Franklin Richards vs Trigon

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Adult Franklin Richards vs New 52 Trigon

Fight till death.

Who wins?

FR

I'm inclined to say Richards win a majority. Although Trigon isn't to be underestimated.

Isn't Trigon around Eternity's level?

@eternityx: FR stomps hard, if he is in a good mood, he turns Trigun into some pretty flowers.

lol

I'd say Richards.

what? trigon is way more powerful than franklin richards. IIRC he needed his entire childhood worth of prep to beat the celestials.. adult franklin went back in time and told kid franklin to store up all his until he needs it to fight the celestials that's how he beat them...

@eternityx: Is this New 52 Trigon as shown in the picture?

Trigon. He's multiversal, FR is like....universal as a kid somehow weaker as an adult.

@killemall

FR

I am rather torn on this one.

I know Trigon was designed by Wolfman to be one of the most powerful entities in all of the 'common' DC world, but he's never come across someone like Franklin before, mainly because his kind doesn't really exist within DC without certain rules or personality traits that curb their power (like that of the Imps). And while Wolfman did leave hints and clues about Trigons levels of power, it's not depicted quite as boombastic as Marvel's reality warpers of modern times, certainly not when compared to what Franklin's done.

Based on these scans I believe New 52 Trigon would win

Trigon was merged with evil from nearly one hundred galaxies

Gallery

The Heart of Darkness leveled Universes

Trigon has conquered planets, galaxies, and Universes

Trigon is unafraid of the Presence

Gallery

@homicidalmaniac: it's pretty hard to gauge the power level of adult Franklin Richards because of his limited appearances. But when you have Galactus as your Herald , are capable of halting the collapse of infinite universes, capable and of fighting a mad celestial when a collective of 4 were powerful enough to threaten then entire multiverse , tank an attack from an alternate reality infinity gauntlet (a rectonned infinity gauntlet which was still powerful enough to create an entire universe from nothing as well as destroy a universe into nothing) tank an attack from an alternate reality infinity gauntlet.

He was also able to turn off his grandfather's powers off not sure if that would count as anything in the thread.

He should be powerful enough to compete but adult Franklin has too little appearance to conclusively make a case either way at least that's how I personally feel.

@killemall: Didn't Adult Franklin Richard made a recent appearance in Avengers #32?

You're not remembering correctly. Adult Franklin didn't need the prep of his entire childhood. Since adult Franklin knew the future, he knew Galactus would be killed, so he had his kid version store up energy for a couple months (some of which kid franklin used) in order to revive Galactus. Adult Franklin didn't use any of that energy to fight the Celestials; he only used it to revive Galactus.

@killemall

Adult Franklin was halting collapse of infinite universes? I never understood that part of the story, i.e., why he kept trying to create a reality. Do you have the scans that explain this? I would really appreciate it.

Franklin is like an Universal scale Reality Warper.. what can Trigon do to him??

lol well then xD i'm ashamed to say i loved that issue

@uberhikari: I do but can't post till tomorrow till I reach home.

FR

@homicidalmaniac: haven't read Avengers 32 won't be able to read it till tomorrow.

I haven't read comics that came out this week and last week. So yeah a lot of catching up to do :)

Ok. Thanks.

Franklin

Yep, I should probably specify that in the OP.

Stalemate

Franklin may lose,but he is vastly more powerful,and Trigon is not multiversal. franklin Richard is the multiversal being here,but his experience is lacking.

trigon

Franklin after actually reading a trigon comic he's preetty featless.

Nah he foguht evenly with Mr. Mxyzptlk. I can post you the entire battle if you want.

Hard to say wanna say franklin here

@lejon: Naa he only did that in injustice which is non-canon.

the new 52 trigon loses to richard

trigon composite however would take him down. in comparison to his new 52 form he is not only "not afraid" of the presence but said to be on par with the spectre, who draws his power from the presence to a multiversal level max

being the very primal essence of the birth of the universe with massive experience on conquering and fighting foes on different magnitudes all over different universes is above FR expertise

but as i said for this fight: new 52 trigon loses

Someone said FR needed his entire "childhood" to beat the Celestials. Where is the evidence?

Adult FR came from the future to teach Child FR, who at the time, was already EQUAL to the Celestials, meaning Adult FR is wayyyy stronger than them.

Let me know when Trigon scares the top 5 strongest beings in your universe and has an abstract being known as Galan on his side (Galactus) and basically has the power cosmic.

Btw Adult Frank one-shotted a Celestial just by punching it with a small boost of cosmic energy.

This is Adult FR who is (well a few writers said he was) either on, ir is completely near Multiverse level while Trigon is a few steps from it.

Btw to me, Franks Cosmic Manipulation/Molecul Manipulation/Reality Warping abilities outmatch Trigon.

Not to mention FR has the strongest form of RW while Trigon's is a level behind him. Basically JJ and FR are both the final RW masters.

Completely, LT is the strongest character in Marvel as TOAA is the writer/creator which makes it unfair.

LT and the Celestials tried to recruit FR as a child and FR/Galactus rekted the Celestials.

Bump

FR

Trigon, obviously, someone that the Presence make deals with

In fact, I don't think FR can permanently put down even Trigon's sons, that he consider weak and useless

Trigon

FR

Not a contest.

franklin

Trigon

franklin, kid franklin shaped the current marvel multiverse

It's hard to judge franklins power since he needed years of childhood prep to accomplish his celestial feat. Which he would not get in this battle so I say stalemate for now.

Franklin gets my vote. Better feats.

Trigon

Trigon stomps.

Trigon.