its own right. Meta Knight most commonly wraps it around himself to teleport away. In the games, Galaxia (Meta Knights sword) is capable of shooting out sword beams and standard sword moves.

Meta Knight would win it if it came down to a mere physical sword-battle but I think Ganondorf is too powerful for Meta Knight to handle.

#4 Posted by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

@badgame: I think you toned down Meta Knight a bit. Galaxia is capable of shooting not only sword beams, but barriers of energy & fire, he can completely electrocute the ground with his sword, he can shoot energy tornadoes out of it, he can heal himself, turn himself into a tornado of fire and energy. Galaxia can absorb energy that is shot at him, and can block attacks that can decimate steel without a scratch. He single-handedly defeated and killed Galacta Knight, who was a threat on a galaxy level.

Meta Knight is a lot older than Ganondorf too. Ganondorf is somewhere around 500 years old, Meta Knight is over 50,000 years old.

#5 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem here is that Ganondorf will keep fighting unless specific items are used on him. The Master Sword and Silver Arrows are the only known things capable of killing Ganon/dorf. He can be hurt by other weapons but he just recovers and continues fighting. Even if Meta Knight were superior in every way by a large margin and battered Ganon for years nonstop with his standard equipment, he couldn't actually kill Ganon unless he had either of the two items I mentioned.

Long story short: Meta Knight cannot win this fight under these conditions.

#6 Posted by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

@MorganFreeman said:

The problem here is that Ganondorf will keep fighting unless specific items are used on him. The Master Sword and Silver Arrows are the only known things capable of killing Ganon/dorf. He can be hurt by other weapons but he just recovers and continues fighting. Even if Meta Knight were superior in every way by a large margin and battered Ganon for years nonstop with his standard equipment, he couldn't actually kill Ganon unless he had either of the two items I mentioned.

Long story short: Meta Knight cannot win this fight under these conditions.

Meta Knight can teleport him to a distant place in space.

#7 Edited by Wolfrazer (6501 posts) - - Show Bio

Am pretty sure Silver Arrows have been retconned and the only thing that can actually defeat Ganon is the Master Sword. Aside from the two games with Silver Arrows, they haven't been shown at all, its always been just the Master Sword that has defeated Ganon. Which if you look at it makes sense, the Master Sword is evil's bane and has the power to vanquish evil...so why bother having silver arrows if the Master Sword can destroy evil and more?(Protection from curses, transformations, etc)

#8 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Super Smash Bros is that way.

#9 Edited by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

Am pretty sure Silver Arrows have been retconned and the only thing that can actually defeat Ganon is the Master Sword. Aside from the two games with Silver Arrows, they haven't been shown at all, its always been just the Master Sword that has defeated Ganon. Which if you look at it makes sense, the Master Sword is evil's bane and has the power to vanquish evil...so why bother having silver arrows if the Master Sword can destroy evil and more?(Protection from curses, transformations, etc)

I feel like that's hyperbole since Ganondorf can be hurt by his attacks being deflected back at him.

@Sethlol: I play that game all the time lol. Though I wish they gave MK all his powers.

#10 Posted by beautifulrevery (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@MorganFreeman said:

The problem here is that Ganondorf will keep fighting unless specific items are used on him. The Master Sword and Silver Arrows are the only known things capable of killing Ganon/dorf. He can be hurt by other weapons but he just recovers and continues fighting. Even if Meta Knight were superior in every way by a large margin and battered Ganon for years nonstop with his standard equipment, he couldn't actually kill Ganon unless he had either of the two items I mentioned.

Long story short: Meta Knight cannot win this fight under these conditions.

Meta Knight can teleport him to a distant place in space.

Your original post said fight to the death hence no BFR. You may want to edit the OP

#11 Posted by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery: Eh nevermind. BFR is a lame way to win anyway.

#12 Edited by NeonGameWave (7712 posts) - - Show Bio

Meta Knight is awesome and he is pretty strong but I don`t think he can take on Gannondorf.

#13 Posted by Wolfrazer (6501 posts) - - Show Bio
@logy5000 said:

@Wolfrazer said:

Am pretty sure Silver Arrows have been retconned and the only thing that can actually defeat Ganon is the Master Sword. Aside from the two games with Silver Arrows, they haven't been shown at all, its always been just the Master Sword that has defeated Ganon. Which if you look at it makes sense, the Master Sword is evil's bane and has the power to vanquish evil...so why bother having silver arrows if the Master Sword can destroy evil and more?(Protection from curses, transformations, etc)

I feel like that's hyperbole since Ganondorf can be hurt by his attacks being deflected back at him.

@Sethlol: I play that game all the time lol. Though I wish they gave MK all his powers.

I never said that Ganon couldn't be hurt by other attacks, just only defeated truly by the Master Sword.
#14 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Ganon should win.

Since this is most likely composite Ganon, he has all shown powers including teleportation, summoning monsters, and being able to move freely between the normal world and the Twilight realm.

Plus the Triforce of Courage gives it's possessor immortality unless sealed by the Master Sword so honestly, unless Meta Knight is given a master sword, Ganon cannot lose since he cannot die.

#15 Posted by Wolfrazer (6501 posts) - - Show Bio
@UltimateHero0406 said:

Ganon should win.

Since this is most likely composite Ganon, he has all shown powers including teleportation, summoning monsters, and being able to move freely between the normal world and the Twilight realm.

Plus the Triforce of Courage gives it's possessor immortality unless sealed by the Master Sword so honestly, unless Meta Knight is given a master sword, Ganon cannot lose since he cannot die.

You mean Triforce of Power. :P Though am positive Meta Knight wouldn't be able to wield the Master Sword even if he found it, Link is the only one who can wield it being chosen by the gods and being a true hero.
#16 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

Ganon should win.

Since this is most likely composite Ganon, he has all shown powers including teleportation, summoning monsters, and being able to move freely between the normal world and the Twilight realm.

Plus the Triforce of Courage gives it's possessor immortality unless sealed by the Master Sword so honestly, unless Meta Knight is given a master sword, Ganon cannot lose since he cannot die.

You mean Triforce of Power. :P Though am positive Meta Knight wouldn't be able to wield the Master Sword even if he found it, Link is the only one who can wield it being chosen by the gods and being a true hero.

Lol yeah, Triforce of Power.

And the only advantage Meta Knight would have is flight and speed I think. Other than that, Ganon has too much power. Plus I'm not sure about the specifics, but he can posses people as well.

#17 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

Meta Knight can teleport him to a distant place in space.

Then what? Ganon's just floating around as he did in the final cutscene of Ocarina of Time. He hasn't lost unless a non-lethal BFR somehow counts as a win in a fight to the death.

@Wolfrazer said:

Am pretty sure Silver Arrows have been retconned and the only thing that can actually defeat Ganon is the Master Sword. Aside from the two games with Silver Arrows, they haven't been shown at all, its always been just the Master Sword that has defeated Ganon. Which if you look at it makes sense, the Master Sword is evil's bane and has the power to vanquish evil...so why bother having silver arrows if the Master Sword can destroy evil and more?(Protection from curses, transformations, etc)

The Master Sword never really killed Ganon until the Oracle games despite being introduced a few games earlier in the series. The Master Sword hurt Ganon enough for a Silver Arrow to finish the job. Kind of like chopping the limbs off a vampire. You won't kill the vampire until you drive a stake through the heart, or in Ganon's case, a Silver Arrow. The Master Sword possibly killed Ganon in Wind Waker depending on which side of the debate you are on (was he sealed in a rock or killed? There's no confirmation of either). So really the only confirmed kill on Ganon from the Master Sword is the linked ending of the Oracle games. I'll mention that it probably would have killed Ganon in Twilight Princess had Zant not beaten Link to the punch.

The problem is the Silver Arrows are an instrument of killing Ganon and the series has, for some unknown reason, chosen to move on to sealing Ganon in order to win. Which does make some sense as Ganon constantly reincarnates so just destroying a physical shell isn't a permanent solution.

... I did not mean to go off on such a tirade. My apologies.

#18 Edited by Wolfrazer (6501 posts) - - Show Bio
@MorganFreeman:  I never said kill, just defeat. As for why sealing instead of just outright killing Ganon? Well lets look at it this way, Ganon for some reason is important to the Zeldaverse, given that he has the Triforce of Power weither he steals it or it is just outright given to him by the gods. I tend to look at it like he is the Yang to Link's Ying, Link need Ganon and Ganon needs Link, much in the same way Batman needs Joker and Joker needs Batman. Besides Ganondorf is one of(or the) greatest Nintendo antagonists of all time, you can't just go and off a great and loved character like that. 
 
So ya my theory, is that he is important to the Zeldaverse just as Link and Zelda are given all 3 are chosen by the gods to wield immense power. Eventually Ganon will return, its only a matter of not if but when.