Galactus vs Alien X

VS

Alien X, Being able to warp reality, time, and space with ease and at any level he wishes. Even his thoughts can become real.

Alien X can create time waves to reverse events, as seen in X = Ben + 2.

Alien X can create an entire universe at will, as seen in So Long, and Thanks for All the Smoothies. He is also very durable, as he was completely unharmed when the Anihilaarg destroyed the universe around him.

As shown in Universe Vs. Tennyson, Alien X can self-duplicate and create galaxies to suck in other beings. He is also capable of high speed travel, superhuman strength, and the ability to grow to a gigantic size. He appears to be skilled at hand-to-hand combat.

Alien X possesses telekinesis, as shown in Weapon XI: Part 1 and is capable of deflecting attacks.

Ben has full control over alien X.

Does ben have control

Alien X wins, because Galactus is not omnipotent.

Gonna go with Galactus just because of feats.

@dbzk1999: Yes he do

@vvzxcv: Cant have battles with omnipotent people

Well then, it's a good thing Alien X isn't omnipotent.

@mysticmedivh: He is an omnipotent overpowered being in Ben 10 verse.

No, he isn't.

I dont see Galactus winning here.

@mysticmedivh: Check internet, he is omnipotent.

Check his feats, he isn't.

Ben survived a universal explosion and recreated his universe can Galactus beat that?

@mysticmedivh: By that logic, neither is TOAA

Explain. What feats of his are contradictory? Alien X's feats contradict omnipotence.

Galactus is destined to survive the next Big Bang (once the 616 universe ends IIRC).

And he can just pop out the UN and bust a universe.

alien x wins.... now he also have a multiversal feat.

@mysticmedivh: surviving the end of universe and taking a universal blast to face are different things

Alien X stomps

alien x can create full size universes within an instance.... he could create an universe and defeat ANYONE within that universe verrry easily.... because.. he'd be omnipotent (true omnipotent) there.

Galactus, or maybe a stalemate.

As for the final episode you mentioned on the other thread. I'm fairly certain he contained a modified annihilarg, meant for a universe. Nothing implied it was multiversal, in fact said to be a universe unless I missed something. Is there any proof that it was multiversal?

that was beginning of creation itself.. because multiversal time didn't began before that (maltraunt... who can travel through multiversal time.. and have his time manipulative abilities on multiversal time.... couldn't produce any time manipulation)

Alien x

Still doesn't prove Alien X is omnipotent, because he isn't.

Yes, but what he suppressed was annihilarg explosion - which is universal.

never said he was

my point is he is far more powerful and durable than than big G

Alright.

Alien X dies

well im gonna say draw

MONGOOSE

how?

alien x has universal level durability
and universal+ feats

Big G get stomped

This kinda looks like a stalemate to me.

@karambit: If you wanna know feats, Alien X recreated the entire universe and beat the best warrior in their entire race.

it was.. but it still was beginning of creation itself... so.. i'm pretty certain that universe was gonna bloom into multiverse.... so..

Oh come on, that's like saying - he killed a man, the man would produce thousands of descendants, so he killed thousands of people.

lol.. whatever... that's still was the beginning of creation... so that's still the big bang of creation itself.... anyway.. why are we arguing on this?.. XD

@mysticmedivh:

Alien X's feats contradict omnipotence.

Which feat exactly? I don't remember any.

Alien X is a Celestialsapien. It is said that Celestialsapiens are omnipotent. There cannot be more than one omnipotent, meaning Celestialsapiens are not omnipotent.

A truly omnipotent being is also omniscient and omnipresent, which Alien X is not.

Alien X created a near copy of a universe. He failed to create a perfect copy, a truly omnipotent being cannot fail if they are intending to achieve something. If he was truly omnipotent then he would have created a perfect copy. Apparently he didn't create one because the two personalities in his head were arguing and couldn't agree, which brings me to my fourth point.

He cannot perform any actions without the bobble heads in his mind agreeing. Essentially, that is a flaw. If he were truly omnipotent then he would be absolutely perfect, without any flaws. An omnipotent being acts on its own, it does not need bobble heads that exist in his mind to decide what he should do before he takes action, nor does it need bobble heads influencing and deciding upon what he does. Omnipotent beings are not bound by such things.

Celestialsapiens have to follow the Multiverse Preservation Act in order to regulate their own powers. Once again, an omnipotent being is above such restrictions. An omnipotent being is unbound, surpassing such petty things.

Darkstar and Osmosians could absorb Alien X's powers. That would be impossible for them to achieve if Alien X was omnipotent.

@mysticmedivh:

alien x is omniscient though

What are his omniscience feats?

those celstialsapien minds knows everything...

he created the copy of our universe from his memory omniscience (apparently, mr. smoothy's taste got mixed up because of ben)...

to tell more accurately.. those two minds inside him (beside ben) are omniscient

Impressive I suppose. Not exactly what I would think of as absolute omniscience. But you probably know better.

A few days before you told me about this feat, and I forgot to reply there. So just clearing it up here.

sure.. no prob..

absolute omniscience means knows everything... which.. those two minds does.. so..

though they never comes to a conclusion with anything.... so that knowledge doesn't matter without ben :D

@mysticmedivh:

There cannot be more than one omnipotent, meaning Celestialsapiens are not omnipotent.

Not true at all. There can be many omnipotents. But their fight should always result in stalemate.

A truly omnipotent being is also omniscient and omnipresent, which Alien X is not.

Alien X recreated universe with his knowledge. That makes him omnicient. Nothing in the show states that Alien X is not omnipresent.

Alien X created a near copy of a universe. He failed to create a perfect copy, a truly omnipotent being cannot fail if they are intending to achieve something. If he was truly omnipotent then he would have created a perfect copy. Apparently he didn't create one because the two personalities in his head were arguing and couldn't agree, which brings me to my fourth point.

Alien X didn't fail to do anything. The tweaks in the universe was done by Ben. He gave himself a jacket, changed the logo of Mr Smoothies.

He cannot perform any actions without the bobble heads in his mind agreeing. Essentially, that is a flaw.

This I agree with. Celestialspaiens are not omnipotent. But if their split personality is removed, then they are. First season of Ultimate Alien was based completely on this. Aggregor wanted to absorb a new born celestialsapien who was omnipotent but hadn't developed split personality yet. Even Paradox said that if Aggregor succeeded, he'd become omnipotent.

Anyways,. Alien X no longer has split personality. Ben has complete control over Alien X.

Darkstar and Osmosians could absorb Alien X's powers. That would be impossible for them to achieve if Alien X was omnipotent.

Never proven. Ben didn't want Darkstar to give a glimpse of Alien X fearing he might absorb it. Aggregor was going to absorb baby celestialsapien but never did. His chances of succeeding was just as much as his chances of failing. The reason everybody was so bent on stopping Aggregor was because if he absorbed even a fraction of a celestiasapien's power, he'd have annihilated the universe.

Alien X because he is omnipotent

There cannot be more than one supreme and absolute being. If you are truly omnipotent then you are above all. A truly omnipotent being can, for example, do anything, including defeating anyone. If there exists another being that would result in a stalemate if they fought, then that would be he couldn't really do anything and everything.

Creating a universe with your knowledge does not necessarily make you omniscient. Just because nothing suggested a random fodder character in a comic wasn't omnipresent, for example, doesn't mean that he is though.

ever proven. Ben didn't want Darkstar to give a glimpse of Alien X fearing he might absorb it.

Your statement just contradicted Alien X being omniscient. Why would he be uncertain? Why would it be a might? If he knew absolutely everything and anything then he wouldn't have feared that he "might". He would simply know. End of story.

The reason everybody was so bent on stopping Aggregor was because if he absorbed even a fraction of a celestiasapien's power, he'd have annihilated the universe.

That also proves that Alien X isn't truly omnipotent. If you are truly omnipotent then you have infinite power. Infinity is infinity, no matter how you look at it. If he even had a "fraction" of infinity, it would still be infinity, making him having infinite power, and arguable capable of annihilating the multiverse instead of a mere universe.

@mysticmedivh:

There cannot be more than one supreme and absolute being. If you are truly omnipotent then you are above all. A truly omnipotent being can, for example, do anything, including defeating anyone. If there exists another being that would result in a stalemate if they fought, then that would be he couldn't really do anything and everything.

This is not true for Marvel verse either. TOAA is supposed to be omnipotent. Rune King Thor is supposed to be omniscient. That means he knows a way of becoming omnipotent(since he knows everything.)

There is nothing like truly omnipotent. Not even in theory. I am sure you know about rock theory right?

Creating a universe with your knowledge does not necessarily make you omniscient. Just because nothing suggested a random fodder character in a comic wasn't omnipresent, for example, doesn't mean that he is though.

Doesn't mean he is not either. Alien X has been called omnipotent multiple times. By the likes of Prof Paradox and Azmuth and other Galvans. And by writers. And so far nothing has happened in series that directly contradicts these statements.

Your statement just contradicted Alien X being omniscient. Why would he be uncertain? Why would it be a might? If he knew absolutely everything and anything then he wouldn't have feared that he "might". He would simply know. End of story.

Alien X was not uncertain. Ben was. How powerful would Micheal had gotten had he touched Alien X for even a second?

That also proves that Alien X isn't truly omnipotent. If you are truly omnipotent then you have infinite power. Infinity is infinity, no matter how you look at it. If he even had a "fraction" of infinity, it would still be infinity, making him having infinite power, and arguable capable of annihilating the multiverse instead of a mere universe.

Lets not bring concepts of infinity(which is very illogical) in this. It will only complicate this further. If Aggregor has merely touched the baby clestialsapein for a few seconds, he'd have become extremely powerful. There is no way to say if he'd have become universal or multiversal. It depends on his rate of absorption. Lets not speculate on what could have happened. It never did.

Alien X was not uncertain. Ben was. How powerful would Micheal had gotten had he touched Alien X for even a second?

If he wasn't uncertain then why did you just say this?

Never proven. Ben didn't want Darkstar to give a glimpse of Alien X fearing he might absorb it.

And what about the Multiverse Preservation Act? Does he still not follow it?

Also, Rune King Thor is nigh omniscient, he is not fully omniscient.

True omnipotence may not be real to some people, but in a world of comic books, it most definitely exists. TOAA is truly omnipotent.