#1 Edited by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

Win By Any Way Possible

One Year Prep For Frank

One Week Prep For The Morningstar

Outside Help If Needed

Go Crazy With Imagination

Location

Opponents

#2 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

My Fav Frank Feat.

#3 Posted by sync1 (2867 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin Richards

#4 Posted by XiiX (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer spanks him like a child.

#5 Posted by Gritterr (489 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin is awesome but Lucifer is on a completely different level

#6 Posted by SlimJ87D (9353 posts) - - Show Bio

This is quite a spite as Lucifer and Michael together are suppose to be equal to LT, or so I hear. Unless if Jesus exist in the DC Universe.

Franklin Richards is far from on par with any of those 3. Lastly,

@The_Soverighn said:

My Fav Frank Feat.

This is not a Franklin Richard feat on his own. This was accomplished with Prep and Young Franklin Richards. Lets not exaggerate Franklin's power here. He had to tell his young self to gather his power and store it for months. MONTHS! And all it did was revive Galactus.

So this is a Franklin, Young Franklin and Galactus Feat all together.

#7 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: @SlimJ87D: @Gritterr: I TRIED TO ADJUST THE OP TO MAKE IT MORE LEVELED

#8 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer and Michael rival the LT separately, together they're even greater, nonetheless, Morningstar stomps, he's out of Franklin's league..

#9 Posted by No_Trolling (653 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin can pull it off with one year prep. Don't forget that outside help is also allowed.

#10 Posted by Killemall (18296 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless the outside help includes calling upon TOAA or LT, i do not see how Franklin could do anything here.

#11 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

#12 Posted by SlimJ87D (9353 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

#13 Edited by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D said:

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

Dunamis Demiurgos Michael has the power to create anything, lucifer has the power to alter anything to his whim. Together they have the power to create an omniverse, or alter reality so LT doesn't exist in any universe and thus doesn't exist in the omniverse.

#14 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer stomps

#15 Edited by SlimJ87D (9353 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D said:

@icysloth said:

@SlimJ87D: Lucifer and Michael together are above LT, read lucifer's vertigo series. Together they have all the powers of the presence.

I doubt it, that doesn't make sense mathematically. Otherwise that would make the presence seem weaker than TOAA if he had to split his power to create such beings.

Dunamis Demiurgos Michael has the power to create anything, lucifer has the power to alter anything to his whim. Together they have the power to create an omniverse, or alter reality so LT doesn't exist in any universe and thus doesn't exist in the omniverse.

I know that, but how do you know LT doesn't have both of those powers combined? What makes them stronger than LT? And what completely confirms it? Or is that a guess of speculation?

#16 Posted by Spartan101 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Unless the outside help includes calling upon TOAA or LT, i do not see how Franklin could do anything here.

#17 Edited by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: I don't but he has never shown both these powers and has never been stated as a creater of the marvel multiverse, so because we go by feats he doesn't have those powers. He is a judge. But Lucifer has also been a judge before as he judges evil souls for all eternity, he has had his own solo series to compile more feats, lots of marvel fanboys like to speculate on the limits of his powers but at the end of the day its just speculation. Like the arguement in this thread he exist in every possible marvel reality. Well by that logic he exist in noncanon realities and his weaknesses in these realities confirm he can die. See marvel the end, he would have to destroy the entire marvel multiverse to destroy thanos and in doing so dies himself. Lucifer is greater than LT strickly because he existed before the DC omniverse. In fact he shaped it so he exists outside of it. LT doesn't. Destroy the marvel omniverse destroy LT, and because Lucifer can shape all reality to his whim he can destroy all of it.

#18 Posted by girugamesh (439 posts) - - Show Bio

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

#19 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

@girugamesh said:

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

Morningstar is stronger than LT

#20 Posted by girugamesh (439 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

@girugamesh said:

Ridiculous stomp for Morningstar.

But people need to calm down, Morningstar is not as strong as the LT.

Morningstar is stronger than LT

Funny guy.

#21 Posted by YoungJustice (6684 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Soverighn said:

@XiiX: @SlimJ87D: @Gritterr: I TRIED TO ADJUST THE OP TO MAKE IT MORE LEVELED

Caps lock stuck?

#22 Posted by Nefarious (18825 posts) - - Show Bio

Massive mismatch.

#23 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

LUCIFER

#24 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer rapes.

#25 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2854 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer

#26 Posted by Primebonnick (1781 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you mad Lucifer would just convince the poor kid his life was meaningless and he kills himself. Yes he is that good

#27 Posted by staphin (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar

#28 Posted by New_World_Order (12587 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar.

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#29 Edited by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmmmmm... bump?

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#31 Edited by God_of_Wrath (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer!!!

The answer is still Lucifer!

#32 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this Pre-NDCU Lucifer? If that so, he stomps. With or without prep.

#33 Posted by Cable_Extreme (8676 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer, "I CHOOSE YOU"'!!!

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#34 Posted by vintage_spiderman (1193 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#35 Edited by Killerwasp (2820 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix said:

Lucifer spanks him like a child.

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#36 Posted by DBVSE7 (2747 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningwood > Franklin Dicks

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#37 Posted by aquaman01 (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously? I mean, I loved Hickman's run with Franklin, but Lucifer destroys him.

#38 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32869 posts) - - Show Bio

Being a universal constant I'm not sure Franklin can actually die but I'm sure Lucy would have other ways to take him out.

#39 Posted by JwwProd (8751 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch, Lucifer stomps.

#40 Posted by OriginalGL_Alan (236 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyond mismatch here. Lucifer unholyroflgodstomps Franklin Richards

#41 Edited by dondave (34641 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer

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#42 Edited by Egemensson (238 posts) - - Show Bio

this one's not even worthy of a serious answer but wanna make one thing clear;

one year prep for franklin is utterly pointless, since lucifer is a true-omniscient being.

#43 Posted by those_eyes (5075 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer says you gonna get this work.