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#1 Edited by Gremlin From Kremlin (2932 posts) - - Show Bio

VS
 
AND
 
The battle is in an open field, at 12:00. 
Who wins and why?
 
1. Morals on.
2. Morals off.
#2 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2932 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Gambit blows them up easily.

#3 Posted by Renny (507 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit
#4 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil can do it by himself, seriously though. Whats with Gambits over rated fighting ability, he's good, but not on par with the likes of DD, at least not as far as I know

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#5 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil is awesome, love him, but Gambit is just out of his league. He is probably not quite as skilled a fighter, but he is skilled non the less. FActor in his amazing agility, and his mutant power to blow things up, and he should be the clear winner here. Patriot is non factor.
#6 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
Daredevil is awesome, love him, but Gambit is just out of his league. He is probably not quite as skilled a fighter, but he is skilled non the less. FActor in his amazing agility, and his mutant power to blow things up, and he should be the clear winner here. Patriot is non factor.
What?!?
 
Daredevils agility is second only to Spider-Man, and thats saying a lot for a guy with no physical super human attributes.
 
Daredevils acrobatic prowess is also greater than Gambits, and DD dodges projectiles for breakfast, Gambit has nothing on him
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#7 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil is peak human. Gambit is superhuman levels beyond human. Isn't that right?
#8 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6175 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:



                    @Edgeworth_11 said:



                    Daredevil is awesome, love him, but Gambit is just out of his league. He is probably not quite as skilled a fighter, but he is skilled non the less. FActor in his amazing agility, and his mutant power to blow things up, and he should be the clear winner here. Patriot is non factor.

                   

               
What?!?  Daredevils agility is second only to Spider-Man, and thats saying a lot for a guy with no physical super human attributes.   Daredevils acrobatic prowess is also greater than Gambits, and DD dodges projectiles for breakfast, Gambit has nothing on him

                   

               

Both have phenomenal reflex and acrobatic feats accredited to their name. Gambit's feats though are no less impressive than DD's (catching bullets and all that good stuff). So on the acrobatic and relfex front, they can be called same to similar based off feats. If it came down to hand to hand DD would school Gambit for sure.  
 
I think people are giving Gambit more credit because of his mutant power and how he uses it to compliment his acrobatics and superhuman reflexes. He can charge the terrain while on the move, and his area of effect explosions are nearly impossible to dodge. His blasts pack quite a punch. So while DD can avoid direct hits, short of a superhuman leap (evidenced once by Wolverine who excaped the blast) DD will probably get tagged eventually. 
 
Patriot with the shield should cause problems to this strategem though ... not sure. If this were a city terrain and not a field the outcome would be different because Patriot would play less of a role and this would essentially boil down to Gambit and DD dancing across the rooftops again... 
 
Edited to add: it appears Gambit can chare organic matter now too. One touch can pack as big a punch as Iron Fists now...
#9 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Gambit wins. He is hard to hit and he hits VERY hard.
#10 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil solos.Easily too.

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#11 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil can solo.

#12 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.

What are you on? Gambit just needs to touch him and its over. And he can keep up with Matt since he is even more agile and lets not forget his kinetic powers to charge anything.
#13 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.
@comicdude23 said:
Daredevil can solo.
This is what I've been trying to say.
 
For some strange reason people think Gambits this A1 fighter, He's a great combatant but he's not in DDs league
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#14 Posted by Fetts (4416 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to go with Gambit. His agility and reflexes are superior in my opinion.

#15 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.
What are you on? Gambit just needs to touch him and its over. And he can keep up with Matt since he is even more agile and lets not forget his kinetic powers to charge anything.
The OP doesn't say so morals are off, so they are on.Gambit and Daredevil have history.You may even say they are friends so Gambit may fight him but Gambit won't try to kill him.Which means Gambit will have to fight Daredevil and Patriot the conventional way.Patriot being the person he is will probably fall back and let Matt handle his business.Gambit isn't going to be charging anything.
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#17 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.
What are you on? Gambit just needs to touch him and its over. And he can keep up with Matt since he is even more agile and lets not forget his kinetic powers to charge anything.
Except, he won't touch him. Daredevil's radar sense is above Spider-Man's sense, his sense is very accurate. 
#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio

Also I when was Gambit able to charge things to exploding level with the slightest touch? Aside from when Gambit had the Death Powers..when was he able to just touch things and they explode?

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#19 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@comicdude23 said:
@Edgeworth_11 said:
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.
What are you on? Gambit just needs to touch him and its over. And he can keep up with Matt since he is even more agile and lets not forget his kinetic powers to charge anything.
Except, he won't touch him. Daredevil's radar sense is above Spider-Man's sense, his sense is very accurate. 

Oh please. Daredevil has been hit with far less skillfull and slower fighters. And Gambit doesn;t have to be as skilled as Daredevil in fighting. He can more than make up for that with his powers.
#20 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
@comicdude23 said:
@Edgeworth_11 said:
@Vance Astro said:
Daredevil solos.Easily too.
What are you on? Gambit just needs to touch him and its over. And he can keep up with Matt since he is even more agile and lets not forget his kinetic powers to charge anything.
Except, he won't touch him. Daredevil's radar sense is above Spider-Man's sense, his sense is very accurate. 
Oh please. Daredevil has been hit with far less skillfull and slower fighters. And Gambit doesn;t have to be as skilled as Daredevil in fighting. He can more than make up for that with his powers.
Name them.
#21 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
Also I when was Gambit able to charge things to exploding level with the slightest touch? Aside from when Gambit had the Death Powers..when was he able to just touch things and they explode?

It was in recent issues such as Daken i forget the issue number but I will find the scans. He charged up Daken's arm!!  
He also charged up trees, his own hand to increase his hitting powers to "blow up heads" and Shaw.
#22 Edited by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:

It was in recent issues such as Daken i forget the issue number but I will find the scans. He charged up Daken's arm!!  He also charged up trees, his own hand to increase his hitting powers to "blow up heads" and Shaw.

The question is how long did he charge? Was the instantaneous or did it take a few seconds? Even Iron Fist has to charge is chi a little bit before striking with great power.
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#23 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio

DD has tagged by some chumps in his day, actually so has Gambit, The writers can't make the characters unstoppable, they are going to take it on the chin every now and then.
 
Bottom line, DD is a better fighter, has better reflexes, and his radar sense is definently an advantage, also Gambit as a a master marksman doesn't have any hope as DD regularly doges Bullseyes attacks, Daredevil just tips the scales on this one,
 
DD has held his own against Cap, Wolverine, and other top tier fighters, when has Gambit done anything like this........Name them
 
Name Them

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#24 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

 
This is a start.
#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:

This is a start.
How does DD getting tackled when he wasn't aware it was coming prove your point?
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#26 Posted by Nefarious (18760 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going with Matt here. His agility surpasses Gambit's agility.

#27 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6175 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:


                    DD has tagged by some chumps in his day, actually so has Gambit, The writers can't make the characters unstoppable, they are going to take it on the chin every now and then.  Bottom line, DD is a better fighter, has better reflexes, and his radar sense is definently an advantage, also Gambit as a a master marksman doesn't have any hope as DD regularly doges Bullseyes attacks, Daredevil just tips the scales on this one,  DD has held his own against Cap, Wolverine, and other top tier fighters, when has Gambit done anything like this........Name them  Name Them

                   

               

Gambit has also held his own against Wolverine... he's defeated him along with Daken in the past. And here's a telling image; 
 
 
 
Gambit went tic for tac with DD across the rooftops. Gambit more than held his own. They called it a tie. This is before Gambit's recent amps. And Lebeau wasn't using his mutant power in that tussle. There's alot to say about superhuman reflexes. Just ask Spiderman (zero fighting skills and still he owns top tier fighters more often than not).
#28 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII said:
Gambit has also held his own against Wolverine... he's defeated him along with Daken in the past. And here's a telling image; 
  Gambit went tic for tac with DD across the rooftops. Gambit more than held his own. They called it a tie. This is before Gambit's recent amps. And Lebeau wasn't using his mutant power in that tussle. There's alot to say about superhuman reflexes. Just ask Spiderman (zero fighting skills and still he owns top tier fighters more often than not).
This also happened in Gambit's book where he was proven inferior to a guy (Bullseye) that Daredevil has beaten repeatedly.
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#29 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:
DD has tagged by some chumps in his day, actually so has Gambit, The writers can't make the characters unstoppable, they are going to take it on the chin every now and then.  Bottom line, DD is a better fighter, has better reflexes, and his radar sense is definently an advantage, also Gambit as a a master marksman doesn't have any hope as DD regularly doges Bullseyes attacks, Daredevil just tips the scales on this one,  DD has held his own against Cap, Wolverine, and other top tier fighters, when has Gambit done anything like this........Name them  Name Them

 
You are forgetting that Gambit destoys not only his targets but an area. He makes things blow up. DD doesn't even have to exactly get hit to feel some pain here. Cars exploding wouln't be too pleasant for his super hearing senses either.
#30 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6175 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:


                    @Edgeworth_11 said:



This is a start.

                   

               
How does DD getting tackled when he wasn't aware it was coming prove your point?

                   

               

Knowing DD's radar senses, that comment is kind of contradictory. DD is peak human and can get tagged is a more likely scenario. Gambit is probably too powerful for DD if we take them for what they are on paper. If Gambit uses his mutant abilities to their full potential, it could be a bad night for Murdock.
#31 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
 
 
Gambit's agility. He can more than keep up with DD
#32 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII said:
Knowing DD's radar senses, that comment is kind of contradictory. DD is peak human and can get tagged is a more likely scenario. Gambit is probably too powerful for DD if we take them for what they are on paper. If Gambit uses his mutant abilities to their full potential, it could be a bad night for Murdock.
It's not contradictory it's just a plot device.Spider-Man's Spider-sense doesn't work 100% of the time so why would DD's radar sense?
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#33 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6175 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:


                    @Super_SoldierXII said:
Gambit has also held his own against Wolverine... he's defeated him along with Daken in the past. And here's a telling image; 
  Gambit went tic for tac with DD across the rooftops. Gambit more than held his own. They called it a tie. This is before Gambit's recent amps. And Lebeau wasn't using his mutant power in that tussle. There's alot to say about superhuman reflexes. Just ask Spiderman (zero fighting skills and still he owns top tier fighters more often than not).

                   

               
This also happened in Gambit's book where he was proven inferior to a guy (Bullseye) that Daredevil has beaten repeatedly.

                   

               

Been a while since I flipped through the book, but if I recall, Bullseye got the drop on Lebeau. Which shows what happens if Gambit is stupid and tries to stand and fight toe to toe with these level 6 hand to handers... he would lose. But if he sticks with his acrobatics coupled with superhuman reflexes and ranged mutant abilities, he should spell trouble for most street levelers.
#34 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
 Gambit's agility. He can more than keep up with DD
You can say that but this showing doesn't prove that.Cyclops could probably do this and he's not even known for his acrobatic ability.
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#35 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@cattlebattle said:


                    DD has tagged by some chumps in his day, actually so has Gambit, The writers can't make the characters unstoppable, they are going to take it on the chin every now and then.  Bottom line, DD is a better fighter, has better reflexes, and his radar sense is definently an advantage, also Gambit as a a master marksman doesn't have any hope as DD regularly doges Bullseyes attacks, Daredevil just tips the scales on this one,  DD has held his own against Cap, Wolverine, and other top tier fighters, when has Gambit done anything like this........Name them  Name Them

                   

               

Gambit has also held his own against Wolverine... he's defeated him along with Daken in the past. And here's a telling image; 
 
  Gambit went tic for tac with DD across the rooftops. Gambit more than held his own. They called it a tie. This is before Gambit's recent amps. And Lebeau wasn't using his mutant power in that tussle. There's alot to say about superhuman reflexes. Just ask Spiderman (zero fighting skills and still he owns top tier fighters more often than not).
Like you just said...Gambits been amped since then. So has Daredevil, who has done feats far superior to anything Gambit has done.
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#36 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
@Super_SoldierXII said:
Knowing DD's radar senses, that comment is kind of contradictory. DD is peak human and can get tagged is a more likely scenario. Gambit is probably too powerful for DD if we take them for what they are on paper. If Gambit uses his mutant abilities to their full potential, it could be a bad night for Murdock.
It's not contradictory it's just a plot device.Spider-Man's Spider-sense doesn't work 100% of the time so why would DD's radar sense?

No, you just go owned. He can and will get hit by Gambit. Hard.
#37 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:
Like you just said...Gambits been amped since then. So has Daredevil, who has done feats far superior to anything Gambit has done.
Gambit's fighting skill and Agility haven't been amped so in a physical confrontation Daredevil would own Gambit.DD has beaten better fighters than Gambit so that scan doesn't change anything.Something that was used to try and make Gambit seem credible in his short miniseries isn't law for what will actually happen in a fight between them.
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#38 Posted by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
 Gambit's agility. He can more than keep up with DD
LOL!! people always use this feat....This is when Gambit was kind of new and Lee and Claremont needed a replacement for Longshot.
 
Let me guess the next one is him blocking Forges bullets in X-Men # 3, Has anyone got anything new
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#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
No, you just go owned. He can and will get hit by Gambit. Hard.
I wasn't the one saying DD WOULDN'T get hit so how did I get owned? Make your own points.Don't latch on to someone elses that isn't even right.Writers can't make Daredevil untouchable.Thus IN A COMIC he will always get hit by characters who are slower than him.Has nothing to do with battle forums.
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#40 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
I think DD could solo here >_>
#41 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6175 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:


                    @Super_SoldierXII said:

@cattlebattle said:


                    DD has tagged by some chumps in his day, actually so has Gambit, The writers can't make the characters unstoppable, they are going to take it on the chin every now and then.  Bottom line, DD is a better fighter, has better reflexes, and his radar sense is definently an advantage, also Gambit as a a master marksman doesn't have any hope as DD regularly doges Bullseyes attacks, Daredevil just tips the scales on this one,  DD has held his own against Cap, Wolverine, and other top tier fighters, when has Gambit done anything like this........Name them  Name Them

                   

               

Gambit has also held his own against Wolverine... he's defeated him along with Daken in the past. And here's a telling image; 
 
  Gambit went tic for tac with DD across the rooftops. Gambit more than held his own. They called it a tie. This is before Gambit's recent amps. And Lebeau wasn't using his mutant power in that tussle. There's alot to say about superhuman reflexes. Just ask Spiderman (zero fighting skills and still he owns top tier fighters more often than not).

                   

               
Like you just said...Gambits been amped since then. So has Daredevil, who has done feats far superior to anything Gambit has done.

                   

               

My apologies, but I am unaware of DD's recent amps. Could you please inform me of them? Shadowland DD is no more, Matt is still reeling from those events, but is relatively back to normal Matt Murdock is he not? 
And as to feats that are far superior to Gambit's, I'd like to see a few... pretty sure I could match most ;)
#42 Edited by cattlebattle (12585 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:

@cattlebattle said:

Like you just said...Gambits been amped since then. So has Daredevil, who has done feats far superior to anything Gambit has done.
Gambit's fighting skill and Agility haven't been amped so in a physical confrontation Daredevil would own Gambit.DD has beaten better fighters than Gambit so that scan doesn't change anything.Something that was used to try and make Gambit seem credible in his short miniseries isn't law for what will actually happen in a fight between them.
I've been trying to say this. Gambits a great fighter but not in DDs league. DDs exploded in the past decade, that mofo is like Batman these days. Gambit doesn't stand a chance...I don't know where these guys are getting their ideas from
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#43 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

What would DD do about exploding anything coming at him? Like I said, it doesnt have to hit him to kill him. When I get home I will find some scans.
#44 Edited by Westlife (1798 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:

@Vance Astro said:

Also I when was Gambit able to charge things to exploding level with the slightest touch? Aside from when Gambit had the Death Powers..when was he able to just touch things and they explode?
It was in recent issues such as Daken i forget the issue number but I will find the scans. He charged up Daken's arm!!  He also charged up trees, his own hand to increase his hitting powers to "blow up heads" and Shaw.
When did he beat up wolverine's sun what comic what issue? I just want to know cause I HATE that F*cker.
#45 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
What would DD do about exploding anything coming at him? Like I said, it doesnt have to hit him to kill him. When I get home I will find some scans.
Why would Gambit be trying to kill Daredevil in the first place? Morals are on.
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#46 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:
@Vance Astro said:

@cattlebattle said:

Like you just said...Gambits been amped since then. So has Daredevil, who has done feats far superior to anything Gambit has done.
Gambit's fighting skill and Agility haven't been amped so in a physical confrontation Daredevil would own Gambit.DD has beaten better fighters than Gambit so that scan doesn't change anything.Something that was used to try and make Gambit seem credible in his short miniseries isn't law for what will actually happen in a fight between them.
I've been trying to say this. Gambits a great fighter but not in DDs league. DDs exploded in the past decade, that mofo is like Batman these days. Gambit doesn't stand a chance...I don't know where these guys are getting their ideas from


Gambit doesn't need to match skills with DD when he has a lot more fire power. Daredevil dies even before he has a chance to display his amazing fighting.
#47 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio
@Westlife said:
@Edgeworth_11 said:

@Vance Astro said:

Also I when was Gambit able to charge things to exploding level with the slightest touch? Aside from when Gambit had the Death Powers..when was he able to just touch things and they explode?
It was in recent issues such as Daken i forget the issue number but I will find the scans. He charged up Daken's arm!!  He also charged up trees, his own hand to increase his hitting powers to "blow up heads" and Shaw.
When did he beat up wolverine's sun what comic what issue? I just want to know cause I HATE that F*cker.

I forgot but I will put it up soon! Why the hate for Daken, he is awesome :P hehe
#48 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Westlife said:

When did he beat up wolverine's sun what comic what issue? I just want to know cause I HATE that F*cker.
(Not directed at you) If he did beat Daken it doesn't change anything for this fight.Daken is Wolverine's son.Gambit knows he can use his powers to their full extent and it won't kill Daken.He can't do that with DD.
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#49 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
Gambit doesn't need to match skills with DD when he has a lot more fire power. Daredevil dies even before he has a chance to display his amazing fighting.
The Punisher had alot more firepower against Daredevil and he got KO'd.
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#50 Edited by Westlife (1798 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright. So Gambit doesn't kill them(unless his Death takes over, but OP didn't say that so it probably doesn't). But he does win. If nothing else, he could use the blasts to disorient DD and take him out, then the kid should be relatively easy.


Oh yeah. Plus he has a bo staff.