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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Both have recently taken on Venom... but when happens when they go head-to-head?

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Unpopulated. Vehicles are stationary.

Rules:

-Random encounter.

-Begin 50 feet apart.

-Standard gear for Kraven.

-In character.

-Standard elimination rules apply.

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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Does Kraven really have "standard gear"?

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#3  Edited By jashro44

Nice thread! I say human fly wins. I think he has the advantage of flight and his acid breath should be helpful for bypassing kravens healing factor. This would be a epic fight though and I can see kraven taking a minority.

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#4  Edited By TrueIlluminatus
@Vance Astro said:
Does Kraven really have "standard gear"?
Leopard-skin vest and a big knife.
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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@jashro44 said:
Nice thread! I say human fly wins. I think he has the advantage of flight and his acid breath should be helpful for bypassing kravens healing factor. This would be a epic fight though and I can see kraven taking a minority.
I see Flight as more of a handicap than an advantage even with acid breath.
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#6  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Vance Astro said:

Does Kraven really have "standard gear"?

New writers tend to introduce new devices, but for threads I tend to treat it as an assortment of knives, spears, nets and bolas.

@jashro44: Thanks. We haven't really seen what it takes to drop Kraven yet, but I imagine those sharp wings and acid can definitely do the trick with time.

@Illuminatus: And a mustache. We must never forget the mustache.

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#7  Edited By jashro44
@Vance Astro said:
@jashro44 said:
Nice thread! I say human fly wins. I think he has the advantage of flight and his acid breath should be helpful for bypassing kravens healing factor. This would be a epic fight though and I can see kraven taking a minority.
I see Flight as more of a handicap than an advantage even with acid breath.
Really why?
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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:

New writers tend to introduce new devices, but for threads I tend to treat it as an assortment of knives, spears, nets and bolas.

Understood.I'm going to go with Kraven here.Kraven has skill highly in his favor and with his speed and agility it would be hard for Fly to pull of anything that is really going to put Kraven down.Fly is able to fly but his best asset in flight is his acid vomit which I don't see Kraven having trouble avoiding, plus in flight I think character lose some mobility, someone as fast as Kraven on foot would be alot more maneuverable than the Fly is so even with his expanded field of vision because of his mutation I find it hard to believe that he would have anything substantial for Kraven offensively.
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#9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Vance Astro: I'm not sure Kraven's speed would render him too difficult for Fly. He managed to do pretty well against Hobgoblin in close range and Venom called him "fast as hell" when Fly returned fire with his acid.

(thanks to for making the scan)

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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:

@Vance Astro: I'm not sure Kraven's speed would render thing too difficult for Fly. He managed to do pretty well against Hobgoblin in close range and Venom called him "fast as hell" when Fly returned fire with his acid.

I'm not trying to paint Kraven as a speedster but what I'm saying is in flight when Kraven is dodging and moving it's going to be hard for him to actually connect with Kraven because he can only move so many ways while flying via wings.I think Fly has superhuman reaction time, but I don't think his actual land speed is superhuman.
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#11  Edited By InnerVenom123

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

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#12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@InnerVenom123 said:

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

Kraven wins because of epic lion vest.
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#13  Edited By InnerVenom123

@Vance Astro said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

Kraven wins because of epic lion vest.

Which will melt.

Because acid spit.

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#14  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@InnerVenom123 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

Kraven wins because of epic lion vest.

Which will melt.

Because acid spit.

Which won't melt  
Because of epicness
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#15  Edited By InnerVenom123

@Vance Astro said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

Kraven wins because of epic lion vest.

Which will melt.

Because acid spit.

Which won't melt Because of epicness

No, but seriously.

How will Kraven withstand acid spit?

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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@InnerVenom123: Oh lordies, please make scans of the full fight!

"I'M EATING YOUR ASSASSIN!"

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#17  Edited By InnerVenom123

@k4tzm4n:

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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@InnerVenom123: Such a good issue. It's a shame Venom had to interrupt, but at least he did it with style.

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#19  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Oh, and that face Kingpin is making is definitely avatar worthy!

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#20  Edited By InnerVenom123

@k4tzm4n said:

Oh, and that face Kingpin is making is definitely avatar worthy!

Totally.

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#21  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@InnerVenom123 said:

No, but seriously.

How will Kraven withstand acid spit?

By not getting spit on...
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#22  Edited By InnerVenom123

@Vance Astro said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

No, but seriously.

How will Kraven withstand acid spit?

By not getting spit on...

So there's no chance he'll get hit... at all...?

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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@InnerVenom123 said:

So there's no chance he'll get hit... at all...?

Nope.Kraven will end it quick.
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#24  Edited By entropy_aegis

Kraven hunts the fly,he baits it with poop.

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#25  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@entropy_aegis: LOL

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Fly, unless someone convinces me otherwise.

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#27  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@venomoushatred1001: Not taking sides, but with this starting distance it's possible Sergei could tag him with a dagger/spear.

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#28  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@venomoushatred1001 said:

Fly, unless someone convinces me otherwise.

Fighting skill in comics especially with this gap always seems to be the only advantage needed to win fights in comics.
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@Vance Astro: @k4tzm4n: Wouldn't Fly acid vomit be too much for Kravinoff? Not to mention Fly has the ability to fly.

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#30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@venomoushatred1001: It would definitely take a toll on Kraven, but unless Fly keeps at it, I imagine Sergei's healing factor would take over.

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#31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Vance Astro: @k4tzm4n: Wouldn't Fly acid vomit be too much for Kravinoff? Not to mention Fly has the ability to fly.

Is it impossible to dodge?
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@Vance Astro said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Vance Astro: @k4tzm4n: Wouldn't Fly acid vomit be too much for Kravinoff? Not to mention Fly has the ability to fly.

Is it impossible to dodge?

I guess not. It depends on who hits who first.

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#33  Edited By jashro44
@Vance Astro said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Vance Astro: @k4tzm4n: Wouldn't Fly acid vomit be too much for Kravinoff? Not to mention Fly has the ability to fly.

Is it impossible to dodge?
Well no but its not really to simple to dodge either. When fly spat his acid flash said he was "fast as hell".
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Since when did the fly get an upgrade?

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Death Certificate: He was revived in Remender's Punisher run.

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#36  Edited By jeanroygrant

@InnerVenom123 said:

Human Fly wins because acid-spit.

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#37  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

So no one thinks Kraven stands a chance with that starting distance?