Franklin Richards vs Lucifer Morningstar

#1 Edited by The_Soverighn (1770 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Rules

Win By Any Way Possible

One Year Prep For Frank

One Week Prep For The Morningstar

Outside Help If Needed

Go Crazy With Imagination

Location

Opponents

#2 Posted by The_Soverighn (1770 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

My Fav Frank Feat.

#3 Posted by sync1 (765 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Franklin Richards

#4 Posted by XiiX (2447 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer spanks him like a child.

#5 Posted by Gritterr (407 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Franklin is awesome but Lucifer is on a completely different level

#6 Posted by SlimJ87D (7249 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

This is quite a spite as Lucifer and Michael together are suppose to be equal to LT, or so I hear. Unless if Jesus exist in the DC Universe.

Franklin Richards is far from on par with any of those 3. Lastly,

@The_Soverighn said:

My Fav Frank Feat.

This is not a Franklin Richard feat on his own. This was accomplished with Prep and Young Franklin Richards. Lets not exaggerate Franklin's power here. He had to tell his young self to gather his power and store it for months. MONTHS! And all it did was revive Galactus.

So this is a Franklin, Young Franklin and Galactus Feat all together.

#7 Posted by The_Soverighn (1770 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@XiiX: @SlimJ87D: @Gritterr: I TRIED TO ADJUST THE OP TO MAKE IT MORE LEVELED

#8 Posted by X_insignia1 (917 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer and Michael rival the LT separately, together they're even greater, nonetheless, Morningstar stomps, he's out of Franklin's league..

#9 Posted by No_Trolling (482 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Franklin can pull it off with one year prep. Don't forget that outside help is also allowed.

#10 Posted by Killemall (13947 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Unless the outside help includes calling upon TOAA or LT, i do not see how Franklin could do anything here.

#11 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

#12 Posted by SlimJ87D (7249 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

#13 Edited by icysloth (1305 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D said:

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

Dunamis Demiurgos Michael has the power to create anything, lucifer has the power to alter anything to his whim. Together they have the power to create an omniverse, or alter reality so LT doesn't exist in any universe and thus doesn't exist in the omniverse.

#14 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer stomps

#15 Edited by SlimJ87D (7249 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D said:

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

Dunamis Demiurgos Michael has the power to create anything, lucifer has the power to alter anything to his whim. Together they have the power to create an omniverse, or alter reality so LT doesn't exist in any universe and thus doesn't exist in the omniverse.

I know that, but how do you know LT doesn't have both of those powers combined? What makes them stronger than LT? And what completely confirms it? Or is that a guess of speculation?

#16 Posted by Spartan101 (1536 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Unless the outside help includes calling upon TOAA or LT, i do not see how Franklin could do anything here.

#17 Edited by icysloth (1305 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: I don't but he has never shown both these powers and has never been stated as a creater of the marvel multiverse, so because we go by feats he doesn't have those powers. He is a judge. But Lucifer has also been a judge before as he judges evil souls for all eternity, he has had his own solo series to compile more feats, lots of marvel fanboys like to speculate on the limits of his powers but at the end of the day its just speculation. Like the arguement in this thread he exist in every possible marvel reality. Well by that logic he exist in noncanon realities and his weaknesses in these realities confirm he can die. See marvel the end, he would have to destroy the entire marvel multiverse to destroy thanos and in doing so dies himself. Lucifer is greater than LT strickly because he existed before the DC omniverse. In fact he shaped it so he exists outside of it. LT doesn't. Destroy the marvel omniverse destroy LT, and because Lucifer can shape all reality to his whim he can destroy all of it.

#18 Posted by girugamesh (413 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

#19 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@girugamesh said:

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

Morningstar is stronger than LT

#20 Posted by girugamesh (413 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@girugamesh said:

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

Morningstar is stronger than LT

Funny guy.

#21 Posted by YoungJustice (5738 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@The_Soverighn said:

@XiiX: @SlimJ87D: @Gritterr: I TRIED TO ADJUST THE OP TO MAKE IT MORE LEVELED

Caps lock stuck?

#22 Posted by Nefarious (16458 posts) - 8 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Massive mismatch.

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#23 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 8 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

LUCIFER

#24 Posted by Sethlol (1272 posts) - 8 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer rapes.

#25 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2362 posts) - 8 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer

#26 Posted by Primebonnick (470 posts) - 8 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

Are you mad Lucifer would just convince the poor kid his life was meaningless and he kills himself. Yes he is that good

#27 Posted by staphin (182 posts) - 4 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar

#28 Posted by ThunderGodsWrath (6209 posts) - 4 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar.

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