" @American Dragon: Because......you know that the meddling blue boyscout in tights will intervene and stop the fight? he thinks he owns the city or something. ;-P "Well you know, Someone has to Police these two in this one, so no innocent bystanders or Lois Lane get hurt : )
"Actually, Havok can fly without a jetpack, if he concentrates the energy within him to his lower extremities, he can fly at short-bursts, like Cannonball, but not for a prolonged amount of time."
true dat true dat, that's his hood.... that's super m.a.n nizzle turff lol =)
" @jojjimbo said:" Because......you know that the meddling blue boyscout in tights will intervene and stop the fight? he thinks he owns the city or something. ;-P "He runs Metropolis. "
I'm going with Havok. He'll just hit Gambit with a huge amount of energy, which Gambit will only be able to avoid for a very limited amount of time. Havok can simply disintegrate/melt/burn anything Gambit throws at him before it gets anywhere near him. He can also just bury Gambit in rubble. Gambit's best bet to win this fight is to get in close, and even that is inadvisable against Havok, who can radiate energy in all directions.
" Why a very limited amount of time? He's got tons of skyscrapers to use for cover. "Those skyscrapers are going to get decimated by huge energy blasts, turning them into falling rubble and debris. Hell, Havok can unleash energy on a level that Gambit might be unable to dodge at all.
" Yeah, if he absorbed a sun first. (This is also another reason I hate bloodlusted battles. Because Gambit would beat Havok in the comics in a city. Here? People say Havok's gonna demolish buildings, killing hundreds.) "He doesn't need to absorb a sun first. Havok has always been capable of destruction on a pretty massive scale. As for bloodlust, I can't really do anything about that, it's how the battle is set up. Gambit might be able to beat Havok in comics in a city. There are way too many factors there, including writers, to say what would happen in a comic. As for Havok killing hundreds, the OP doesn't specify whether Metropolis is inhabited or not, so saying he would kill hundreds is just an assumption. One I didn't make.
" @Zoom said:
" I don't see Gambit blowing up buildings for any reason here.What about Havok though? "
Havok is always in a state of absorbing energy (Sun, Radiation, Heat, etc).
I vote for Havok, just because his mutant power is far greater than Gambit and I doubt he'll give Gambit an opportunity to close the gap for him to get in range for H2H. I am not undermining Gambit's mutant power, but Havok is a beast. Gambit (no Death or New Son/Sun) is toned down from his real capabilities.
Havok 6/10. Not a curb stomp as most people say because the Cajun is cunning, specially with all these buildings around.
I'm just saying that taking away bloodlusted doesn't decrease Gambit's options. Sure, Havok can blow up buildings left and right but I don't think that'll stop Gambit from getting away and once they can't see each other, I think Gambit is a lot more likely to get a KO on Havok than vice versa because Havok isn't very stealthy. "Sure it does because it limits what he can do with his cards.Gambit's stealth isn't that good in a bloodlust situation Havok can fire on him all day until he hits the target.Gambit isn't that fast nor is he that agile or stealthy to avoid it long enough to do anything.
" Gambit isn't gonna take a run at Havok. He's gonna run away and try to ambush him since Havok will go down to one kinetic card/staff hit. Its just a matter of making sure it hits when Havok isn't ready for it so that he doesn't nuke the cards or bring up his temporary force field. "Running away isn't going to help him either.He's not that fast.
" @Zoom said:
" Gambit isn't gonna take a run at Havok. He's gonna run away and try to ambush him since Havok will go down to one kinetic card/staff hit. Its just a matter of making sure it hits when Havok isn't ready for it so that he doesn't nuke the cards or bring up his temporary force field. "Running away isn't going to help him either.He's not that fast. "
Well sorry you hate blood lusted, but I put that there so both are not limited to what they can do, it`s just my style, as for Havok killing hundreds well that can remain open for debate, but if Havok does actually kill hundreds, that does not mean that he kills Gambit.
" Yeah, if he absorbed a sun first. (This is also another reason I hate bloodlusted battles. Because Gambit would beat Havok in the comics in a city. Here? People say Havok's gonna demolish buildings, killing hundreds.) "
I don't think it would be easy for either of them but Havok has the power advantages, which I think gives him the win. I am curious if a bloodlusted Havok could release an omni-directional blast to incinerate everything in a certain radius that could potentially include Gambit or level buildings on top of him (depending on the distance between them at the start of the fight). Normally I would go with Gambit since he is more cunning, is probably faster and is a better fighter but I only see him taking this if he can do this up close.
" Why does Gambit need to get up close? I mean, sure he wins a hand to hand fight but who really thinks Havok can tank an exploding card? "Gambit needs to get to a closer range to be able to throw his cards and hit Havok effectively. You have to remember that he can kinetically charge the cards but their weight remains the same. I haven't read any issue where Gambit "sniped" -for the lack of better term- an enemy from a far distance with his cards. Now, pretend if Gambit is using marbles, his range will now increase as the marbles have more weight.
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