Okay, I know there are other threads on this from a long time ago. But I made this so we can get some hardbound opinion on who will win in this encounter. Basically, I've been reading ridiculous comments that Shuma could beat Galactus in any situation and I want to know where this is coming from. Hopefully, we can get a topic with people who actually know what they are talking about that will put an end to the rumor that Shuma has any hope against Galactus.
So in a full on battle with only destroying the other as an option no BFR, Galactus is 100% fed Shuma has the same powers he does within his home dimension, who wins?
Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest...
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma.
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
A fully powered Galactus is the equal to infinity... Shuma Gorath is God in his realm...he is omnipotent from what I know
@Aeschma Deava: Ah... I thought the fight didnt happen in Shuma's dimension, but in a suburb of it kind of... my mistake.
Though it seems Strange needed a heck of a power boost to even do any damage at all, so that should be a testament to Shuma's level of power during the battle ( from what I've read/heard he had magical artifacts of Cyttorak, Agamotto, energy from the living planet Kathulos, and had merged with the incredibly powerful chaos lord Arioch...)
If Galactus could stand against Strange with the same powerups/artifacts, then I would say he could win...
Does anyone have any feats or any instances where Galactus is stated as being fully fed?
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma.
"I'm curious as to why everyone thinks a full fed Galactus would lose when he's supposed to be = to infinity/eternity. Genuinely curious, I'm not trying to be an ass or anything. "
sigh* because Shuma is greator then infinity or eternity in his realm...in his realm the only being that can surpass him are Lt, TOAA, Beyonder In his realm Shuma will make Galactus his bitch
i find this difficult since we really don't know what exactly the galan is capable of with his full powers
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what can eternity do...what could Doom do when he drained Galan and Taa 2 into himself...though I personaly belive Galactus's is using his hunger as a excuse now these days... "isolent mortal...why if I was fully fed I could swat you like a fly"
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake .
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak.
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath .
i find this difficult since we really don't know what exactly the galan is capable of with his full powers
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what can eternity do...what could Doom do when he drained Galan and Taa 2 into himself...though I personaly belive Galactus's is using his hunger as a excuse now these days... "isolent mortal...why if I was fully fed I could swat you like a fly" "
wth? exactly what can eternity do then? what feats do they have that's comparable here
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath . "
In any case, Shuma-Gorath is > Cyttorak.
He's also greater than even a full fed Galactus when he has all his powers at his disposal when in its realm.
Unless someone gives evidence to contradict this. I'm open-minded.
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath . "
In any case, Shuma-Gorath is > Cyttorak. He's also greater than even a full fed Galactus when he has all his powers at his disposal when in its realm. Unless someone gives evidence to contradict this. I'm open-minded. "
What makes you think that fully-fed Galactus cant beat Shuma-Gorath ? Ok , maybe Shuma is omni-potent in his own dimension , but if he takes his ass out of it and battles Galactus , he will lose . And i highly doubt that Shuma Gorath will beat Cyttorak outside his dimension , and he surely wont beat him in the Crimson Cosmos .
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath . "
In any case, Shuma-Gorath is > Cyttorak. He's also greater than even a full fed Galactus when he has all his powers at his disposal when in its realm. Unless someone gives evidence to contradict this. I'm open-minded. "
What makes you think that fully-fed Galactus cant beat Shuma-Gorath ? Ok , maybe Shuma is omni-potent in his own dimension , but if he takes his ass out of it and battles Galactus , he will lose . And i highly doubt that Shuma Gorath will beat Cyttorak outside his dimension , and he surely wont beat him in the Crimson Cosmos . "
The OP was asking who would win between a fully fed Galactus and a Shuma-Gorath that had access to 100% of its power to see who would have greater power when both were at their max.
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath . "
In any case, Shuma-Gorath is > Cyttorak. He's also greater than even a full fed Galactus when he has all his powers at his disposal when in its realm. Unless someone gives evidence to contradict this. I'm open-minded. "
What makes you think that fully-fed Galactus cant beat Shuma-Gorath ? Ok , maybe Shuma is omni-potent in his own dimension , but if he takes his ass out of it and battles Galactus , he will lose . And i highly doubt that Shuma Gorath will beat Cyttorak outside his dimension , and he surely wont beat him in the Crimson Cosmos . "
The OP was asking who would win between a fully fed Galactus and a Shuma-Gorath that had access to 100% of its power to see who would have greater power when both were at their max. "
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma. "
Still, Dr. Strange was overpowered. It didn't matter how much power he collected by all of the magical deities that aided him. If i remember correctly, one of the entities to aid Strange was Cyttorak. Cyttorak defeated Galactus before, yet his power wasn't enough to ban Shuma. "
What the fuck are you talking about ? I cant remember the time Cyttorak battled Shuma-Gorath , because he didnt . I read the issues with him , and i didnt see him fighting the Shuma-Gorath . You must have made a mistake . "
I think he means that part of the enormous prep that Dr.Strange had with him when he fought Shuma-Gorath was magical artifacts of Cyttorak. "
You know , it doesnt mean you can say that Cyttorak wasnt able to stop Shuma-Gorath . Because that was Doctor Strange using his artifacts , not Cyttorak fighting Shuma-Gorath . I think it has a difference when Dr.Strange uses Crimson Bands , or when Cyttorak himself uses them . Still that wasnt a reason to say that Cyttorak didnt manage to stop Shuma , because Cyttorak has never battled Shuma-Gorath . "
In any case, Shuma-Gorath is > Cyttorak. He's also greater than even a full fed Galactus when he has all his powers at his disposal when in its realm. Unless someone gives evidence to contradict this. I'm open-minded. "
What makes you think that fully-fed Galactus cant beat Shuma-Gorath ? Ok , maybe Shuma is omni-potent in his own dimension , but if he takes his ass out of it and battles Galactus , he will lose . And i highly doubt that Shuma Gorath will beat Cyttorak outside his dimension , and he surely wont beat him in the Crimson Cosmos . "
The OP was asking who would win between a fully fed Galactus and a Shuma-Gorath that had access to 100% of its power to see who would have greater power when both were at their max. "
Who is OP ? "
OP is "original poster". So just the TC which is Aeschma Deava. I remember a while back he was saying Shuma is no stronger than an Asguardian and he's upset that ppl think the total power Shuma has within his realm is even greater than a fully fed Galactus. Thinking about it, it makes sense. I mean, Galactus eats planets, Shuma conquers and absorbs entire dimensions. "
I dont know much about Galactus feats , but even depowered - wasnt his power enough to destroy galaxies or take out 3 Celestials ?
I dont know much about Galactus feats , but even depowered - wasnt his power enough to destroy galaxies or take out 3 Celestials ?
Actually only Full-Powered Galactus is greater than the Celestials. He wasn't depowered at the time, he was at normal levels. A depowered Galactus can be stalemated by The Watcher.
" Lol... Um, well as I understand it, Shuma=TOAA in its home dimension. And even though I've never seen a fully fed Galactus (which should be a ridiculously powerful Galactus, since all of the feats ive seen him accomplish have all come without him being fully fed...), I dont think he would equal TOAA, even at his strongest... "
Shuma =/= TOAA in its home dimension. If he did Strange wouldn't have been able to kick his ass. A full powered Galactus would annihilate Shuma.
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