Gambit vs Connor Hawke
The battle takes place in the London England, Each person starts off in different parts of the city. Gambit has his staff and a deck of cards, Connor has his bow with 30 normal arrows and the usual trick arrows but only one of each. each person has been giving 5 days prep time to study the city and the other persons powers, skills and equpiment but they dont know were the other is, who wins and why?
"New Gambit or the commonly seen version? I feel like Connor wins either way though."I agree, since its in the city and they start in diffrent locations, Connor has the range advantige
I think Conner would benefit greatly from the five days prep. Where as Gambit isnt much of a planner. Although a little known fact about Gambit's suit is that its bullet proof against small arms fire. Meaning that it could protect him from Conner's normal arrows. Still, the five days prep (among some other intangibles) gives Conner the win.
"I think Conner would benefit greatly from the five days prep. Where as Gambit isnt much of a planner. Although a little known fact about Gambit's suit is that its bullet proof against small arms fire. Meaning that it could protect him from Conner's normal arrows. Still, the five days prep (among some other intangibles) gives Conner the win."Bullet proof? maybe, preventing damage through collision, no. Gambit hasnt really shown the ability to be a great range fighter even though he has his cards (but unless he can throw them 50 feet far) i doubt he can win. Connor wins with one of EACH trick arrows.
"I think Conner would benefit greatly from the five days prep. Where as Gambit isnt much of a planner. Although a little known fact about Gambit's suit is that its bullet proof against small arms fire. Meaning that it could protect him from Conner's normal arrows. Still, the five days prep (among some other intangibles) gives Conner the win."I definitely agree that Connor will benefit more from the prep and planning. As for Gambit being arrow-proof, I'm not sure. Maybe it's because his costume was different (though I don't see why this one would be different, you normally don't downgrade when switching costumes), but he was shot then. And I'm also pretty sure the bows and arrows that the Arrow Family pack are better than normal ones. They've gone through body armor before. One instance I can remember is when GA shot Prometheus through his armor and pinned him to a wall. Normal arrows can sometimes get into a bullet proof vest (thicker than Gambit's skintight outfit) because they're heavier than a bullet and sometimes have more momentum even though they're slower so I think Connor could do it.
Connor is also an amazing hand to hand fighter lets not forget that in fact he is one of the best in DCU after the bat family but DC never really show this.
"Gambler said:Nice. But thats not the uniform I'm talking about. Its this one. I'll try and find the scan which states as much."I think Conner would benefit greatly from the five days prep. Where as Gambit isnt much of a planner. Although a little known fact about Gambit's suit is that its bullet proof against small arms fire. Meaning that it could protect him from Conner's normal arrows. Still, the five days prep (among some other intangibles) gives Conner the win."I definitely agree that Connor will benefit more from the prep and planning. As for Gambit being arrow-proof, I'm not sure. Maybe it's because his costume was different (though I don't see why this one would be different, you normally don't downgrade when switching costumes), but he was shot then. And I'm also pretty sure the bows and arrows that the Arrow Family pack are better than normal ones. They've gone through body armor before. One instance I can remember is when GA shot Prometheus through his armor and pinned him to a wall. Normal arrows can sometimes get into a bullet proof vest (thicker than Gambit's skintight outfit) because they're heavier than a bullet and sometimes have more momentum even though they're slower so I think Connor could do it.
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But I agree with what your saying. That Conner's arrows could probably get past his armor anyway
"Connor is also an amazing hand to hand fighter lets not forget that in fact he is one of the best in DCU after the bat family but DC never really show this."Who forgot? And actually, he's most likely better than the majority of the bat family, with Cassandra Cain the only one on or above his level. Maybe Batman on a good day.
Gambler said:
Nice. But thats not the uniform I'm talking about. Its this one. I'll try and find the scan which states as much.I know it's not the right costume, said something about that in my post.
But I agree with what your saying. That Conner's arrows could probably get past his armor anyway
Oh I see. I dont know why it would be different. But one thing that comes to mind is mobility or lack there of. That could be one reason why one outfit is bullet proof while the other isn't.
I know it's not the right costume, said something about that in my post."
Connor is better at range and up close.
However, Gambit has more firepower and is (amazingly, considering his purple costume) stealthier.
Gambit will get the first shot off and even if he misses, he'll hurt Connor pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he put an arrow or two in the cajun, but I believe Gambit to be the eventual winner in this scenario.
"Not with one of each trick arrows (explosives etc.)"You say it as if Gambit can't dodge them.
First arrow maybe, second arrrow... uncommonly, third arrow, strike and seeing how connor only needs one arrow to penatrate someone onto a wall, it will be all it takes.
I highly doubt that.Gambit dodges bullets like its breathing.I'm sure he can dodge arrows and/or the radius of there explosions.
Connor on the other hand will have trouble dodging Gamblers cards.Even if the don't hit on impact,something with a long enough charge is going to be a problem.
"well, he doesnt even need to hit gambit with the explosive one to kill him"In this case yes he does.Gambit is not going to let an explosion catch him.
.... so your saying the impact of a explosion wont be able to keep up with gambits speed/reaction time? doubt it lol
".... so your saying the impact of a explosion wont be able to keep up with gambits speed/reaction time? doubt it lol"Are you serious?First off,don't you think Gambit is use to knowing when to dodge explosions?His main power is dealing with them and knowing when to duck/dive/dodge/jump/dash w/e.
Second.You are completely underestimating Gambit's agility.
Here we see a titanic battle between GA and Solomon Grundy. This is a great feat on GA’s part.
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To me with 5 days, prep this = curbstomp
"Oops... DAMMIT well anyway dont bother posting the real arrow vs gambit..."Cause we all know Gambit wins.
Question is, who finds who first. and since gambit isnt likely to go up skyscrapers and look from a birdseye view, Connor has the preemptive strike and if gambit doesnt see the arrow comming, hes long dead. 2 mile shot range is a dead aim if you ask me
Connor fighting 3 jade monkey who just took out a Kobra base
Agility feat
And the best, fighting Shiva
okay im done, (for now) if anyone comes in and says "gambit wins" then dont bother, if you cant provide evidence.
Alright that helps, so basically if Gambit saw the arrow comming he could dodge it, so still leaves the quesion open who sees who first? as i said Connor usually going up-top should give him the advantage plus the five days prep which gambit would do what with?
The prep is something that I dont know much about with Gambit.I'm sure he can pull something off though.
"Alright that helps, so basically if Gambit saw the arrow comming he could dodge it, so still leaves the quesion open who sees who first? as i said Connor usually going up-top should give him the advantage plus the five days prep which gambit would do what with?"Gambit also goes up top (buildings, houses, churches) to get a better view.
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