#1 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins

#2 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus Engine was at least as powerfull as Galactus, so: Galactus.

#3 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

The Engine, it was fighting multiple Celestials, Proemial Gods, Galactus himself, the Kree, Nova Corp, Shiar fleet all at the same time and had enough telekinetic power to make the head of Aegis explode. It took some ceremonial tricky thing and MistressDeath collapsing a whole Universe to stop the Galactus Engine.

Guardians get owned, badly

#4 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hoboseid said:

The Engine, it was fighting multiple Celestials, Proemial Gods, Galactus himself, the Kree, Nova Corp, Shiar fleet all at the same time and had enough telekinetic power to make the head of Aegis explode. It took some ceremonial tricky thing and MistressDeath collapsing a whole Universe to stop the Galactus Engine.

Guardians get owned, badly

guardians cant stand up to the color yellow. you get yourself a marker they're done.

#5 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

#6 Posted by NeonNemesis (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?


If Galactus and the other cosmic deities couldn't why would the Guardians have the chance of even lasting more than a second here, let alone even match it?
#7 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hoboseid said:

The Engine, it was fighting multiple Celestials, Proemial Gods, Galactus himself, the Kree, Nova Corp, Shiar fleet all at the same time and had enough telekinetic power to make the head of Aegis explode. It took some ceremonial tricky thing and MistressDeath collapsing a whole Universe to stop the Galactus Engine.

Guardians get owned, badly

This^
#8 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hoboseid said:

The Engine, it was fighting multiple Celestials, Proemial Gods, Galactus himself, the Kree, Nova Corp, Shiar fleet all at the same time and had enough telekinetic power to make the head of Aegis explode. It took some ceremonial tricky thing and MistressDeath collapsing a whole Universe to stop the Galactus Engine.

Guardians get owned, badly

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

Jobbers of the universe die.

#10 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
#11 Posted by JediXMan (31251 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Pre-retcon, the Guardians were each Skyfather level, I believe. Then came Johns.
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#12 Posted by Saren (26027 posts) - - Show Bio

Engine stomps. 
 
@czarny_samael666 said:

@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.
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#13 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

#14 Posted by tron_bonne (2286 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus Engine.

#15 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheFallenOne said:

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

Yeah, the multiple Abstracts, Celestials and Primordial gods that were battling and dieing at the fault were destroying multiple Galaxies as a side effect of there fight with the Galactus engine. Oh wait, no they weren't.
#16 Posted by Illuminatus (9510 posts) - - Show Bio

The Guardians won't prevail, but it would be an interesting fight, nonetheless.

#17 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

Yeah, the multiple Abstracts, Celestials and Primordial gods that were battling and dieing at the fault were destroying multiple Galaxies as a side effect of there fight with the Galactus engine. Oh wait, no they weren't.

read the issue and you'll see that all of them were fighting on higher plane of existance and thus weren't effecting the universe. So your argument is wrong.

#18 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheFallenOne said:

@CapitolPunishment said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

Yeah, the multiple Abstracts, Celestials and Primordial gods that were battling and dieing at the fault were destroying multiple Galaxies as a side effect of there fight with the Galactus engine. Oh wait, no they weren't.

read the issue and you'll see that all of them were fighting on higher plane of existance and thus weren't effecting the universe. So your argument is wrong.

I have the trade in front of me. They were not just fighting "on another plane of existence". Do you need me to post the scans of Galactus wrapped up in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his hands and eyes?
#19 Posted by YoungGunna (2439 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus Engine takes this... @CzarnySamael: PIS showings aside yes Guardians are Skyathers, not Odin level(seperately) but defiantly Zeus class. Ganthet with a wave of his hand undid all the planetary destruction a rogue Guardian did to the planet, he resurected Hal Jordan and he was personally taking on WAVES of GL's with a blown up hand, on reserve power, while holding back. They do have some big time feats to there name like eradicating a Galaxy spanning demon empire, holding entire planets in place while being sucked in a black hole by Krona, being said to be Spectre level, "able to crack a planet with a stray thought", Caging an entire space sector( so 1/3600 of the universe ), less powerful guardian children caused worldwide extinction events with angry thoughts ect. Yes they do have there fair share of low showings but its because they absolutely hate to interfere( in which the GL's come in). In fact there Disposition is such that they'd allow themselves to be killed or commit suicide rather than take action( except agianst universe destroying threats like Nekron and AM).

#20 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@CapitolPunishment said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

Yeah, the multiple Abstracts, Celestials and Primordial gods that were battling and dieing at the fault were destroying multiple Galaxies as a side effect of there fight with the Galactus engine. Oh wait, no they weren't.

read the issue and you'll see that all of them were fighting on higher plane of existance and thus weren't effecting the universe. So your argument is wrong.

I have the trade in front of me. They were not just fighting "on another plane of existence". Do you need me to post the scans of Galactus wrapped up in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his hands and eyes?

Post them. And if you have issue than you can definetelly see when Quasar or NOva asks why are they just standing (refering to Aeigis standing and other). Check the reply that was given.

#21 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Pre-retcon, the Guardians were each Skyfather level, I believe. Then came Johns.
If You mean Pre-COIE (I am asking, becuase there were a lot of retcons in DC), then yeah, but I was talking about pre-Flashpoint.
 
@CitizenBane said:
Engine stomps. 
 
@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin,Surtur,Mephisto,Zeus and Vishnu are powerfull enough to destroy galaxy (Odin and Surtur did it, Zeus and Vishnu are most powerfull Skythers on Earth with Odin and said to be his equals, Mephisto said it by himself, so I am not sure, but he was talking to himself and soon fought with Galactus in his own realm).
 
Thor and BRB are planet busters, Hercules has planet level strength etc. Even Horus has weapon that can destroy (small) planet. 
 
@CapitolPunishment said:
@TheFallenOne said:

@CapitolPunishment said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@CitizenBane said:

Engine stomps.

@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Are they? Ganthet was said to be able to crack the planet in half with a thought.

Odin was destroying galaxies as a side effect of his fights.

Yeah, the multiple Abstracts, Celestials and Primordial gods that were battling and dieing at the fault were destroying multiple Galaxies as a side effect of there fight with the Galactus engine. Oh wait, no they weren't.

read the issue and you'll see that all of them were fighting on higher plane of existance and thus weren't effecting the universe. So your argument is wrong.

I have the trade in front of me. They were not just fighting "on another plane of existence". Do you need me to post the scans of Galactus wrapped up in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his hands and eyes?

1.Skyfathers can destroy galaxies, but they weren't present in this battle.
2.He didn't say that Proemial Gods, Celestials and Galactus were destroying galaxies in that battle.
3.Surfer told Quasar that they don't see the real battle.  The real battle acctually was as Surfer said (in Thanos Imperative, 2 pages before Aegis was killed): 
"Not so, Wendell Vaugh. We only appreciate the tumult of the battle at OUR level of benig. We will not precieve the battle ALREADY JOINED on the Abstract scale until we see its consequences."
#22 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungGunna said:

Galactus Engine takes this... @CzarnySamael: PIS showings aside yes Guardians are Skyathers, not Odin level(seperately) but defiantly Zeus class. Ganthet with a wave of his hand undid all the planetary destruction a rogue Guardian did to the planet, he resurected Hal Jordan and he was personally taking on WAVES of GL's with a blown up hand, on reserve power, while holding back. They do have some big time feats to there name like eradicating a Galaxy spanning demon empire, holding entire planets in place while being sucked in a black hole by Krona, being said to be Spectre level, "able to crack a planet with a stray thought", Caging an entire space sector( so 1/3600 of the universe ), less powerful guardian children caused worldwide extinction events with angry thoughts ect. Yes they do have there fair share of low showings but its because they absolutely hate to interfere( in which the GL's come in). In fact there Disposition is such that they'd allow themselves to be killed or commit suicide rather than take action( except agianst universe destroying threats like Nekron and AM).

Well i don't think that they are Odin' level even combined. Separatelly for sure aren't. Mjolnir is powerfull enough to contain a blast which could wipe out 1/5 of the universe (to be more precise was stated that balst will doome the universe). That feat is >>>>>> than containing Sector 3600(and they had great troubles with that + 13 of them were killed) - guardians best feat which and it's debatable if secotr had a galactic size or 1/3600 of the universe. Guardians didn't mapped entire universe (at least Post Zero Hour suggest they didn't since we see some unknow sectors and parts of the universe which aren't mapped). Ganthet being art of Quintessence is actually because of his wisdom and not his power. Feats of power of Guardians are nothing special, even Surfer can effect entire planet with telepathy (becoming one with planet, bringing world peace etc...), not to mention that their physical status is very weak. Hank Henshaw and Doomsday were trashing them. And Ganthet couldn't even put Henshaw (who can't endure explosion which destroys 1/2 of the planet and is totaly torn apart) down or hurt him. Even their highest showings are way below to what skyfathers do. Even Marvel Zeus has far greater feats and statements than single guardian.

#23 Posted by YoungGunna (2439 posts) - - Show Bio

@FallenOne: Okay Thor containing that much of the universe puts him at skyfather? If we go by one's highest showing one like Superman, Thor, and others would be virtually unstoppable but it is instead what is consistently shown. Ganthet was warped reality on a planetery scale EASILY when he undid all the damage to the Earth and they eradicated the Empire of Tears which was multiple galaxies in size, Surfer isn't consistently displaying that kind of powerlevel. And there physical stats matter why? There not combatants don't get your point... Is low showing what you base your points off of? Everyone has there fair share of them even Odin who has been knocked out by an earthquake, kidnapped by random Dark Gods, and posioned multiple times.. Please display some of Zeus's worth wild feats.

#24 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungGunna said:
Galactus Engine takes this... @CzarnySamael: PIS showings aside yes Guardians are Skyathers, not Odin level(seperately) but defiantly Zeus class. Ganthet with a wave of his hand undid all the planetary destruction a rogue Guardian did to the planet, he resurected Hal Jordan and he was personally taking on WAVES of GL's with a blown up hand, on reserve power, while holding back. They do have some big time feats to there name like eradicating a Galaxy spanning demon empire, holding entire planets in place while being sucked in a black hole by Krona, being said to be Spectre level, "able to crack a planet with a stray thought", Caging an entire space sector( so 1/3600 of the universe ), less powerful guardian children caused worldwide extinction events with angry thoughts ect. Yes they do have there fair share of low showings but its because they absolutely hate to interfere( in which the GL's come in). In fact there Disposition is such that they'd allow themselves to be killed or commit suicide rather than take action( except agianst universe destroying threats like Nekron and AM).
1.Odin=Zeus. I've seen few scans about that, if You want to find them thne You should check this stories: 
a)when Odin,Zeus and Vishnu attacked Celestials
b)When Thor repleaced Odin and had talk with Council of Godheads. Only the most powerfull ones was there and what is suprising more than one from Vishnu's religion. No one beside them and Zeus.
c)when Asgardians were fighting with Olympians
d)Again, when Thor was a King of Earth, these for gods has turned off Odin Force from Thor for some time, to give Strange and other heroes occasion to defeat him (which is by many considered as a another Thor > Hulk fight, since he and Thing attacked Thor and Strange fought with Loki there - mostly off panel).
2.You're talking about story in which Guardians (as a team) imprisoned God-Galaxy. I know, that is why I belive that as a team they are equal to Odin (or other galaxy busters)
3.Sector is no more 1/3600 of universe. It was retconned in Emerald Warriors:
 
 
I personally belive that only known universe is "sectored".
4.I know, the same with Watchers. But Watchers are even more annoying, since Uatu was always supposed to be more powerfull than Skyfathers, but his best feat is creating a star. With ease, but still. Also most powerfull Watchers gived him a... Universe. Created by them... 
 
@TheFallenOne said:

@CapitolPunishment said:

I have the trade in front of me. They were not just fighting "on another plane of existence". Do you need me to post the scans of Galactus wrapped up in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his hands and eyes?

Post them. And if you have issue than you can definetelly see when Quasar or NOva asks why are they just standing (refering to Aeigis standing and other). Check the reply that was given.


As would Fraction said: "As You wish".
Surfer's explanation about Abstract's fight part 1
Surfer's explanation about Abstract's fight part 2
#25 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungGunna
@TheFallenOne :


Wait, wait wait...
1.It was Mjolnir's feat, not Thor's. And to my knowledge Mjolnir was created to be undestructible, to anything beside magic. Pretty much in the same way as Juggy.
2.Zeus, Odin, Hell Lords (which IMO means that also other Skyfathers) don't depend at their physical body, until magic object don't cage them in their bodies. They can't be simply punched to the death, unless their magic abilities were somehow lowered.  Thor depends on his body, he can be KO'd in normal way, killed in normal way, etc.He depends on his body. 
IMO this is an achievement that can be done by powerfull magic beings, since Loki also most time can't be killed in that way. Thor simply don't have (which is stupid since he had Rune powers and knowledge) enough experience in this area.
3.Quintessenceis featless pretty much. Even more than Council of Godheads or Watchers. Or even Guardians to my knowledge.
#26 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheFallenOne:
 

Post them. And if you have issue than you can definetelly see when Quasar or NOva asks why are they just standing (refering to Aeigis standing and other). Check the reply that was given.

Dude, I never said that there was no battle on another plane of existence, Nova took the blast at point blank range when Aegis exploded, it was an epic battle. 
 
I simply said that it in no way was limited to that engagement. There was large scale battle on the physical plane in the 616 Universe that involved Galactus, Galactus engine, abstracts, Celestials and primordial gods. As the story came to a close Galactus stood at the Fault by himself supported by star ships and some super heroes  while he was wrapped up in tentacles fighting for his life. Unless that major part of the story was not real and they were just playing around.
 
@czarny_samael666
 

1.Skyfathers can destroy galaxies, but they weren't present in this battle.

Right so now Sky-fathers>Galactus engine+Galactus+Celestials+Primordial gods+Many angeled ones. 
 
If only Odin was there, one shot and Galaxy busted, battle over, right?

2.He didn't say that Proemial Gods, Celestials and Galactus were destroying galaxies in that battle.

That was sarcasm, you must have missed it.

3.Surfer told Quasar that they don't see the real battle.  The real battle acctually was as Surfer said (in Thanos Imperative, 2 pages before Aegis was killed): 
"Not so, Wendell Vaugh. We only appreciate the tumult of the battle at OUR level of benig. We will not precieve the battle ALREADY JOINED on the Abstract scale until we see its consequences."

That scan you posted means nothing, I never denied that happened or seen anyone else do so for that matter. An epic battle took place on another plane of existence, no one denied that.
 
That was only part of the battle, read the last images of the battle on the fault and you will clearly see Galactus, fighting for his survival, covered in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his eyes & hands and then the Shiar commander ordering the ships to support him. Because part of earlier battle took place on another plane of existence are you trying to tell me that wasn't a real fight or something? That they were just playing around? Or maybe Galactus and the entire 616 universe were hallucinating?
#27 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael666
 

1.Skyfathers can destroy galaxies, but they weren't present in this battle.

Right so now Sky-fathers>Galactus engine+Galactus+Celestials+Primordial gods+Many angeled ones. 
 
If only Odin was there, one shot and Galaxy busted, battle over, right?

2.He didn't say that Proemial Gods, Celestials and Galactus were destroying galaxies in that battle.

That was sarcasm, you must have missed it.

3.Surfer told Quasar that they don't see the real battle.  The real battle acctually was as Surfer said (in Thanos Imperative, 2 pages before Aegis was killed): 
"Not so, Wendell Vaugh. We only appreciate the tumult of the battle at OUR level of benig. We will not precieve the battle ALREADY JOINED on the Abstract scale until we see its consequences."

That scan you posted means nothing, I never denied that happened or seen anyone else do so for that matter. An epic battle took place on another plane of existence, no one denied that.
 
That was only part of the battle, read the last images of the battle on the fault and you will clearly see Galactus, fighting for his survival, covered in tentacles shooting energy blasts out of his eyes & hands and then the Shiar commander ordering the ships to support him. Because part of earlier battle took place on another plane of existence are you trying to tell me that wasn't a real fight or something? That they were just playing around? Or maybe Galactus and the entire 616 universe were hallucinating?
1.??? I've didn't said that SF > Galactus, I've said that they can destroy galaxies. All of these other beings can do it as well.
2.Yeah, but about certain thing. Besides, too much sarcasm and it is starting "bad way" of debate, what You could see in other thread already between me and Hoffenheim. 
3.It has changed, when people who were support him couldn't fight in all of the same ways he was fighting (when Novas attacked GE).
#28 Posted by jashro44 (23815 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: Odin has destroyed galaxies before. So has galactus.

#29 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44 said:

@CapitolPunishment: Odin has destroyed galaxies before. So has galactus.

Ever hear of hyperbole?
#30 Posted by wkar (211 posts) - - Show Bio

GALACTUS ENGINE WIN.

#31 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah, GE wins this.

#32 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

GE takes this.

+ 1 marvel

:P

#33 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:

GE takes this.

+ 1 marvel

:P

Is the +1 Marvel from somewhere? 
 
I'm pretty sure I have heard it before lol...
#34 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCerealKillz said:

@difficlus said:

GE takes this.

+ 1 marvel

:P

Is the +1 Marvel from somewhere? I'm pretty sure I have heard it before lol...

nay i made it up.

#35 Posted by YoungGunna (2439 posts) - - Show Bio

@CzarnySamael: Certianly everyone in this thread was asking for examples of the Guardians power levels-- shouldn't Zeus be held to the same standard? I think its fair to demand ACTUAL feats to back up a characters power level. Now PROVE that Zeus is above Guardians. If Zeus doesn't have any of those sort of feats what's to say that he is a peer of Odins in terms of power, rather than in terms of importance?.. A) Zeus attacking Celestials is impressive in what way?.. B) Still more talk? Give me some skyfather level combat feats.. C) Your point is?.. D) What does this have to do with Zeus.... 2) Together, the Guardians have more than what it takes to beat for Odin. Only at TIMES Odin can bust galaxies. One time confirmed, another time rectconned( as tapping into the power of the cosmic being Infinity). He's certiantly more powerful than any single Guardian, but they are each Skyfather level in there own right, and it wouldn't take but a few to take Odin down, IMHO. The Guardians are known to have been responsible for protecting entire Galaxies for the sole purpose of trying to recreate the Big Bang and breaking the Empire of Tears than trapping them on a single planet. What are Zeus's Galaxy busting feats?... 3) Everything has been rectonned in DC, why mention that as any importance?... 4) Yep, I was going to make a comparison between the two race's there one in the same(Watchers & Guardians I mean)...

#36 Posted by jashro44 (23815 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: That was not the only time odin has destroyed a galaxy. Here he is recreating galaxies. Also surtur destroyed a galaxy and odin has proven to be above surtur. And Galactus has even better feats than odin so...yea he can to. Not that its all impressive as almost any abstract can bust galaxies like nothing.

#37 Posted by JediXMan (31251 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666 said:
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
@deathlife said:

I re-call the Galactus engine destroying some Celestials but i am talking about ALL the Guardians of Oa. Combined might...can't they do anything to stop it?

Guardians are below Skyfathers (at least these from Marvel, because most powerfull of them can destroy galaxies) who are below Celestials.
Pre-retcon, the Guardians were each Skyfather level, I believe. Then came Johns.
If You mean Pre-COIE (I am asking, becuase there were a lot of retcons in DC), then yeah, but I was talking about pre-Flashpoint.
 
Pre-Rebirth or pre-Emerald Twilight.
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#38 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Take out all the low showings of the Guardians..........................................And they'd still lose!!!!

#39 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@YoungGunna :
@TheFallenOne : Wait, wait wait... 1.It was Mjolnir's feat, not Thor's. And to my knowledge Mjolnir was created to be undestructible, to anything beside magic. Pretty much in the same way as Juggy. 2.Zeus, Odin, Hell Lords (which IMO means that also other Skyfathers) don't depend at their physical body, until magic object don't cage them in their bodies. They can't be simply punched to the death, unless their magic abilities were somehow lowered. Thor depends on his body, he can be KO'd in normal way, killed in normal way, etc.He depends on his body. IMO this is an achievement that can be done by powerfull magic beings, since Loki also most time can't be killed in that way. Thor simply don't have (which is stupid since he had Rune powers and knowledge) enough experience in this area. 3.Quintessenceis featless pretty much. Even more than Council of Godheads or Watchers. Or even Guardians to my knowledge.

And i stated that containig Kang's universal busting bomb was Mjolnir's feat.

#40 Posted by unopen7639 (151 posts) - - Show Bio

galactus and ge