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#1 Edited by jumpstart55 (2279 posts) - - Show Bio
      
VS
#2 Posted by jumpstart55 (2279 posts) - - Show Bio

Who takes it.

#3 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

That's Barry...

#4 Edited by jumpstart55 (2279 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:

" That's Barry... "

O yea, i  assumed it was wally since he was in rebirth aswell. 
Any ways i  just changed it to wally.
#5 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

Teth. Wally's too predictable. Teth knows better.

#6 Posted by Fortanono (4889 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally.

#7 Posted by TimDrakeRedRobin (357 posts) - - Show Bio

dont forget one of the gods that make up the letters of SHAZAM is the god of speed. 
That with his other stuff and Black Adam destroys wally...sorry wally =(

#8 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

 
 
Wally
#9 Edited by Crom-Cruach (8898 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam stomps Wally into a gooey red smear.

#10 Posted by Icon (2083 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
" That's Barry... "
It's Wally, you can tell from the V shape of the belt. Also, that was a cover to an issue of Flash starring Wally before Barry returned (I think issue 230-something, can't remember). 
#11 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio
@Icon said:
" @Sexy Merc said:
" That's Barry... "
It's Wally, you can tell from the V shape of the belt. Also, that was a cover to an issue of Flash starring Wally before Barry returned (I think issue 230-something, can't remember).  "
@jumpstart55 said:
"Any ways i  just changed it to wally. "
#12 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

@TimDrakeRedRobin said:

"dont forget one of the gods that make up the letters of SHAZAM is the god of speed."


 

Speed of Mercury only serves to add to Wally's speed when he steals it away.
#13 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
"

@TimDrakeRedRobin said:

"dont forget one of the gods that make up the letters of SHAZAM is the god of speed."


 

Speed of Mercury only serves to add to Wally's speed when he steals it away. "
yea im leaning on flash due to IMP, speed force trapping (don't know how teth will get himself out of that) and speed stealing and way way faster reaction and reflex speed. Very interesting match up. Flash 6/10.  
Btw sorry for the bump.:P
#14 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash maybe, if he fights out of character and goes bloodlust
#15 Posted by SlimJ87D (10306 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam gets Flashed. 

#16 Posted by GuruOfFunk (442 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally takes it.

#17 Posted by ComicStooge (13370 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash beats him into a coma.
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#18 Posted by benjoe11 (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash rolls...to to fast....especially when he steals all of teths speed

#19 Posted by JediXMan (30930 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally.

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#20 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally

#21 Posted by HumanNumber (1467 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam is too slow.

#22 Posted by Jodema (475 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:


                   

@TimDrakeRedRobin said:


"dont forget one of the gods that make up the letters of SHAZAM is the god of speed."


 

Speed of Mercury only serves to add to Wally's speed when he steals it away.

                   

               

You gave me life just now with this comment... 
 
 
Wally takes this one nicely.
#23 Posted by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.

#24 Posted by MrDirector786 (43607 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally

#25 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro said:
Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.
that wouldn't be a very interesting story.
#26 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro said:
Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.
where was black adam when zoom was kicking everybody's a*# .... wisdom of gods? even his co called gods are too slow to stop wally
#27 Posted by benjoe11 (60 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro: Wally wasnt on earth during ww3. He was currently in the speed force. Had he been the story wouldnt have been interesting at all.
#28 Posted by Illuminatus (9510 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro said:
Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.  
 
#29 Posted by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio
@benjoe11 said:
@Baltoro: Wally wasnt on earth during ww3. He was currently in the speed force. Had he been the story wouldnt have been interesting at all.
There will be no excuses.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he would have stepped up to Black Adam.  It would not have been pretty though because Black Adam was going nuts in that comic and there is no way the Flash could have stopped him.  Black Adam could probably just thunderclap KO the Flash since Zoom's sonic booms hurt the flash.
#30 Edited by PikminMania (4628 posts) - - Show Bio
@TimDrakeRedRobin: Black Adam doesn't use SHAZAM, he uses something else.
 
Wally wins btw
#31 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@PikminMania said:
@TimDrakeRedRobin: Black Adam doesn't use SHAZAM, he uses something else.  Wally wins btw
...yes he does.
#32 Posted by PikminMania (4628 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut:  I meant he doesn't use the same acronyms, like S isn't for solomon its for Shu
#33 Posted by GTG12 (1575 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally
#34 Posted by benjoe11 (60 posts) - - Show Bio
@PikminMania: Yea there egyptian gods. Still says shazam though. The wizard shazam gave him the powers just like he did cap marvel. 
 
@Baltoro: Black adam is KO'd before his hands can touch each other to clap or wally steals his speed. You cant clap if you cant move.
#35 Edited by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio
@super_psycho said:

@Baltoro said:

Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.
where was black adam when zoom was kicking everybody's a*# .... wisdom of gods? even his co called gods are too slow to stop wally
So Flash is skyfather level now?   Let's stop putting unrealistic expectations on The flash
 
@benjoe11 said:

@PikminMania: Yea there egyptian gods. Still says shazam though. The wizard shazam gave him the powers just like he did cap marvel. 
 
@Baltoro: Black adam is KO'd before his hands can touch each other to clap or wally steals his speed. You cant clap if you cant move.

He'll get punched once possibly then go airborne and air clap him.  Black Adam doesnt play fair unlike Superman, he'll use Flash's weakness (lack of flight) and capitalize. Let's face it Flash fans, Black Adam accomplished more in World War 3 than Flash can possibly hope to.
#36 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
Wally. He has multiple ways to win, these are ways he could win... 
 
  • He speed steals and beats him.
  • He uses a Mass Infinite-Punch.
  • He enters the Speed-Force.
  • He punches him over 100 times.
#37 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro:  
  • Speed Force > Black Adam.
  • Speed Steal > Black Adam.
  • Mass Infinite Punch > Black Adam.
  • Punching 100 times > Black Adam.
#38 Posted by cyberninja (10413 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally

#39 Posted by beatboks1 (7306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro
1. BA in WW3 was complete and utter PIS. everything he did was so far beyond his peaks shown prior it was ridiculous.
2. I fail to see what BA is going to do to wally when a more powerful and more malevolent SBP wets his pants at the sight of a Flash family memeber
3. since Jay (the slowest and weakest wielder of the speed force could take BA a few times, a younger more powerful more mainlined Flash will pawn him. 
4. Against the older slower less capable speed force user Jay Ba's sonic booms were only good enough to keep  Jay distracted.
 
#40 Posted by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

There's lots of talk about this speed advantage but it was already stated that speed alone can't defeat him in these scans.  I ask, who is more ferocious?
 

Black Adam isnt someone you can blitz or overpower, he'll keep going until he lands a blow.  And "every blow he lands is meant to kill", Flash has absolutely no chance of beating this man. 
#41 Posted by beatboks1 (7306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro: and again you keep using the PIS of WW3.
There are thousands of scans that can show BA getting creamed by much less and we're supposed to eat up this trite as suddenly his level.
get over it one very poorly written story does not an argument make. In WW3 we're supposed to believe that suddenly BA can defeat dozens of characters who've defeated him solo before. wake up and get off the PIS band wagon. SBP is more ferocious than BA and he's been beaten by a flash. As has BA been beaten by a weaker Flash on over a dozen occasions
#42 Edited by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio
@beatboks1 said:

@Baltoro: and again you keep using the PIS of WW3. There are thousands of scans that can show BA getting creamed by much less and we're supposed to eat up this trite as suddenly his level. get over it one very poorly written story does not an argument make. In WW3 we're supposed to believe that suddenly BA can defeat dozens of characters who've defeated him solo before. wake up and get off the PIS band wagon. SBP is more ferocious than BA and he's been beaten by a flash. As has BA been beaten by a weaker Flash on over a dozen occasions

Bringing up SBP is irrevelant considering Flash never KOed/killed him or even came close.  I remember in SCW they were teaming up on him then Flash never followed him after Superboy Prime said he didnt like speedsters and flew to a different area.  If he could realistically stop him then he wouldnt have allowed Superboy Prime to destroy the GL corps, Ion, and other heroes.  Hes that fast and couldnt even keep up with someone he is supposedly faster than?  Something isnt adding up here. He probably got KOed by Superboy Prime off Panel otherwise the story doesnt make sense.  Also, Adam doesnt have that fear of speedsters like Superboy Prime (due to him being BFRed by several of them).  This isnt some BFR session where Flash has multiple other Flashes helping him.  BTW WW3 wasnt PIS, it showed what happens when Black Adam cuts loose. 
 
@beatboks1 said:
@Baltoro: and again you keep using the PIS of WW3. There are thousands of scans that can show BA getting creamed by much less and we're supposed to eat up this trite as suddenly his level

I'm calling you on this btw.  Put up those scans or cool down on your Black Adam hate because we both know that isnt true.
#43 Posted by SlimJ87D (10306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro: There's nothing that Black Adam can do. He's a cool Anti-Hero but honestly he can't catch the Flash, he can't hurt the Flash and he won't know where the Flash is coming from.  
 
There's nothing that protects him from getting his speed stolen and the only way he can win is if he tries to destroy the earth which is not in his character even with his morals. 
 
The Flashes did team up and beat Superboy-Prime the first time. When bart came back he punched Superboy-prime hard enough to make cry and fly away which by comic vine standards is considered a win since he refused to fight out of fear. So Bart won the battle there, but surely he did not win the war.  
 
The main thing you can get from this is that a Flash was capable of hurting Prime and I believe drew blood from him. Something very difficult that even Sodam Yat + Ion had difficulty doing.  
 
No one is hating on Adam or underrating him. The Flash when unleashed and written to his powers true potential is just a beast. 
 
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/speed-vs-strength-common-misconceptions/608680/?
#44 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro said:
@super_psycho said:

@Baltoro said:

Where was flash during World War 3?  I mean, if he could stop Black Adam himself then why didnt he?  Black Adam is a powerhouse he can call on the wisdom of his God(s) to come up with a strategy to beat Flash.  The Flash has been beaten by much slower opponents than Black Adam.
where was black adam when zoom was kicking everybody's a*# .... wisdom of gods? even his co called gods are too slow to stop wally
So Flash is skyfather level now?   Let's stop putting unrealistic expectations on The flash
 
@benjoe11 said:

@PikminMania: Yea there egyptian gods. Still says shazam though. The wizard shazam gave him the powers just like he did cap marvel. 
 
@Baltoro: Black adam is KO'd before his hands can touch each other to clap or wally steals his speed. You cant clap if you cant move.

He'll get punched once possibly then go airborne and air clap him.  Black Adam doesnt play fair unlike Superman, he'll use Flash's weakness (lack of flight) and capitalize. Let's face it Flash fans, Black Adam accomplished more in World War 3 than Flash can possibly hope to.
i never said that flash is skyfather ... Adam has speed of mercury  that's why i said even his gods are slow to catch wally
#45 Posted by Saren (25892 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro said:
There's lots of talk about this speed advantage but it was already stated that speed alone can't defeat him in these scans.  I ask, who is more ferocious?
 
Black Adam isnt someone you can blitz or overpower, he'll keep going until he lands a blow.  And "every blow he lands is meant to kill", Flash has absolutely no chance of beating this man. 
Now if only he could land a blow on someone who moves faster than light.
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#46 Posted by benjoe11 (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@baltoro the flash can literally turn black adam into a satue. frozen to the point it takes 1000 years to blink. how can he hit the flash when hes CANT MOVE. then imp, game over.

#47 Posted by YoungGunna (2439 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally...

#48 Posted by beatboks1 (7306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baltoro 
Call all you like (though obviously 1000's was political license, but he has for example in a single JSA issue been matched by several JSAers solo). You can't even acknowledge the three scans I've already put up of BA being owned by Jay Garrick who isn't as capable of wielding the speed force as Wally. In one of those scans BTW BA was going all out. So your argument that WW3 is showing what BA can do all out doesn't hold water. By the way I'm not a BA hater, that's why I own over 100 of the issues he's appeared in. I just love how people can look at a single story told in 3 issues, that shows a character operating at levels way above any previous appearance and not consider it PIS. BA has been bitch slapped by mary marvel, and knoocked around by Cap Marvel (who had a broken arm). Both these were when three or more of the Marvel family were powered up. That meant that they were below BA's power level as they share the power. He's been beaten by the Bulletman for crying out load, matched by Atom Smasher.
 
Even with all the showings of WW3 that still doesn't say how he's going to beat someone who can simply steal his speed leaving him a completely stationary sitting duck, or speed him up into the time stream for a BFR. Wally doesn't even have to touch of face him for a win. If Jay could steal his speed and make him drop like a stone than so can Wally, and do it better.
#49 Posted by Superskrull86 (1831 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
Teth. Wally's too predictable. Teth knows better.

I agree.
#50 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (541 posts) - - Show Bio

wally at his best wins.