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#1 Posted by Swao (88 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle distance: 100 m

Battle setting: Gotham
Victory conditions: Win by death or KO.
Random encounter.
Who will prevail?
#2 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio


 
An easily at that.
#3 Edited by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to go with Shocker. Shocker has had upgrades to his suit that give him the edge, imo. Plus, if we include Shocker's feats/abilities from Peter Parker:Spiderman then he would most certainly win. Dude was able to fly and create earthquakes, not to mention Spidey couldn't even hurt him.

#4 Posted by Cypher's Gambit (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit. He is NewSon

#5 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit would blow up his suit.
#6 Posted by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
" Gambit would blow up his suit. "
There's no way for sure to know whether Gambit could blow up his suit or not since Shocker hasn't faced that type of energy blast before, but he's stopped punches from Spidey and sniper bullets.

Shocker's reflexes are quicker than Gambit's anyway, he's hit Spider-man multiple times.
#7 Posted by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:


I highly doubt Shocker is more agile, quicker and more reflexes than Gambit.

And Gambit could charge any nonliving thing, including Shocker's suit.

 . "

First Gambit would have to be able to get close enough to Shocker to try and charge his suit, which would be extremely hard to do because of: 1) Shocker's not just gonna stand there, 2) Shocker's suit vibrates anything off of him (vibrated away a sniper bullet for gosh sake). Additionally, Shocker could potentially blast away Gambits charged projectiles, and not to mention he can fire off vibroblasts much faster than Gambit can charge things, whereas Shocker could probably take a few shots from charged projectiles Gambit only needs to be hit by one powerful blast to be taken out of commission.
#8 Posted by Captain_Justice95 (399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince CortSether said:
"I'm going to go with Shocker. Shocker has had upgrades to his suit that give him the edge, imo. Plus, if we include Shocker's feats/abilities from Peter Parker:Spiderman then he would most certainly win. Dude was able to fly and create earthquakes, not to mention Spidey couldn't even hurt him. "


 

shocker gets his head blown off
#9 Posted by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain_Justice95: No.
#10 Posted by Captain_Justice95 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

gambit is a stud. shocker loses to web balls, try getting a exploding card in the face
#11 Posted by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain_Justice95 said:
" gambit is a stud. shocker loses to web balls, try getting a exploding card in the face "
Shocker has defeated Spider-man quite a few times actually, and with his upgrades he's a team buster. Gambit loses 7/10.
#12 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio


After seeing some of this, I absolutely had to post.

 

"There's no way for sure to know whether Gambit could blow up his suit or not since Shocker hasn't faced that type of energy blast before, but he's stopped punches from Spidey and sniper bullets."

 

Bullet, not bullets.  His vibroshield blocked one and then he questioned if his armor could withstand another, so he fled. 



"Shocker's reflexes are quicker than Gambit's anyway, he's hit Spider-man multiple times"

 

Being able to hit Spider-Man doesn't mean he has reflexes faster than Gambit.  Gambit has blocked entire clips of bullets, full on projectile assaults from Riptide, and even caught an explosive round and tossed it back.  Gambit has Herman STOMPED when it comes to reflexes.  Sure, Herman can tag Spider-Man, but it usually takes at least a couple of shots first, and sometimes they're only close range. 

 

Gambit has better reflexes than Shocker.  It's not speculation, it's fact.

 

 

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#13 Edited by Prince CortSether (2301 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
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After seeing some of this, I absolutely had to post.

"There's no way for sure to know whether Gambit could blow up his suit or not since Shocker hasn't faced that type of energy blast before, but he's stopped punches from Spidey and sniper bullets."

Bullet, not bullets.  His vibroshield blocked one and then he questioned if his armor could withstand another, so he fled.

"Shocker's reflexes are quicker than Gambit's anyway, he's hit Spider-man multiple times"

Being able to hit Spider-Man doesn't mean he has reflexes faster than Gambit.  Gambit has blocked entire clips of bullets, full on projectile assaults from Riptide, and even caught an explosive round and tossed it back.  Gambit has Herman STOMPED when it comes to reflexes.  Sure, Herman can tag Spider-Man, but it usually takes at least a couple of shots first, and sometimes they're only close range. 

Gambit has better reflexes than Shocker.  It's not speculation, it's fact.

"

Alrighty, I stand corrected then. But still, I'm not inclined to think Gambit would be able to get close enough to Shocker without getting blasted. All it will take for Shocker to win is one head-on hit from Shocker's blasts but Gambit would have to hit Shocker's suit with more than one charge to put him down, imo. Gambit's physical attacks shouldn't be able to hurt Shocker at all so he's really only able to rely on charges and Shocker should be fast enough to hit him before then. Heck, couldn't he even destroy Gambit's projectiles with his own vibroblasts?
#14 Edited by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio


 

Alrighty, I stand corrected then.

 Good to know :)

 

 

But still, I'm not inclined to think Gambit would be able to get close enough to Shocker without getting blasted.

There are numerous factors.  Gambit's agility can help him dodge a few at best, but if there's no cover he simply can't close that gap, therefore making this spite.  But assuming there's cover/alt paths (alleys, rooftops, etc) at his disposal, Gambit is smart enough and has the skill to get within a good range and unleash a barrage of cards, one which I believe would be too great for Shocker's vibroshield to handle.

 

All it will take for Shocker to win is one head one hit from Shocker's blasts but Gambit would have to hit Shocker's suit with more than one charge to put him down, imo. Gambit's physical attacks shouldn't be able to hurt Shocker at all so he's really only able to rely on charges and Shocker should be fast enough to hit him before then. Heck, couldn't he even destroy Gambit's projectiles with his own vibroblasts?

    

 

 

Not even a headshot, a bodyshot would definitely dish out major damage to Gambit.  Yes, Shocker has the potential to destroy incoming projectiles, but considering Gambit normally throws more than one, I find it unlikely him being able to destroy all before they reach him.  I believe I addressed the rest above.

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#15 Posted by Jake Fury (18406 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
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After seeing some of this, I absolutely had to post.

 

"There's no way for sure to know whether Gambit could blow up his suit or not since Shocker hasn't faced that type of energy blast before, but he's stopped punches from Spidey and sniper bullets."

 

Bullet, not bullets.  His vibroshield blocked one and then he questioned if his armor could withstand another, so he fled. 



"Shocker's reflexes are quicker than Gambit's anyway, he's hit Spider-man multiple times"

 

Being able to hit Spider-Man doesn't mean he has reflexes faster than Gambit.  Gambit has blocked entire clips of bullets, full on projectile assaults from Riptide, and even caught an explosive round and tossed it back.  Gambit has Herman STOMPED when it comes to reflexes.  Sure, Herman can tag Spider-Man, but it usually takes at least a couple of shots first, and sometimes they're only close range. 

 

Gambit has better reflexes than Shocker.  It's not speculation, it's fact.

 

 

"

Fan-Boy. :P
#16 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

Shouldn't you be protecting your lawn?
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#17 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

And with that said, I shall now vanish back to the Ledger!
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#18 Posted by Jake Fury (18406 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm at work in the blue jean overalls factory.

#19 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit is much more clever. He can slip a card or other small object without the dude even seeing it. it would blow up when he doesnt even expect it and its over.
#20 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10327 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning towards Gambit for the win.

#21 Posted by Darkerman (516 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit, but if Shocker manages to get the jump on Gambit and blasts him at full force Gambit's dead.

#22 Posted by Renny (507 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit

#23 Posted by Joey809 (253 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man helps Shocker, the two double team Gambit for the win :)

#24 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm actually going to give this to shocker 5.5/10 ... good fight IMO.

#25 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

People are leaving out Gambits cards, he dosn't have to get close to win he can use his projectiles to hurt Shocker.

#26 Posted by Theodore (3445 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit

#27 Posted by charlieboy (7159 posts) - - Show Bio

he can just 52 card pick up like he did to gladiator.

#28 Posted by crabtree (1619 posts) - - Show Bio

draw

#29 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

People are leaving out Gambits cards, he dosn't have to get close to win he can use his projectiles to hurt Shocker.

Why would you assume people are leaving out his cards ... when that is his staple move? That is like saying people are forgetting about cyclop's eye beam ...

It is just shocker is no cab driver ... and I know how powerful gambit is ... he is alpha or omega level potential ... I just think that shocker has the ability to dodge and keep gambit at bay long enough to get a hit in and take him out ... just as he hits spiderman. Not to mention his upgrades do help him ...

#30 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008: I said that because people were saying Shocker would blast him before he gets close enough, also what makes you think Shocker will be able to dodge? he's never dodged anything from what i've seen.

#31 Posted by Zauberin (4331 posts) - - Show Bio

That guy from months ago made a pretty alright case.

#32 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@sandiego008: I said that because people were saying Shocker would blast him before he gets close enough, also what makes you think Shocker will be able to dodge? he's never dodged anything from what i've seen.

That's just saying Shocker has better range, not disregarding Gambit's cards.

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#33 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

shocker wins.

#34 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit.

#35 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Gambit.

Why?

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

shocker wins.

Why?

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#36 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Gambit.

Why?

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

shocker wins.

Why?

Well it depends. Shocker's suit and gauntlets make him highly resistant to physical damage. Gambit's kinetic energy might not be enough to KO him. And his new gauntlets would allow farther range attacks. However when Gambit was tempoararily at full power though he has had cosmic level abilities.

#37 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Well people were saying Gambit wont be able to get close enough, but he dosn't have to get close.

#38 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: The point is merely that Shocker has better range.

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#39 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

#40 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@acer51: The point is merely that Shocker has better range.

But Gambit has better range.

#41 Edited by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: This is where I'd normally play along and ask why in an attempt to get users to elaborate more and improve discussions, but no. As a huge fan of both, you can't prove that Gambit can effectively throw a card at a greater distance than Shocker can fire his vibro-blasts. Nothing at all immediately comes to my mind that would justify this.

But by all means, please feel free if you have clear evidence that shows Gambit can throw a card more effectively and at a longer distance than Shocker can simply aim and fire with his blasts.

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#42 Edited by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@acer51: This is where I'd normally play along and ask why in an attempt to get users to elaborate more and improve discussions, but no. As a huge fan of both, you can't prove that Gambit can effectively throw a card at a greater distance than Shocker can fire his vibro-blasts. Nothing at all immediately comes to my mind that would justify this.

But by all means, please feel free if you have clear evidence that shows Gambit can throw a card more effectively and at a longer distance than Shocker can simply aim and fire with his blasts.

Sorry i spoke in error, what i meant to say is Gambit has greater accuracy.

#43 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: It's cool. I'd actually agree with you on that one. While Shocker eventually tagging Spider-Man certainly is impressive, it comes down to feats, and Remy has more feats that prove he can be precise with his accuracy when he needs to be. That said, I think it'll be a huge challenge for him to dodge Shocker's blast for an extended period of time.

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#44 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@acer51: It's cool. I'd actually agree with you on that one. While Shocker eventually tagging Spider-Man certainly is impressive, it comes down to feats, and Remy has more feats that prove he can be precise with his accuracy when he needs to be. That said, I think it'll be a huge challenge for him to dodge Shocker's blast for an extended period of time.

Well Shocker isn't known for his aim, when he fights he just blasts in your general direction and doesn't seem to care for precision, but the raw force of his Gauntlets make up for that.

I agree Shockers blasts wont be so easy to dodge, but he'll have plenty of cover in the streets of Gotham. Also his Luck powers will give him a considerable dodging bonus.

#45 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: Luck powers? I believe you're thinking of Longshot.

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#46 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@acer51: Luck powers? I believe you're thinking of Longshot.

An error on my part again.

He has Hypnotizing powers i thought they were Luck powers because he sometimes calls them that.

Hypnotizing powers will come in handy too though.

#47 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: That's really only something he can casually use on women. He's not going to have a heartfelt moment with Shocker where they gaze into each other's eyes. ;)

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#48 Posted by Sherlock (7255 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:

@acer51: That's really only something he can casually use on women. He's not going to have a heartfelt moment with Shocker where they gaze into each other's eyes. ;)

You never know now do ya
#49 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: lol but on-topic, Gambit will be able to dodge enough to get hits on shocker.

How will Shocker stand up to Kinetic blasts by the way?

#50 Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@k4tzm4n: lol but on-topic, Gambit will be able to dodge enough to get hits on shocker.

How will Shocker stand up to Kinetic blasts by the way?

Answer to both: disputable.

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