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#1 Posted by Milokill (61 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash (Wally)

vs.

Superman (New 52), WW (New 52), Green Lantern (Hal, New 52), Thor and Silver Surfer.

All characters bloodlusted.

All know everything about each other.

Team has 1 minute prep, Flash has 5 minutes.

Takes place on an abandoned planet.

Everyone starts on the ground, 1 mile distance.

No BFR. Kill is the only win condition.

Who wins?

#2 Edited by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

@milokill: team wins, too much for Wally to handle

#3 Posted by Dredeuced (5325 posts) - - Show Bio

If Flash can take out Surfer, he can take out everyone else. It's basically just a Flash vs Surfer thread.

#4 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4891 posts) - - Show Bio

SS is all you need

#5 Posted by i_like_swords (13037 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer Solos. Rest go down without him.

#6 Posted by GodEmperorOfMankind (150 posts) - - Show Bio

With SS on the team, team wins, without him flash wins.....

#7 Edited by Petey_is_Spidey (2774 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor or SS solo.

#8 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Can silver surfer survive being atomized?

#9 Posted by dondave (34429 posts) - - Show Bio

If Flash can take out Surfer, he can take out everyone else. It's basically just a Flash vs Surfer thread.

#10 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3462 posts) - - Show Bio

If the likes of Thanos, Thor and Doom can physically harm Norrin, then Wally can. Being bloodlusted, Wally should win. Between IMPs, Speed steal, Speed lend he could/should win.

#11 Posted by Cgoodness (3883 posts) - - Show Bio

Team, I'm pretty sure all members of the team can probably solo flash

#12 Edited by spiderbuck (2448 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Edited by Dredeuced (5325 posts) - - Show Bio

Team, I'm pretty sure all members of the team can probably solo flash

I dunno man, when Zoom was playing around with them he solo'd WW Supes and Hal, and Thor wouldn't ever fare well against a speedster. Surfer's the big obstacle here.

#14 Posted by DarkRaiden (6541 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer Solos, Thor solos, together, they all easily destroy Flash.

#15 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3462 posts) - - Show Bio

Smh...

#16 Posted by CyberWarrior (1445 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer takes down Flash by himself.

#17 Posted by SHARKBEARAGATOR (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to say flash can take down Surfer handidly and then stomps the rest of the team.

#18 Posted by Bossmonster (2166 posts) - - Show Bio

Blood Lusted Wally Wrecks the team to hell and back. With 5 minutes of prep too! That's Broken.

Massive speed steal and IMP's would do the job. If SS can't be ripped apart, BFR him with via speed force.

The Flash very very easily.

#19 Posted by sync1 (2823 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio

What is 1 minute preparation going to do for the team? Cover the 1 mile distance...

Flash blitzes everyone at the same time.

#21 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced:

No he didn't, the only ones he actually fought were flash and ww, and ww was blinded but she still beat him. That said anybody one this team could solo Wally, most could probably one shot him if they really tried.

#22 Posted by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio

@cgoodness said:

Team, I'm pretty sure all members of the team can probably solo flash

I dunno man, when Zoom was playing around with them he solo'd WW Supes and Hal, and Thor wouldn't ever fare well against a speedster. Surfer's the big obstacle here.

Surfer really isn't an obstacle. Flash can literally freeze everyone here.

#23 Posted by sync1 (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced:

No he didn't, the only ones he actually fought were flash and ww, and ww was blinded but she still beat him. That said anybody one this team could solo Wally, most could probably one shot him if they really tried.

  1. ABC Logic doesn't work here
  2. I laugh at that statement.

Wally would STOMP anyone here.

#24 Edited by Dredeuced (5325 posts) - - Show Bio

@moonman78 said:

@dredeuced:

No he didn't, the only ones he actually fought were flash and ww, and ww was blinded but she still beat him. That said anybody one this team could solo Wally, most could probably one shot him if they really tried.

Sinestro Corps special. He beat the tar out of Superman, Hal, and Wonder Woman because they chased him down to try to get info about where Sinestro had disappeared to because they were in the evil group together before. It was a completely one sided beating before he left and they could do nothing to stop him.

No one but Surfer has a chance against Wally.

#25 Posted by HolySerpent (12457 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally stomps.

#26 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2774 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@darkraiden: @petey_is_spidey: How would Thor solo Flash? Wally would stomp.

Depending on the version, sorry I didn't mention that earlier. Rune King or OF, who both have the power of Odin, could easily use his power set on magic to kill Flash, such as speeding up his age, or freezing Flash the minute he moves.

#27 Posted by DanM (133 posts) - - Show Bio

SS handles the Flash while the rest of the team grabs a bite to eat.

#28 Posted by Schmalzel (334 posts) - - Show Bio

The big thing as most sensible people are noting here is SS, a blood lusted SS is the scariest thing because he holds back every fight. We have seen what Wally can do not holding back, but SS can do so much and is so fast, imagine him not holding back, the team can distract Wally long enough to have SS kill him.

#29 Edited by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: i agree with you but zoom isnt a speedster per se.

#30 Edited by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm said:

SS handles the Flash while the rest of the team grabs a bite to eat.

SS gets annihilated as equally as everyone else here.

#31 Posted by DanM (133 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: The Flash has no business being in one on one battle debates against cosmic powerhouse type characters, the power cosmic is far superior to the speed force, Flash loses. Norrins speed comes from the power cosmic, Flash will not be able to steal it nor could he put him into the speed force given his level of control over energy and matter. His abilities will overwhelm any non cosmic level being, the guy can destroy planets in his sleep and tank shots from the likes of Galactus, Flash is outclassed here.

#32 Posted by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm said:

@monsterstomp: The Flash has no business being in one on one battle debates against cosmic powerhouse type characters, the power cosmic is far superior to the speed force, Flash loses. Norrins speed comes from the power cosmic, Flash will not be able to steal it nor could he put him into the speed force given his level of control over energy and matter. His abilities will overwhelm any non cosmic level being, the guy can destroy planets in his sleep and tank shots from the likes of Galactus, Flash is outclassed here.

Please. Saying SS gains power from the cosmic does not mean Flash can't steal his speed and momentum. Superman gains his power from the sun, yet Flash has stolen his speed. Norrin has no counter to speed steal. Norrin was beat to near death by Thanos who is less stronger than Superman and Flash has blitz anti-monitor.

#33 Posted by Juiceboks (7841 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally tears through everyone. Seriously..if he's bloodlusted he can literally take all the time he needs and there's nothing anyone on the team can do about it. Not even Norrin.

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#34 Posted by DanM (133 posts) - - Show Bio

If you are comparing the power cosmic to the power of the sun then perhaps you need to read up on it some, as far as the Anti Monitor feat goes you should also remember that was a team effort. Anything the speed force can do the power cosmic can do better, Norrin has the power to manipulate all cosmic forces, he can produce nearly any effect he desires, this kind of power and ability is way to much for the likes of the Flash to handle.

#35 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3462 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by jojjimbo (2472 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins.

#37 Posted by spiderbuck (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm said:

If you are comparing the power cosmic to the power of the sun then perhaps you need to read up on it some, as far as the Anti Monitor feat goes you should also remember that was a team effort. Anything the speed force can do the power cosmic can do better, Norrin has the power to manipulate all cosmic forces, he can produce nearly any effect he desires, this kind of power and ability is way to much for the likes of the Flash to handle.

POW!

#38 Edited by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm said:

If you are comparing the power cosmic to the power of the sun then perhaps you need to read up on it some, as far as the Anti Monitor feat goes you should also remember that was a team effort. Anything the speed force can do the power cosmic can do better, Norrin has the power to manipulate all cosmic forces, he can produce nearly any effect he desires, this kind of power and ability is way to much for the likes of the Flash to handle.

I was saying, it doesn't matter where the source of the power originates, Flash could and has stole speed from them. Only beings that are associated with the negative speed force has a counter to it. The speed force is too much for SS, especially for a bloodlusted Wally, who could do way more than just steal speed. His IMP's hit way harder than both Thanos and Superman can dish out. Wally could beat SS to death in a microsecond, if not less.

#39 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

There is far too little 'flash speedblitz' in this thread.

Have you truly forgotten the FIRST RULE of Comicvine?!

Rule #1) Wally West speedblitzes

Jesus
#40 Edited by MonsterStomp (15872 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp:

No

Because now Barry Allen is back in the mix

And he sucks

#42 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of idiots in this thread. Bloodlusted Wally would win. He could just speedsteal.

#43 Posted by CaptnMcDeadpool (955 posts) - - Show Bio

@milokill said:

Flash (Wally)

vs.

Superman (New 52), WW (New 52), Green Lantern (Hal, New 52), Thor and Silver Surfer.

All characters bloodlusted.

All know everything about each other.

Team has 1 minute prep, Flash has 5 minutes.

Takes place on an abandoned planet.

Everyone starts on the ground, 1 mile distance.

No BFR. Kill is the only win condition.

Who wins?

Wally gets destroyed.

Spite much?

#44 Posted by DanM (133 posts) - - Show Bio

@_black:

What makes you believe the Flash could speed steal from the likes of somebody wielding the power cosmic?

#45 Posted by CaptnMcDeadpool (955 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@darkraiden: @petey_is_spidey: How would Thor solo Flash? Wally would stomp.

Depending on the version, sorry I didn't mention that earlier. Rune King or OF, who both have the power of Odin, could easily use his power set on magic to kill Flash, such as speeding up his age, or freezing Flash the minute he moves.

AoE godblast worked well enough on Durok. Rune King Thor is too much. Rune King Thor is probably closer in power to someone like Tyrant.

#46 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm: What makes you believe he couldn't?

#47 Posted by sync1 (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@danm: Flash could speedsteal anyone. What are you talking about? Wally could deliver 100 IMP's in a second.

#48 Posted by CaptnMcDeadpool (955 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@danm: Flash could speedsteal anyone. What are you talking about? Wally could deliver 100 IMP's in a second.

Hmmm....when has he done this?

#49 Posted by Juiceboks (7841 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@danm: Flash could speedsteal anyone. What are you talking about? Wally could deliver 100 IMP's in a second.

Hmmm....when has he done this?

Speed steal or IMP punch? He's done both regardless.

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#50 Posted by sync1 (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@captnmcdeadpool: You are obviously just a fanboy. Please accept that fact Wally murders, and move on.