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#1 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

Normal Rules, in Hobbiton (Shire) Fighting for the One Ring

Round 1 Books

Round 2 Films

#2 Posted by Strider92 (16756 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna go with Bilbo. He seemed able to hold his own a lot better whereas Frodo always needed help. Bilbo took on that Goblin and basically won even though he had no prior experience with weapons.

#3 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

It'll probalby end up just like Smeagol and his brother.

#4 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo wins.

#5 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

By the time Frodo was living, and the time LOTR took place, Biblo was old and feeble, so i would give it to Frodo.

#6 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9641 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo in the book and the movie, he did a lot more fighting.

#7 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo both rounds.

#8 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

...AND DEBATE!

#9 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo wasn't a fighter.

Bilbo was:

  1. A Thief
  2. A Trickster
  3. A Killer
  4. A Writer
#10 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo should tale both.

#11 Posted by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair the ring took more of a toll on frodo than it did on bilbo. Frodo never got to use it much.

#12 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (714 posts) - - Show Bio

While Bilbo started off quite cowardly and gentle, he became very brave and managed to slay a Warg rider when he protected Thorin, Frodo was a weak and showed no combat skill, i dont know if he even killled anything, Bilbo has the stones for this fight so he takes it!

#13 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo would beat his nephew.

#14 Posted by SSJLozza (1528 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo stomps! Frodo never ever fought and to the people saying about Bilbo being old, it specifically states HOBBIT BILBO!

#15 Posted by GunGunW (997 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo is a better character but he wouldn't win a fight

#16 Posted by Joygirl (20064 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo pwn'd a bunch of spiders all on his own, like no big deal. Frodo did.. oh wait... wait.. one sec... oh right, nothing.

#17 Posted by logy5000 (5960 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo is a baby.

Bilbo murdered all those spiders & pick-pocketed the trolls.

Frodo would've wet his pants if he just looked at the spiders.

#18 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Thunderer said:

Normal Rules, in Hobbiton (Shire) Fighting for the One Ring

Round 1 Books <- laughs; bilbo is currently writing his book,

Round 2 Films <- laughs

#19 Posted by name12345 (560 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo both

#20 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo stomps.

#21 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (18965 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo is more the adventurer type than frodo.. He is experienced, and probably a bit more toughened up. Not to mention Bilbo had loads of journeys to write about.Frodo had only one (But maybe more epic). Only thing frodo has over bilbo is that he resisted the ring far better than Bilbo. But that's not going to help him in a battle.. Bilbo both rounds. movie maybe a closer fight..

#22 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (714 posts) - - Show Bio

Frodo didnt defeat anything, and i mean anything, he was weak and his only purpose was to carry the ring, watch the films he did litreally nothing.

#23 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

In their prime?

Bilbo.

Frodo pretty much gets trounced throughout the books, in fact, I would argue he has next to zero combat feats other than tanking hits with his mithril chainmail, and getting stomped on by Shelob while Sam saves his sorry but. I think Sam would be a better fight for Bilbo.

Whereas Bilbo was actually thrown into combat and learned to use his weapon. However, he did get clunked in the head during the biggest battle of the book.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#24 Posted by H-boss97 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Aren't we forgetting that frodo technically killed Sauron?

#25 Posted by Eisenfauste (8383 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo ftw.

#26 Edited by mtuske (1256 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo. Frodo was more of a crybaby who's friends always bailed him out. Bilbo twice single handedly saved his crew from death.

#27 Posted by Awesomedude (2153 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo.

#28 Edited by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo both rounds, Frodo is virtually useless and would have died before he got out of the shire if not for Sam.

#29 Posted by RogueShadow (11228 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo.

#30 Edited by leito (264 posts) - - Show Bio

@mtuske said:

Bilbo. Frodo was more of a crybaby who's friends always bailed him out. Bilbo twice single handedly saved his crew from death.

Frodo saved the other Hobbits in the Barrow Downs, "perhaps the most dangerous moment of all" in the words of Gandalf. And a character that accepts the task of taking the One Ring to the very heart of Mordor (and succeeds, thanks, in great part to the help of Sam, of course) is hardly a crybaby. Bilbo's journey to Erebor was a walk in the park compared to what Frodo did.

#31 Posted by mtuske (1256 posts) - - Show Bio

@leito: He cried in every movie. Waaa Waaa why me. I should have never left the shire Waaa Waaa. If not for Sam toughening up his man nuggets he would have quit. If you go in a quite room and listen you can hear Frodo's tears even now.

He did have his moments though but Bilbo takes it.

#32 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

Have no fear Syndicate is here! Praise Illuvatar.

Bilbo from the books wins as he fought in the battle of 5 armis and held his own and fought against numerous opponents and managed to hold his own while Frodo never actually fought anyone in the books.

Bilbo would also win in the films as he has shown to have beaten a goblin warrior H2H with no prior experience and then shown to wiled Sting well against both Spiders and Goblins and he has also been shown to be extremely accurate. LOTR Frodo vs LOTR Bilbo Frodo would win due to Bilbo's extreme old age.

Final Analysis

Hobbit Movie Bilbo > LOTR Movie Frodo.

Hobbit Book Bilbo > LOTR Book Frodo.

LOTR Movie Frodo > LOTR Movie Bilbo.

Please be more specific with the versions next time sir.

#33 Posted by MetalJimmor (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate:

Bilbo was unconscious for the Battle of Five Armies.

#34 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate:

Bilbo was unconscious for the Battle of Five Armies.

I always thought him getting clunked in the head while invisible by a random stone and waking up after the battle was the biggest cop out.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#35 Edited by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@metaljimmor: Knit picking details. My point is in the books he thought both orcs spiders and trolls and managed to survive and even do well against a majority of his opponents while Frodo's feats encompass being carried by Sam to Mount Doom and not even using his sword when they returned to drive the ruffians from the Shire. Bilbo wins or do you want to contest that?

#36 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by leito (264 posts) - - Show Bio

@mtuske said:

@leito: He cried in every movie. Waaa Waaa why me. I should have never left the shire Waaa Waaa. If not for Sam toughening up his man nuggets he would have quit. If you go in a quite room and listen you can hear Frodo's tears even now.

He did have his moments though but Bilbo takes it.

I give much more credit to the books than to the movies and Peter Jackson's ideas of the characters. Sam is completely unconscious of the dangers and the magnitude of the task Frodo has to accomplish, he is the happy-go-lucky kind of character. Frodo is the one who actually has the balls, knowing of the difficulty of the task, carrying the One Ring, resisting its corruption and after being wounded several times, to keep on marching towards Mount Doom.

#38 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@leito: This man knows what he's talking about Frodo has a strength of will and determination that far exceeds anything I have ever read or watched before.

#39 Posted by Herokiller12344 (999 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo's more experienced in straight up combat.

#40 Posted by jrwinteriscoming (9 posts) - - Show Bio

think bilbo should be able to beat frodo

#41 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

Well glad that's solved.

#42 Posted by _Atomikill_ (4309 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo has the XP.

#43 Posted by pikachumonster (3100 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: ah, me thinks bilbo's got this

#44 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep.

#45 Posted by DarthAznable (7837 posts) - - Show Bio

Bilbo both rounds.

#46 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

Mhmm.

#47 Edited by MetalJimmor (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate

That isn't nit picking. You said he fought in the Battle of Five Armies. He did not. You were incorrect and I corrected you.

I do think Bilbo wins. I'm just saying he didn't fight in the battle because he was unconscious for it.

@floopay

It really was. I was honestly mad when I got to that part the first time. Here we are with this huge build up, this amazing description of forces readying for battle. Gandalf seems like he's about to whip out some truly spectacular magic. Then all of a sudden it fades to black.

If Peter Jackson does that for his next Hobbit film there will be soooo many angry viewers.

#48 Edited by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#49 Edited by MetalJimmor (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate:

I'm already working on the paper work, don't you worry. Expect a call to court in the next eight to ten weeks!

#50 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

XD