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#1 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin, in his most powerful incarnation takes on Alan Scott with full control of the Starheart (Pre new 52). Both combatants have morals off. Battle starts in China and it is to the death.

Who takes it?

Odin

vs

#2 Edited by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: How can Odin win?

Even Odin with the OF, Odinsword, and destroyer armor couldn't put down Starheart Alan.

#3 Posted by BossMan404 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin.

#4 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: How can Odin win?

Even Odin with the OF, Odinsword, and destroyer armor couldn't put down Starheart Alan.

I heard from here that Odin is able to use the destroyer armor with the souls of people in Asgard and it makes him uber powerful...so I thought this would be a good match

#5 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: Very good even match.

My choice goes to Alan Scott.

#6 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@Jayfournines: Very good even match.

My choice goes to Alan Scott.

thanks =)

#7 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: Wait, so Odin has all the souls of Asgard, then?

#8 Posted by WillPayton (9439 posts) - - Show Bio

Might have to go with Alan on this.

#9 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan

#10 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Wait, so Odin has all the souls of Asgard, then?

I dunno, i'm not an Odin expert...that would be

#12 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: Odin at his highest level of power would be Odin Force+Destroyer Armor+Souls of Asgard+Odin Sword.

He had most of the souls of asgard inside the destroyer armor when he fought the Fourth Host of Celestials.

#13 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Odin at his highest level of power would be Odin Force+Destroyer Armor+Souls of Asgard+Odin Sword.

He had most of the souls of asgard inside the destroyer armor when he fought the Fourth Host of Celestials.

so...that's the one then

#14 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin.

#15 Posted by BigCimmerian (8305 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: How can Odin win?

Even Odin with the OF, Odinsword, and destroyer armor couldn't put down Starheart Alan.

I heard from here that Odin is able to use the destroyer armor with the souls of people in Asgard and it makes him uber powerful...so I thought this would be a good match

Yes, he by absorbing souls of Asgardians he can go toe to toe with average celestials.

#16 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Odin at his highest level of power would be Odin Force+Destroyer Armor+Souls of Asgard+Odin Sword.

He had most of the souls of asgard inside the destroyer armor when he fought the Fourth Host of Celestials.

so...that's the one then

Then I would think Odin.

#17 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5052 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin wins

#18 Posted by RingSlinger (533 posts) - - Show Bio

odin

#19 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmmmm, great match-up. I think the fact that the Allfather would be in his toughest incarnation implies he'd have the Destroyer Armor, which would be able to be a pretty good match-up for the classic Starheart. Pyrrhic victory to Odin I say.

#20 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Odin.

this

#21 Posted by Killemall (18564 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Wait, so Odin has all the souls of Asgard, then?

I dunno, i'm not an Odin expert...that would be

Why would Odin have all the souls of Asgard, he can manipulate the souls , we still dont know if he could if the Asgardians are unwilling but when they are he can, as he did during Thor 300, but thats a different issue altogether.

Also i dont think that was the most powerful version of Odin, what did he exactly do in the series? Hopped into the destroyer Armor, grabbed the Odin Sword, amp up the armor and still fail to kill a single celestial, the annual (Thor Annual 07) ended with Celestial melting the Armor, melting the Odin Sword and Gia finally asking them to spare earth and asgard, which at the end they decided to. There is little feats to go with .

The most powerful incarnation of Odin, perhaps, appeared way back during The Mighty Thor 185-188, where he battles Infinity (Quasar 52 states that he was tapping into the power of Infinity, the abstract itself) and the said battle destroyed Galaxies. Now given the fact that Infinity he was fighting, was just a part of Odin himself that probably is his most powerful incarnation. Its easier to think that power of an abstract > souls from asgardians.

I think its really close

#22 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Interesting.

#23 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Wait, so Odin has all the souls of Asgard, then?

I dunno, i'm not an Odin expert...that would be @Killemall

Why would Odin have all the souls of Asgard, he can manipulate the souls , we still dont know if he could if the Asgardians are unwilling but when they are he can, as he did during Thor 300, but thats a different issue altogether.

Also i dont think that was the most powerful version of Odin, what did he exactly do in the series? Hopped into the destroyer Armor, grabbed the Odin Sword, amp up the armor and still fail to kill a single celestial, the annual (Thor Annual 07) ended with Celestial melting the Armor, melting the Odin Sword and Gia finally asking them to spare earth and asgard, which at the end they decided to. There is little feats to go with .

The most powerful incarnation of Odin, perhaps, appeared way back during The Mighty Thor 185-188, where he battles Infinity (Quasar 52 states that he was tapping into the power of Infinity, the abstract itself) and the said battle destroyed Galaxies. Now given the fact that Infinity he was fighting, was just a part of Odin himself that probably is his most powerful incarnation. Its easier to think that power of an abstract > souls from asgardians.

I think its really close

In the fight with infinity he got owned and made into infinity's herald , Odin was not responsible for the "Galaxy's Crumbling" that was infinity, i would not consider Odin a Galaxy buster he was fighting for his life whereas Infinity seemed very casual about the fight. Dormammu gave Eternity much more trouble.
#24 Posted by XMen1963 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan Scott wins after a good, long fight

#25 Posted by SokMaDeak (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh god this idiot Xmen1963 is back. Get ready for another surge of his stupidity

#26 Posted by Killemall (18564 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

In the fight with infinity he got owned and made into infinity's herald

That is certainly not what happened, unless you are talking about a different issue altogether.

Odin was not responsible for the "Galaxy's Crumbling" that was infinity,

Does it matter, after all Infinity was but a part of Odin that was stolen by Hela a long time ago.

That is why, this is how Odin defeated Infinity

i would not consider Odin a Galaxy buster he was fighting for his life whereas Infinity seemed very casual about the fight.

Well i would not consider Odin Galaxy buster either and i can agree with you. Not because Odin was fighting for his life and Infinity fighting casually or anything but because it might have been a hyperbole. In the same issue Odin was stated to be omnipotent, first panel to the right.

Dormammu gave Eternity much more trouble.

This i am a big surprised, why would you compare Dormammu or Eternity with Odin, those guys should be leagues and bounds more powerful than poor old Odin.

#27 Posted by spiderbuck (2454 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Odin.

this

#28 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2953 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin

#29 Posted by Hyperlight (5822 posts) - - Show Bio

IM assuming odin would be much better at controlling cosmic/mystical energies than Alan scott. Full access doesnt mean experience.... id personally gove it to the millenia old asgardian

#30 Posted by beatboks1 (7215 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines: Wait, so Odin has all the souls of Asgard, then?

I dunno, i'm not an Odin expert...that would be

Why would Odin have all the souls of Asgard, he can manipulate the souls , we still dont know if he could if the Asgardians are unwilling but when they are he can, as he did during Thor 300, but thats a different issue altogether.

Also i dont think that was the most powerful version of Odin, what did he exactly do in the series? Hopped into the destroyer Armor, grabbed the Odin Sword, amp up the armor and still fail to kill a single celestial, the annual (Thor Annual 07) ended with Celestial melting the Armor, melting the Odin Sword and Gia finally asking them to spare earth and asgard, which at the end they decided to. There is little feats to go with .

The most powerful incarnation of Odin, perhaps, appeared way back during The Mighty Thor 185-188, where he battles Infinity (Quasar 52 states that he was tapping into the power of Infinity, the abstract itself) and the said battle destroyed Galaxies. Now given the fact that Infinity he was fighting, was just a part of Odin himself that probably is his most powerful incarnation. Its easier to think that power of an abstract > souls from asgardians.

I think its really close

Any decent feats for Odin a little more recent. I only got back into reading Thor a little more recently than that and can't find any of my older 70's issues.

#31 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Odin.

#32 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: @beatboks1: Can you reply and not quote, please?

#33 Posted by Killemall (18564 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: Sure, sorry old habits die hard :p

@beatboks1: Most recent issues, he was capable of rebuilding an already destroyed Asgard, an entire planet, out of nothing with but a wave of his hand, and appreantly not only planet but the buldings were also re-created, during early part of Fear Itself. He fought and headbutted Galactus, knocking him out, although to be fair Galactus did got up on in the same issues, while Odin only got up only half way through the next issue but was clearly extremely weakened and needed Odin sleep (The Mighty Thor 05 and 06).

He has looked far less impressive than a "galaxy buster" which is what i have seen Odin labelled often, but has still looked pretty powerful.

#34 Posted by beatboks1 (7215 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@beatboks1: Most recent issues, he was capable of rebuilding an already destroyed Asgard, an entire planet, out of nothing with but a wave of his hand, and appreantly not only planet but the buldings were also re-created, during early part of Fear Itself. He fought and headbutted Galactus, knocking him out, although to be fair Galactus did got up on in the same issues, while Odin only got up only half way through the next issue but was clearly extremely weakened and needed Odin sleep (The Mighty Thor 05 and 06).

He has looked far less impressive than a "galaxy buster" which is what i have seen Odin labelled often, but has still looked pretty powerful.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't the headbutt to Galactus around the time Thor was injured by the world tree? The storyline where the injured Thor and Silver Surfer went at it, Surfer eventually choosing a side that gained G's disfavor once again.

#35 Posted by Killemall (18564 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:

If I'm not mistaken wasn't the headbutt to Galactus around the time Thor was injured by the world tree? The storyline where the injured Thor and Silver Surfer went at it, Surfer eventually choosing a side that gained G's disfavor once again.

Yep the same , Galactus Seed story arc.

#36 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

ODIN wins

#37 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7511 posts) - - Show Bio

With recent showings Odin in a mad stomp.

#38 Posted by beatboks1 (7215 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it would be a stomp, but Odin should take it in anhard battle IMO

#39 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

To my knowledge - Odin. And he wasn't boosted in his fight with Infinity. IT was mistake made by Kronos, but he also didn't know what happen. He just thought that if some Infinity attacked universe, it had to be Abstract one. Kronos has obsesion over Infinity.

#40 Posted by WillPayton (9439 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#41 Posted by XiiX (8206 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin.

#42 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Warrgh.....

Odin

#43 Posted by Needlebay (1935 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin stomps.

#44 Posted by WillPayton (9439 posts) - - Show Bio

IM assuming odin would be much better at controlling cosmic/mystical energies than Alan scott. Full access doesnt mean experience.... id personally gove it to the millenia old asgardian

Full Starheart would mean that the Starheart entity itself would be in control, not Alan. Odin might be great at controlling magic, but the Starheart is a sentient entity made of magic... all the chaos magic that existed in the universe billions of years ago. The Starheart is a universal-level power, which Odin isnt.

#45 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

interesting match up

#46 Posted by thanosii (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

feats for star heart bigger than fighting DC earth

#47 Edited by beatboks1 (7215 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanosii said:

feats for star heart bigger than fighting DC earth

When Eclipso took the starheart from Alan with Shade's help he used it to kill Spectre and the Presence. That a high enough feat for you?? Baring in mind Eclipso has a bit of power in his own right being the former wrath of god prior to god finding mercy in the new testament

Sorry for the order, it's all over the place. But You get the picture I hope.

#48 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Trust me dude this is not a good fight at all. Odin is one of the most powerful sky fathers. Alan Scott has no chance against him even at that level, honestly silver surfer has better feats than this version of Alan an with no upgrades. Odin pawns surfer so he can wipe Alan out of existence even at this level.

#49 Edited by lordraiden (7075 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso killed the Presence with the starheart??? When did this happen?

#50 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5408 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: ABC logic. Alan's not Eclipso, doesn't mean Alan has ability to duplicate that feat.

ODIN