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#1 Posted by GraspThePower (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Ive been wondering who would win,

#2 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think you have.

#3 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

Terrible Mismatch. Franklin Muderstomps Hulk

#4 Posted by space_coyote (1132 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite and a half

#5 Posted by WillPayton (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

I so love to bust out my kitty picture.

#6 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

#7 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

#8 Posted by YoungJustice (6800 posts) - - Show Bio

The real battle is this thread vs the lock.

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#9 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

#10 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Im gonna need to see a scan proving the first part about limitations to his warping. and even though I think everything you said after that is wrong he is going to have far more knowlege on the Hulk than he would on celestials. I dont even know why I typed this. This is a spite thread

#11 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

#12 Edited by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

looooooooooool Awesome. He would literally Kill Hulk with Toy guns

#13 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

HAHAHAAH

#14 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Heck no.

Franklin doesnt know Memphisto's power source either, nor did he knew he was amped by Dire Wrath, but what happened, Memphisto got stomped!

#15 Posted by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Pretty sure Franklin has probably heard the words "Gamma Radiation" from his dad on more than one occasion.

#16 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Heck no.

Franklin doesnt know Memphisto's power source either, nor did he knew he was amped by Dire Wrath, but what happened, Memphisto got stomped!

All he did was BFR Mephisto. Of course he is capable of that.

#17 Edited by MasterM0r0n (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungJustice

Yup.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning

...?

Franklin can battle field remove hulk into the sun.

What's your point?

@GraspThePower

Welcome to ComicVine!

To answer your question, Franklin Richards will Murd3r The Hulk, since he can bend reality itself, understand? ^-^

And before making your thread, please think through all the details before you do, thanks!

(You can help from the mods, or even me!)

hope I helped.

@WillPayton

You can at least start by introducing our new member to the Vine, lol right? xD

post by,

Master M0r0n

#18 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

All he did was BFR Mephisto. Of course he is capable of that.

He BFRed memphisto after he was incapacitated, stop making stuffs up.

#19 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

All he did was BFR Mephisto. Of course he is capable of that.

He BFRed memphisto after he was incapacitated, stop making stuffs up.

#20 Posted by WillPayton (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

Awesome!

#21 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Im gonna need to see a scan proving the first part about limitations to his warping. and even though I think everything you said after that is wrong he is going to have far more knowlege on the Hulk than he would on celestials. I dont even know why I typed this. This is a spite thread

Beyonder easily defeated the entire Celestial race including OAA just promote a thought. He knew everything about them while giving them some time to try to scan the sources of his power. But when he tried to study Hulk, he need much more time to analyse his source than he did with the Celestials.

Hyperspace is closely related to the Four Fundamental Forces of the Universe unlike Hulk's extradimensional energy source.

#22 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Depends if Franklin know what the source of Hulk's power is and how to deal with it.

Beyonder already knows.... But does Franklin?

What would that matter to Franklin?

He can't warp something he doesn't know about.

Granted he knows what to do with Celestial because he's been hearing and learning about them for years. His mother's power relates to their area of space.

He can BFR Hulk if he wishes, but transmuting him won't work as well.

Im gonna need to see a scan proving the first part about limitations to his warping. and even though I think everything you said after that is wrong he is going to have far more knowlege on the Hulk than he would on celestials. I dont even know why I typed this. This is a spite thread

Beyonder easily defeated the entire Celestial race including OAA just promote a thought. He knew everything about them while giving them some time to try to scan the sources of his power. But when he tried to study Hulk, he need much more time to analyse his source than he did with the Celestials.

Hyperspace is closely related to the Four Fundamental Forces of the Universe unlike Hulk's extradimensional energy source.

? All I see is Beyonder Realizing Banner is no longer present. There is no mystical power blocking or making it harder for him to know what he needed too about the hulk

#23 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like I spend more time flagging spite hulk threads than commenting on them

#24 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

All he did was BFR Mephisto. Of course he is capable of that.

He BFRed memphisto after he was incapacitated, stop making stuffs up.

He was incapacitated due to PIS of the repelling of the Waiths which somehow weakened him during mid battle with Franklin. Mephisto was doing just fine until PIS ensued. Also, Mephisto's greatest weakness is Innocence which was also used against him when facing Franklin (Sited: when Blackheart tricked Mephisto to take a blood of an innocent which pretty much depowered him).

Now that Franklin is an adult with less innocence, he won't be as effective against Mephisto anymore.

But this case is aside of the discussion that we're talking about. Hulk's source of Power is not Evil like Mephisto's is..... His power source is extradimensional, something we have never seen Franklin manipulate.

#25 Edited by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said

But this case is aside of the discussion that we're talking about. Hulk's source of Power is not Evil like Mephisto's is..... His power source is extradimensional, something we have never seen Franklin manipulate.

What are you talking about?? You honestly believe that the Hulks power source(Gamma radiation) is more exotic than mephisto's and celestails?

#26 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said

But this case is aside of the discussion that we're talking about. Hulk's source of Power is not Evil like Mephisto's is..... His power source is extradimensional, something we have never seen Franklin manipulate.

What are you talking about?

LOL i think he just lost it :p

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Now that Franklin is an adult with less innocence, he won't be as effective against Mephisto anymore.

Yep scan totally shows all he did was BFR :p

#27 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said

But this case is aside of the discussion that we're talking about. Hulk's source of Power is not Evil like Mephisto's is..... His power source is extradimensional, something we have never seen Franklin manipulate.

What are you talking about?? You honestly believe that the Hulks power source(Gamma radiation) is more exotic than mephisto's and celestails?

Gamma Radiation is what mutated him. When he turns into the Hulk, he's NOT made out of Gamma Radiation LOL.

#28 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically Franklin could just make it so Hulk doesn't exist so I have to go with the kid here.

#29 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said

But this case is aside of the discussion that we're talking about. Hulk's source of Power is not Evil like Mephisto's is..... His power source is extradimensional, something we have never seen Franklin manipulate.

What are you talking about?

LOL i think he just lost it :p

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Now that Franklin is an adult with less innocence, he won't be as effective against Mephisto anymore.

Yep scan totally shows all he did was BFR :p

You're misunderstanding the entire context of the issue. Mephisto was winning......

He even captured and subdued Franklin until Dr. Strange had to interfere. And then the Innocence PIS Weakness plus the Repelling of the Evil Dire Waiths......

You believe what you want, but after reading your opinion about the matter suggests to me that you've never read the issue... You're only going by out of context scans and 'believing what you see over the true context of the story..

#30 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Gamma Radiation is what mutated him. When he turns into the Hulk, he's NOT made out of Gamma Radiation LOL.

Tell that to silver surfer :p

#31 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Gamma Radiation is what mutated him. When he turns into the Hulk, he's NOT made out of Gamma Radiation LOL.

Tell that to silver surfer :p

Tall that to Hulk's creator.

#32 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Gamma Radiation is what mutated him. When he turns into the Hulk, he's NOT made out of Gamma Radiation LOL.

Tell that to silver surfer :p

And speaking about Silver Surfer's opinion.....

"Now that I have had a chance to study the Quantum Flux around you at close range -- The Phenomenon grows more.... Baffling... The Energy that you are generating appears to have a quality that is almost.... Inter-Dimensional...." - Silver Surfer

#33 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Killemall said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Gamma Radiation is what mutated him. When he turns into the Hulk, he's NOT made out of Gamma Radiation LOL.

Tell that to silver surfer :p

Tall that to Hulk's creator.

The scan shows that only the extra mass he gains when he turns into the hulk is "maybe" borrowed from another dimension. Power source is clearly stated to be the gamma radiation. You are running wildly out of context with these scans

#34 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr: The power source isn't gamma because if that were true, eveyone would die being a few miles away from Hulk.

Let's take a closer look....

"Gamma radiation fortified his cellular structure"

Even if the gamma radiation is still there or is only activated through rage, it doesn't generate nothing, otherwise people die without him even touching them. His cells act like a corridor that streams that power which is the energy that is being generated. Not Gamma.

#35 Posted by toby5678910 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin teleports Hulk into the center of the sun - end of story

#36 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

This should be locked Hulk can't take richards. This is the definition of a mismatch.

#37 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr: The power source isn't gamma because if that were true, eveyone would die being a few miles away from Hulk.

Let's take a closer look....

"Gamma radiation fortified his cellular structure"

Even if the gamma radiation is still there or is only activated through rage, it doesn't generate nothing, otherwise people die without him even touching them. His cells act like a corridor that streams that power which is the energy that is being generated. Not Gamma.

Somebody please show the scans of Tony Stark or Darwin both Siphoning Gamma from Hulk. Im sure there are other scans that clearly show he gives off gamma. blame people not getting sick on writers. and nothing in that scan supports his energy being from anything but Gamma. you are reading that scan to fit into your notion of where his power derives from

#38 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@toby5678910 said:

Franklin teleports Hulk into the center of the sun - end of story

Yes... BFR. Thank you, but the sun isn't the best option.

In Planet Hulk, the Hulk swam to the center of the planet Sakaar to pull it back together after the Red King tried to destroy it. If Sakaar is anything like Earth, it's core temperature is somewhere along the lines of 4500 to 7000 degrees Celsius. While the sun's surface temperature ranges around 5500 to 6000 degrees. So if the Hulk could take the heat, given all the radiation the sun puts out, I think not only would he survive, he'd eventually come back way stronger than ever.

Edit: Just noticed you said center... While the sun's surface is in the thousands of degrees, its core is around 20 million. It's a constantly-exploding H-bomb.

I don't know the Hulk's top durability feat, so I can't judge, but I suspect he wouldn't survive that for too long unless his healing factor can constantly catch up to the heat.

#39 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Gritterr: The power source isn't gamma because if that were true, eveyone would die being a few miles away from Hulk.

Let's take a closer look....

"Gamma radiation fortified his cellular structure"

Even if the gamma radiation is still there or is only activated through rage, it doesn't generate nothing, otherwise people die without him even touching them. His cells act like a corridor that streams that power which is the energy that is being generated. Not Gamma.

Somebody please show the scans of Tony Stark or Darwin both Siphoning Gamma from Hulk. Im sure there are other scans that clearly show he gives off gamma. blame people not getting sick on writers. and nothing in that scan supports his energy being from anything but Gamma. you are reading that scan to fit into your notion of where his power derives from

Well, if we're going to sit here and blame writers (we always do anyway) who's to say and blame when a writer comes and uses Hulk to defeat Franklin that that shouldn't be? If we're going by writer perspective, any character can beat any character.

#40 Posted by toby5678910 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@toby5678910 said:

Franklin teleports Hulk into the center of the sun - end of story

Yes... BFR. Thank you, but the sun isn't the best option.

In Planet Hulk, the Hulk swam to the center of the planet Sakaar to pull it back together after the Red King tried to destroy it. If Sakaar is anything like Earth, it's core temperature is somewhere along the lines of 4500 to 7000 degrees Celsius. While the sun's surface temperature ranges around 5500 to 6000 degrees. So if the Hulk could take the heat, given all the radiation the sun puts out, I think not only would he survive, he'd eventually come back way stronger than ever.

Edit: Just noticed you said center... While the sun's surface is in the thousands of degrees, its core is around 20 million. It's a constantly-exploding H-bomb.

I don't know the Hulk's top durability feat, so I can't judge, but I suspect he wouldn't survive that for too long unless his healing factor can constantly catch up to the heat.

Thats not BFR, thats death... Hulk isnt superman, he would be incinerated instantly.

#41 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

#42 Posted by space_coyote (1132 posts) - - Show Bio

This hasn't been locked yet?

#43 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

spite

#44 Posted by GhostRider2 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope, and Franklin stomps.

#45 Posted by Ms. Omega (4450 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats to keep Franklin from trapping Hulk in a pocket universe like he did when Onslaught was defeated?

#46 Posted by Dextersinister (6023 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is a product of science so there is nothing mystical or supernatural about him whatsoever, this should afford him no protection from Franklin can do.

#47 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL

#48 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin richards wins

#49 Posted by Nefarious (19838 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin Smash.