Freeza vs Darkseid
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this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????
this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????
"this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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"this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????
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He beat superman who moves at lightspeed.
"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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"zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover.
"Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
"zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"Nobody said:no. A ship sent him down with some kind of tractor beam. he did not hover."zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"Nobody said:He came down out of the ship and slowly came down to the ground."zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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"zee crusher said:"Nobody said:no. A ship sent him down with some kind of tractor beam. he did not hover."zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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You don't even know which time I speak off...............
"the human Juggernaut said:"zee crusher said:"Nobody said:no. A ship sent him down with some kind of tractor beam. he did not hover."zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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You don't even know which time I speak off..............."
The justice league unlimited season finale. Destroyer. Darkseid trys to turn earth into apokolips.
"zee crusher said:"the human Juggernaut said:"zee crusher said:"Nobody said:no. A ship sent him down with some kind of tractor beam. he did not hover."zee crusher said:No like he'd stand up hands folded behind his back and hover. He did it every now an then."Nobody said:Maybe on a chair, but I don't remember ever seeing it."zee crusher said:I meant hover an yes he did hover."Nobody said:He didn't fly on tv."zee crusher said:Never mind I'm thinking of the tv version................ Either way he doesn't need flight in this battle. Just delete the little bugger................."Nobody said:Its a none, he has his feet planted on the ground."zee crusher said:"lukeenking said:Darkseid can't fly."this is one of the best ive seen so far besides mine im gonna go with frieza he can fly and his power level is high and darkseid dont fight i never seen him fight so >?????Darkseid can fly to. Unlike freeza he's almost impossible to kill. Darkseid can fight to although freezas hits would be so small he just stand there....................
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More like a hover. I think it was a hover."
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You don't even know which time I speak off..............."
The justice league unlimited season finale. Destroyer. Darkseid trys to turn earth into apokolips."
Lol yet agian I never stated which time I was talking about. Also I was thinking more like superman show on wb I think where he had his own villains like parasite, and some others I forgot.
Well it's been 12 years LOL.
Consistently DS gets stomped by current Freiza
Anyway this thread nowadays is against the rules.
@thewatcherking: @anabeargirl: @seankahi: @mike_strike10:
Some perspective scaling on Pre-criss Darkseid.
Common knowledge that Infinite Man >>> Pre-crisis Superman
Speed = Easily breaking the boundaries of space and time as if it was a fragile tissue, and infinite
The super sneeze=
Darkseid restrains both Superman and Infinity-Man using TK
@supremthor69: Lol he is not even close to being consistently at that level.
@mike_strike10: In a vs battle I would assume you take into account the opponents at their prime and not lowballs. Just backing up my statement with scans.
@mike_strike10: In a vs battle I would assume you take into account the opponents at their prime and not lowballs. Just backing up my statement with scans.
Unless directly stated we use the most consistent version of the characters. DS has more feats putting him above Planetary than otherwise. Now CV has a problem with it's addiction to feats. Feats are not the only thing to consider. Statements that are backed up are valid. DS is too inconsistent to put him anything above planetary.
Darkseid lesser-known abilities.
Speed:
- Flies with Highfather at "unthinkable speeds" to the Source Wall end of the DC Multiverse.
Existence Erasure :
- Erases Batman, and Black Racer doesn't know where erased beings go (JLA #14)
- Erases attacking aliens (JK4W #5)
- Erases Virman Vundabar and reveals the OE also erases memories over time (JK4W #19)
- Erases Agog.
Matter Manipulation
- Turns Mister Miracle's soul cleaning soap to mud (MM v2 #18)
- Turns Lashina's body to stone after killing her (SS v1 #36)
- Turns the stone back to Lashina when reviving her (MM v2 #17)
- Blasts Slobo, turning him into a statue (YJ #55)
- Turns a chess piece into a bird statue (Eclipso #10)
- Turns a marble back into Hank Henshaw (Superman v2 #1040
Telepathy
- [Desaad]Brainwashes Superman (AC #586)
- Granny Goodness trains cadets to resist telepathy "less than Darkseid's own" (AC #593)
- Accesses Tempest's mind to channel magic through him (WW v2 #173)
- Brainwashes Supergirl (S/B #12)
Telekinesis
- Lifts and restrains Superman, then throws 3 people into a Boomtube (AC #637)
- His weaker future self restrains the entire Legion, and DS simply reverses it (TL #29)
- Telekinetically pushes away Scott and Orion (Firestorm v2 #35)
- Restrains Superman and Infinity-Man (AoS #495)
Space Manipulation
- Teleports himself, Granny, and Desaad to the labs (NG v3 #1)
- Opens Boomtubes via will (AC #600)
- Opens a Boomtube with a gesture to banish the Outsiders (Outsiders v1 #22)
- [Avatar]warps Vykin's Boomtube to come to him (NG v4 #13)
- Teleports Sleez to Earth and Sleez mentions the Omega Beams teleportation process temporarily erases you, making you "less than nothing" for an instantbefore spitting you out at your destination (AC #592)
- Teleports a cube of X-Element to Metron (ST #62)
- Banishes Grayven (AOS #595)
- Teleports Superman from Apokolipsto Earth (Superman v2 #104)
- Teleports a disguised Supermanto him (Superman v2 #104)
- Teleports a Mother Box (NG v4 #7)
- Teleports J'ohn from Apokolipsto Mars (MMH v2 #34-35)
- Teleports Superman and Infinity-Man to him, then banishes Infinity-Man (AoS #495)
Energy Absorption
- Absorbed the Omega Effect to become Darkseid (JK4W #5)
- His weaker future self absorbs energyfrom his corrupted servants and Apokolips to refuel himself (TL #30)
- Absorbs the Omega Effect back out of Desaad (S/B #42)
- Absorbs the powers of alien gods he killed (JK4W #4)
- Absorbs Spiritual Energy from the Amazons (WW v2 #174)
Time Manipulation
- Freezes Space-time around Ares (Genesis #4)
- Bends time to bring a clone of Desaad to full maturity (NG v3 #15)
- Teleports Iluthin to 16th Century Italy (JK4W #9-10)
- Teleports Slobo to the 853rd century (YJ #55)
- Orion states Darkseid and "any god" can travel through time "Easily" (Genesis #1)
Soul Manipulation
- Puts Cyborg Superman's soul in a marble (S/D HP #2)
- Pulls Professor Stein out of the Firestorm Matrix (Firestorm v2 #35)
- Fuses Stargirl's soul with the D.E.M. device (MMH v2 #19)
Life/Death Manipulation
- Brings Lashina back to life (MM v2 #17)
- Brings Bernadeth back to life (SS v1 #36)
- Brings Orion back to life (NG v4 #7)
- Brings his parademons back with a gesture (WW v2 #104)
- Brings Secretback to life (YJ #55)
- Brought Steppenwolf back to life (NG v3 #22)
Size Manipulation
- Grows to fight Jimmy Olsen, then shrinks back down to confront Atom (Countdown #2-3)
Avatars
- An Avatar of his head appears and slaughters Rioting Apokoliptians (Anarky #2)
- Informs Anarky he is an avatar (Anarky #2)
- An avatar informs Vykin he is one and explains Darkseid occasionally uses them (NG v4 #15)
- Turns a statute into one, stating doing so uses more energy in a second than Apokolips uses in a year (DV). Apokolips and New Genesis are MASSIVE planets, with statements ranging from them being So large, Earth would barely displace the waters of a small lake to Earth being the size of a speck in an air pocket compared to them to half the size of a planet larger than the largest star to half the size of a planet that dwarfed Galaxies. And yes, we know they're exactly half the size since it'sRepeatedlystatedtheyarethetwo halves of the planet.
Freiza stomps
Lmao at Frieza not tagging Darkseid. Darkseid doesn't really even use alot of "hax" either. Unless you think Omega Beams count.
Current Frieza? Spite unless it's TF Darkseid, Frieza oneshots. If it's Pre-Crisis, it would probably be a decent fight, Frieza stil winning tho. Darkseid ain't blitzing shit, he gets blitzed instead lol. Also, INB4 the m'fucking lock, who bumped this??
Darkseid rarely uses any hax in any of fights unless it his omega beam and portal creation when he needs to get from point A to B. Freeza has already resisted existent erasure. The only version of DS that would beat current Freeza would be true Darkseid and soul fire.
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