Gambit from the comics Vs Windu from the movies.
Morals off.
Location: Tattonie.
Random encounter.
Gambit Vs Mace Windu
Mace Windu. Respect to Gambit but I think Mace wins easily.
Firstly, Gambits staff would be useless to a lightsaber.
Secondly, Mace Windu can match Gambit's agility.
Thirdly, in the end Mace has the ultimate weapon. The Force
If you don't believe me watch this.
Gambit. Just kinetic charge the lightsaber and then you have episode III all over again except instead of been force lightning thrown out of a window. Gambit would just dropkick Mace out the window.
No.
Gambit. Just kinetic charge the lightsaber and then you have episode III all over again except instead of been force lightning thrown out of a window. Gambit would just dropkick Mace out the window.
Mace destroys Gambit. This is spite.
Mace doesnt even have to get close. Tell me why he cant just fling Gambit thousands of feet into the air and be done with it?
@butterdaman000: Spite my ass. Is seems you failed to forgot this is MOVIE windu vs COMIC gambit.
MOVIE Windu was not impressive at all. This guy drops his lightsaber fighting a Rhino.
Second of all, MOVIE Windu isnt that fast to stop COMIC Gambit's sleight of hand. Windu can use the force to hrow around Gambit but it seems that MOVIE Windu lacks something called Situation Awareness. If he can't even sense a screaming overrated quack who is about to cut off his hand, how is he gonna sense a kinectic charged card right by his foot waiting to explode?
Third, MOVIE Windu is that not good to throw COMIC Gambit thousands of feet in the air.
Fourth, Gambit throw his cards too fast for MOVIE Windu to stop them with the force.
Fifth, MOVIE Windu barely held own against Jango who is like just a regular guy. With Gambit's h2h, speed , dexterity, and athleticism MOVIE Windu would get stomped.
Congratulations you read the OP a lot more carefully than I. No need to get your panties in a bunch though.
I take back what I said about this being spite.
Gotta admit, most of the movie version of the SW characters aren't a s powerfull as people think they are, it's in the books where they really shine. In the end, it is a movie character vs a comic character, not saying comic character auto wins, but in cases like this, people will automatically think Mace Windu, the bad ass from clone wars, the comics, novels, but no, it's just Mace from the Movies, and his feats, though not bad, don't stack up any where as close as those to his comic/books counterpart.
@buttersdaman000: I wasn't worked up but i wanted show how it wasn't spite.
Yea. Force powers make it a stomp. But could Gambits charged staff...... block a lightsaber ?Hard to answer. But seeing how it has the ability to take down a house I would imagine so.
And for the "he can match his agility"...windu did not show super human agility in the movie.
Why is this a spite thread?
Gambit throws a card in Windu's mouth and makes it explode * KABOOM!*. Gambit FTW!!Mace could jut repel it with the force.
@Fetts: I loved that one.
@Belphegor said:Jedi telekinesis is shaky at best.Gambit throws a card in Windu's mouth and makes it explode * KABOOM!*. Gambit FTW!!Mace could jut repel it with the force.
@Fetts: I loved that one.
I've never seen a Jedi use it for more than a couple of seconds at best...then after that he doesn't use it for some odd reasons in situations that could help him.
@cascadeking09 said:They never have to. Yoda and Dooku were flinging all sorts of stuff at each other. They mostly only use it to retrieve their light saver or jump in high places and can also be used sort of like a 6th sense.@Belphegor said:Jedi telekinesis is shaky at best. I've never seen a Jedi use it for more than a couple of seconds at best...then after that he doesn't use it for some odd reasons in situations that could help him.Gambit throws a card in Windu's mouth and makes it explode * KABOOM!*. Gambit FTW!!Mace could jut repel it with the force.
@Fetts: I loved that one.
@Kallarkz said:Then that would be evidence used in a Yoda and Dooku fight though sir. Though i do appreciate the mentioning it does not apply here. Since Windu himself was not seen doing this.@cascadeking09 said:They never have to. Yoda and Dooku were flinging all sorts of stuff at each other. They mostly only use it to retrieve their light saver or jump in high places and can also be used sort of like a 6th sense.@Belphegor said:Jedi telekinesis is shaky at best. I've never seen a Jedi use it for more than a couple of seconds at best...then after that he doesn't use it for some odd reasons in situations that could help him.Gambit throws a card in Windu's mouth and makes it explode * KABOOM!*. Gambit FTW!!Mace could jut repel it with the force.
@Fetts: I loved that one.
@Kallarkz: Yoda's old and frail. Next to him Mace is the most skilled jedi, why wouldn't he be able to do it? Why wouldn't anyone be able to do it, it didn't seem to be super high level force they were just fighting eachother without using light sabers.Not all Jedis have the same level of power.
Age is but a small factor in how much a Jedi is able to do. And Yoda is said to be the most skilled at a light saber. And none have shown the feats of telekinesis that Yoda showed.
And battle forum rules have us use clear examples of what a character can do...assumptions that he can do something because another can don't really factor.
in episode 2, movie windu was fast enough to deflect laser fire from multiple targets, avoid getting burned by a flame thrower at point blank distance, and jump off a 50ft ledge (while deflecting more laser fire on the way down). he then proceeded to deflect almost point blank laser fire from jango and 1 shot him. i don't see how that's considered barely holding his own.@butterdaman000: Spite my ass. Is seems you failed to forgot this is MOVIE windu vs COMIC gambit.
MOVIE Windu was not impressive at all. This guy drops his lightsaber fighting a Rhino.
Second of all, MOVIE Windu isnt that fast to stop COMIC Gambit's sleight of hand. Windu can use the force to hrow around Gambit but it seems that MOVIE Windu lacks something called Situation Awareness. If he can't even sense a screaming overrated quack who is about to cut off his hand, how is he gonna sense a kinectic charged card right by his foot waiting to explode?
Third, MOVIE Windu is that not good to throw COMIC Gambit thousands of feet in the air.
Fourth, Gambit throw his cards too fast for MOVIE Windu to stop them with the force.
Fifth, MOVIE Windu barely held own against Jango who is like just a regular guy. With Gambit's h2h, speed , dexterity, and athleticism MOVIE Windu would get stomped.
@cascadeking09 said:Because they hardly ever use it that way. That's pretty much the only moment we ever see Yoda do that, that time and at the end of episode 3. It's not just an assumption. It's not like only the most powerful jedi can't move cards out of the way. The only time the ever really use the force that way is to retrieve their light saber like I said before.@Kallarkz: Yoda's old and frail. Next to him Mace is the most skilled jedi, why wouldn't he be able to do it? Why wouldn't anyone be able to do it, it didn't seem to be super high level force they were just fighting eachother without using light sabers.Not all Jedis have the same level of power. Age is but a small factor in how much a Jedi is able to do. And Yoda is said to be the most skilled at a light saber. And none have shown the feats of telekinesis that Yoda showed.And battle forum rules have us use clear examples of what a character can do...assumptions that he can do something because another can don't really factor.
@ShiZZmAhh: Lol someone hasn't really payed attention to the movie. The rhino thing caught Mace while his attention was on something else entirely.
@Kallarkz said:My point exactly =). Hence why i say their telekinesis is shaky at best. They could use it in a number of situations that would assist them in a fight but they only use it in bursts.@cascadeking09 said:Because they hardly ever use it that way. That's pretty much the only moment we ever see Yoda do that, that time and at the end of episode 3. It's not just an assumption. It's not like only the most powerful jedi can't move cards out of the way. The only time the ever really use the force that way is to retrieve their light saber like I said before.@Kallarkz: Yoda's old and frail. Next to him Mace is the most skilled jedi, why wouldn't he be able to do it? Why wouldn't anyone be able to do it, it didn't seem to be super high level force they were just fighting eachother without using light sabers.Not all Jedis have the same level of power. Age is but a small factor in how much a Jedi is able to do. And Yoda is said to be the most skilled at a light saber. And none have shown the feats of telekinesis that Yoda showed.And battle forum rules have us use clear examples of what a character can do...assumptions that he can do something because another can don't really factor.
And I could easily see Gambits staff breaking a Light Saber in two. Weve seen many be broken by things much less powerful than what Gambit can turn his staff into.
i also have to side with you on windu just force pushing the cards away.
@Kallarkz: i understand that windu wasn't shown using that ability during the film, but you also can't assume that he was incapable of doing it. a case can be made because lower level jedis were using such abilities.
@cascadeking09: yes, fortressofthemoon wasn't paying attention. the fact that windu was dealing with all this other stuff during the battle, and jango still couldn't do anything to him says something.I'm not debating whether or not he could move cards away. I know he is able to do so.
i also have to side with you on windu just force pushing the cards away.
@Kallarkz: i understand that windu wasn't shown using that ability during the film, but you also can't assume that he was incapable of doing it. a case can be made because lower level jedis were using such abilities.
What i am saying is is that Jedis are not known for using telekinesis at every single opportune moment.
Yoda can lift objects that weigh at least a ton. So when hes fighting why doesn't he just lift things into the air and drop them in the air.
If Gambit were to throw a barrage of cards at Windu i can see him deflecting it but not every single time.
IMO, i think the fight would go something like this. they start at a distance. gambit charges a barrage of cards and flings them at windu. not knowing what the cards do, mace instinctively jumps out of the way. mace lands and feels the shockwave from the explosion at his back. mace continues to charge as gambit charges another set of cards, and flings them at windu. knowing that the cards explode, windu force pushes the cards back at gambit. shocked at what windu is doing, gambit is barely able to dodge the cards as they explode near him. shaken, gambit staggers back up to his feet, but to his disbelief mace has already closed the distance. gambit readies his staff, but its too late. mace proceeds to "jango" him.
@ShiZZmAhh said:That's all I was saying he would do. I wasn't trying to argue that he would lift anything that weigh several thousand pounds and just drops it on his head or anything, just that he could deflect a barrage of exploding cards.@cascadeking09: yes, fortressofthemoon wasn't paying attention. the fact that windu was dealing with all this other stuff during the battle, and jango still couldn't do anything to him says something.I'm not debating whether or not he could move cards away. I know he is able to do so. What i am saying is is that Jedis are not known for using telekinesis at every single opportune moment. Yoda can lift objects that weigh at least a ton. So when hes fighting why doesn't he just lift things into the air and drop them in the air. If Gambit were to throw a barrage of cards at Windu i can see him deflecting it but not every single time.
i also have to side with you on windu just force pushing the cards away.
@Kallarkz: i understand that windu wasn't shown using that ability during the film, but you also can't assume that he was incapable of doing it. a case can be made because lower level jedis were using such abilities.
The OP says "movie Windu." I feel that movie Windu wins after a tough fight. However, EU Windu is spite.
Movies Windu. Not EU.
Gambit, he could probably just throw his entire deck and blow up everything. Or just charge the Saber with his eyes.
How is Windu gonna do anything if his Saber's gone?
Gambit's kinda gained that power to know just charge up stuff with his eyes now. He did it with a plate and other stuff.
Also, Gambit is much more agile, he has dodged point blank machine gun fire, caught a bullet, delected lasers, is much better at hand to hand, and is more versatile.
@cascadeking09: So did I. Lil cheesy but the action was awesome.Yeah it's the animation that makes it seem cheesy.
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