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#1 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, bloodlust on.

Battle ends in KO or Death.

Battle takes place in Freddy's Dream world.

No prep.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by russellmania77 (15806 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid has no fears. it would be like when he fought jason in the dream world in the beginning of that fight.

#3 Edited by The_Imperator (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid has a couple fears, but he is also used to dealing with beings far beyond Freddy. Omega Beams to drain Freddy/kill him/teleport him away, whichever works the best. Or, for added irony, send Freddy into the Omega Sanction and have him live thousands of "dream" lives, each worse than the last. And Freddy certainly isn't going to get out the same way as Mister Miracle, he who is immune to the Anti-Life (wonder if it's because original Mister Miracle gave him part of it, would make sense?).

#4 Edited by Walzo (4356 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid....

This shouldn't be a argument.

#5 Posted by Wardemon32 (4534 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid would be scared of a guy that like's to pick on teens? Darkseid owns

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#6 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator: But, Freddy has full power in the dream world (a reminder)

#7 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid.

#8 Edited by russellmania77 (15806 posts) - - Show Bio

well yeah darkseid doesnt like music but i wouldnt call it a fear

#9 Edited by The_Imperator (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjohnrocks:

Never seen any of the Ft13 movies, so that's news to me. How did they win in the movies? And even beyond that, Darkseid has mental abilities that put him above what I've heard about Freddy. All-power means nothing if Freddy can't use it because he is living through thousands of lives. But if Freddy in Dream World can no-sell anything, he wins.

#10 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

#11 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

fail thread

#12 Posted by Wardemon32 (4534 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjohnrocks: He get's his power off of fear. Darkseid wont be scared

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#13 Posted by NeonGameWave (8982 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid BFR`s Freddy to the Real World and has him reduced to ash.

#14 Edited by protectyourneck (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Freddy the dream lord stomps.

#15 Posted by TifaLockhart (14157 posts) - - Show Bio

What can Freddy do? I've only seen him in MK9.

#16 Edited by russellmania77 (15806 posts) - - Show Bio

Freddy the dream lord stomps.

ooh respect for the only man on freddy's side. thats cool

#17 Posted by RisingBean (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with the God that the Devil prays to over a burn victim too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids.

#18 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (20217 posts) - - Show Bio

fail thread

Agreed.

Going with the God that the Devil prays to over a burn victim too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids.

What does that even mean?

#19 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with the God that the Devil prays to over a burn victim too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids.

What does that even mean?

He's "going with the God (New God) that the devil prays to, over a burn victim who was too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids" it's plain English.

#20 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20217 posts) - - Show Bio

@princearagorn1 said:

Going with the God that the Devil prays to over a burn victim too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids.

What does that even mean?

He's "going with the God (New God) that the devil prays to, over a burn victim who was too chicken to face his killers and instead kills their kids" it's plain English.

I was asking him, not you.

#21 Posted by Bossmonster (2379 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid has no fears. it would be like when he fought jason in the dream world in the beginning of that fight.

Darkseid BFR`s Freddy to the Real World and has him reduced to ash.

fail thread

@walzo said:

Darkseid....

This shouldn't be a argument.

These

#22 Posted by THC (367 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator said:

Darkseid has a couple fears, but he is also used to dealing with beings far beyond Freddy.

I'm not entirely aware of Freddy's capabilities but I'm guessing that this battle in him realm would be entirely a battle of the mind, and their physical capabilities like Omega Beams and such would be rendered useless. If not, then I don't see why Darkseid couldn't just punch Freddy's head off.

Batman has outwitted far more powerful beings in DC on multiple occasions and it's common sense that willpower is insignificant to size or power, just look at the Green Lantern humans. What are Darkseid's "fears"?

#23 Posted by RisingBean (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: You got it. @princearagorn1: It was a cool phrase I heard used about Darkseid once. That he was the God the Devil prayed to. Sounds like a scary guy, huh? As per Freddy. He gets killed by some parents and then gains near infinite power. Rather then kill his killers, he kills kids who had no idea what had even occured. Sounds passive aggressive and chicken sh*t if you ask me.

#24 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

#25 Posted by Bo88gdan (4638 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid supereasy

#26 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

I was asking him, not you.

fact of the matter is that it was a simple statement he made and you had to have it spelled out for you, at that point it doesn't matter who you ask cus it was a stupid question.

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

#27 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

Yes, but Darkseid erases people from existence in the Real World... in the Dream World, Freddy could render Darkseid's Omega Powers useless against him... now if Darkseid manages to get Freddy out of the Dream World then it's a whole different ballgame...

#28 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days said:

@king_saturn said:

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

Yes, but Darkseid erases people from existence in the Real World... in the Dream World, Freddy could render Darkseid's Omega Powers useless against him... now if Darkseid manages to get Freddy out of the Dream World then it's a whole different ballgame...

Darkseid do have some way of dealing with something in the other dimension, he pulled Martin Stein out of Firestorm matrix before.

#29 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

@ancient_0f_days said:

@king_saturn said:

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

Yes, but Darkseid erases people from existence in the Real World... in the Dream World, Freddy could render Darkseid's Omega Powers useless against him... now if Darkseid manages to get Freddy out of the Dream World then it's a whole different ballgame...

Darkseid do have some way of dealing with something in the other dimension, he pulled Martin Stein out of Firestorm matrix before.

Yes, but Freddy is a Reality Warper in the Dream World... now I know Krueger has been bested by Teens before but that was PIS for the sake of the story and so on. Not saying DS could not do it... just don't think it will be easy.

#30 Posted by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry, but I don't give Freddy to much credit to begin with. I know some people claim that he is kind of a God in the Dream World, and I guess it's kind of true, since he has vast reality powers inside it, but with that in consideration I can't see him taking on someone on Darkseid's level. Heck, even most of Marvel and DC's street levelers could take him.

#31 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days said:

@king_saturn said:

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

Yes, but Darkseid erases people from existence in the Real World... in the Dream World, Freddy could render Darkseid's Omega Powers useless against him... now if Darkseid manages to get Freddy out of the Dream World then it's a whole different ballgame...

considering the fact that freddy knows nothing about Darkseid or his powers, he wouldn't even think to mess with the Omega Effect, chances are, he'd try to kill Darkseid some conventional way like he did one of them teens, it probably wont work since Darkseid technically cannot die and the only way he was "killed" was by a miracle machine. So neither of them can "die" but only one can be erased from existence.

#32 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

@ancient_0f_days said:

@king_saturn said:

I don't think Darkseid wins so easy here... the OP says that the battle is in the Dream World. In this setting, Freddy has his Reality Warping Powers. The only thing Darkseid could do to Freddy is show that he is not afraid of his power but that would only have Freddy go away. He could still come back... you can't really kill Freddy or get rid of him totally. We thought he was dead multiple times yet he still keeps coming back.

Well, Darkseid has been known to erase people from existence....so Freddy wouldn't be able to comeback if he got hit.

Yes, but Darkseid erases people from existence in the Real World... in the Dream World, Freddy could render Darkseid's Omega Powers useless against him... now if Darkseid manages to get Freddy out of the Dream World then it's a whole different ballgame...

considering the fact that freddy knows nothing about Darkseid or his powers, he wouldn't even think to mess with the Omega Effect, chances are, he'd try to kill Darkseid some conventional way like he did one of them teens, it probably wont work since Darkseid technically cannot die and the only way he was "killed" was by a miracle machine. So neither of them can "die" but only one can be erased from existence.

Well technically, if they are in the Dream World they would have to be in Darkseid's Dreams, meaning that Freddy could use the things Darkseid knows and manipulate them into Nightmares... so Freddy may not have to use conventional means to try and kill Darkseid... he would probably understand not to considering he is in the head of Darkseid.

#33 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

Well technically, if they are in the Dream World they would have to be in Darkseid's Dreams, meaning that Freddy could use the things Darkseid knows and manipulate them into Nightmares... so Freddy may not have to use conventional means to try and kill Darkseid... he would probably understand not to considering he is in the head of Darkseid.

Considering that nothing short of a miracle machine or Orion can even temporarily kill Uxas (maybe Yuga Khan) there isn't much for Freddy to work with. Also, Darkseid hasn't been known to sleep, but that's beside the point, he doesn't really have nightmares so I'm not sure how Freddy will be able to operate, the only thing Uxas has been known to fear is his father, and even if Freddy could use that, Darkseid's a genius, and would in no time come to the conclusion that he's in his own subconscious, Darkseid is a master manipulator as it is, how would Freddy maintain control while in a mind such as Darkseid's? I'm not sure he can work the same way when in the dreams of a god, which is a huge step up from teenagers.

#34 Edited by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

Well technically, if they are in the Dream World they would have to be in Darkseid's Dreams, meaning that Freddy could use the things Darkseid knows and manipulate them into Nightmares... so Freddy may not have to use conventional means to try and kill Darkseid... he would probably understand not to considering he is in the head of Darkseid.

Considering that nothing short of a miracle machine or Orion can even temporarily kill Uxas (maybe Yuga Khan) there isn't much for Freddy to work with. Also, Darkseid hasn't been known to sleep, but that's beside the point, he doesn't really have nightmares so I'm not sure how Freddy will be able to operate, the only thing Uxas has been known to fear is his father, and even if Freddy could use that, Darkseid's a genius, and would in no time come to the conclusion that he's in his own subconscious, Darkseid is a master manipulator as it is, how would Freddy maintain control while in a mind such as Darkseid's? I'm not sure he can work the same way when in the dreams of a god, which is a huge step up from teenagers.

Well the entire battle is a hypothetical... that's the beauty of it. If Darkseid was to sleep and Freddy was to invade his mind and operate in The Dream World what would happen ? Again, Freddy is a Reality Warper in the Dream World... even if Darkseid is a Master Manipulator... the Reality Warping of Freddy could override DS manipulation abilities... especially if Freddy uses his powers to essentially turn DS into a child again ( similar to how he did Jason in that Freddy vs Jason film in the Dream World ) if DS gets too mouthy while Freddy is doing his work. DS still has the chance of getting Krueger out of the Dream World...

#35 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: dimensional BFR seems to be the main option here, like how he did to High Father when he was in a dimensional prison that not even he could get out of. Shot some Omega Beams and bam...dimensional barrier broken .... if it can work in Freddy's Plot World Darkseid wins, turning him into a child won't do anything though, since he already is immortal.

#36 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: Couldn't Freddy kill him with a radion bullet like Batman did?

#37 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: Couldn't Freddy kill him with a radion bullet like Batman did?

Freddy don't know Darkseid's weaknesses, and Darkseid's Omega Beam can reach Freddy first (even Flash have problem outrunning it).

#40 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: dimensional BFR seems to be the main option here, like how he did to High Father when he was in a dimensional prison that not even he could get out of. Shot some Omega Beams and bam...dimensional barrier broken .... if it can work in Freddy's Plot World Darkseid wins, turning him into a child won't do anything though, since he already is immortal.

Immortal means one who cannot die... but it does not mean Eternal... in other words, one who is Immortal still has to learn and grow through life... it just does not die. The reason this is key here is because if Freddy could turn Darkseid into a child... he would have a mind of a child... regardless if he is Immortal or not. That could be key in at least binding up DS even if he can not kill him. The Dimensional BFR is an interesting option for DS... I guess it depends on which happens first...

#41 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: He shot a Radion bullet at him. I read that comic, that is a FACT. However, other factors contributed in killing Darkseid, too. Such as Wonder Woman's lasso, etc.

#42 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: He shot a Radion bullet at him. I read that comic, that is a FACT. However, other factors contributed in killing Darkseid, too. Such as Wonder Woman's lasso, etc.

The bullet didn't kill him. So none of that is relevant.

#43 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: It mortally wounded him and paved the pathway for the Heros to end him. If Batman hadn't fired the shot, Superman would have never gotten the chance to end Darkseid.

#44 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: It mortally wounded him and paved the pathway for the Heros to end him. If Batman hadn't fired the shot, Superman would have never gotten the chance to end Darkseid.

See, now this looks totally different than ....

@ancient_0f_days: Couldn't Freddy kill him with a radion bullet like Batman did?

mortally wounded, or killed ..... cus Darkseid didn't die from the bullet and what actually did shatter his body, was the Black Racer, led by the Flash ..... then Superman sang his soul away. Also, Orion did some damage as well, the bullet didn't kill or even mortally wound Darkseid, it slowed him down.

#45 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: It is your opinion that it didn't mortally wound, because you love Darkseid too much. Here's my point: It paved the pathway for a defeat of Darkseid. Plus, what's stopping Freddy from replicating Superman's singing? This is his dimension. Anything goes.

#46 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: It is your opinion that it didn't mortally wound, because you love Darkseid too much. Here's my point: It paved the pathway for a defeat of Darkseid. Plus, what's stopping Freddy from replicating Superman's singing? This is his dimension. Anything goes.

Because I love Darkseid too much? Even if that was true it'd be completely irrelevant.

So, we've gone from the radion bullet killing darkseid to it mortally wounding darkseid and now it paved the way for Superman to kill darkseid cus the bullet didn't kill darkseid.......pick one, make up your mind, then talk about.

Maybe you don't know how to properly make a battle thread, allowing one sided PIS powers and expecting them to win, when ironically...Freddy loses, cus he won't be able to figure out what can kill a god before getting shut out of Darkseid's mind and erased from existence.

#47 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: PIS? Ok. I'm just correcting you.

Can't erase Freddy from existence. He's always reborn in the Dream world. Fact.

It's a fact the bullet paved the way for Darkseid to die. A fact.

Don't know how to properly make a battle thread? Opinion.

"Freddy loses"

Alright, I'm not the debater here. I'm the referre. I'm just giving you facts.

#48 Posted by SlimJ87D (10700 posts) - - Show Bio

Freddy Kreuger is one of the dumbest characters I have seen used on these boards. His fighting skills suck and he has only killed stupid teenagers that usually end up defeating him in the end. He has lost or been defeated in every movie he has ever been in due to plot devices. It's consistent that he losses to plot.

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#49 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: PIS? Ok. I'm just correcting you.

Can't erase Freddy from existence. He's always reborn in the Dream world. Fact.

It's a fact the bullet paved the way for Darkseid to die. A fact.

Don't know how to properly make a battle thread? Opinion.

"Freddy loses"

Alright, I'm not the debater here. I'm the referre. I'm just giving you facts.

You said the bullet killed Darkseid and then said something completely different. Fact.

There is no one else in this battle for Freddy to access the dreamworld from, once Darkseid BFRs him out and erases him from existence there's no where to be reborn cus he will not have existed at all. Fact.

Putting a character who preys on teenagers and loses due to plot against am immortal who's demise was so complicated and convoluted that even in spirit form he had to be sung to death by superman with the aid of a miracle machine shows how little you know about actually making a good battle thread, and then you decided to insert a way you think freddy can kill darkseid (even though it was clearly wrong). Fact.

Based on the last statement, you can't say you're a ref when you posted this....

@ancient_0f_days: Couldn't Freddy kill him with a radion bullet like Batman did?

fact

#50 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid.