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#1 Posted by _slim_ (13028 posts) - - Show Bio

- Flash (Wally West)


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                     vs.
 
- Mister Majestic 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- Location:
- Coast City.
- Unpopulated.
- Midday.
- Start 100ft apart.
 
- Rules:
- Morals apply.
- Random encounter.
- Standard equipment.
- Standard elimination rules apply.
- No BFR.
#2 Posted by Sideslash (5906 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_: Post Flashpoint Wally isn't Flash.

#3 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sideslash said:

@_slim_: Post Flashpoint Wally isn't Flash.

Post Flashpoint, Majestic doesn't exist. He wants to talk about Wally West as Flash fighting Majestic, there's no issue with that.

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#4 Posted by Sideslash (5906 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot: Well alrighty then.

#5 Posted by _slim_ (13028 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sideslash said:

@_slim_: Post Flashpoint Wally isn't Flash.

I know.
#6 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

#7 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

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#8 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

#9 Edited by Chibio (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Good fight. I say Majestic! The reason is above ^!

#10 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

Slade had prep in the first instance and cheap-shotted Wally in the second. What's your point? In Flash #200, Wally circled the globe a dozen times in less than a second. Superman was a statue to him.

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#11 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

Slade had prep in the first instance and cheap-shotted Wally in the second. What's your point? In Flash #200, Wally circled the globe a dozen times in less than a second. Superman was a statue to him.

The first instance, Wally's super fast reflexes shouldve made him move in time for him not to be impaled by Slade's sword. And even at the second instance, Slade shouldnt have gotten the drop on Wally the way he did, trips him while Wally's running after him and gets knocked out by that? Cmon now...................

#12 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

Slade had prep in the first instance and cheap-shotted Wally in the second. What's your point? In Flash #200, Wally circled the globe a dozen times in less than a second. Superman was a statue to him.

The first instance, Wally's super fast reflexes shouldve made him move in time for him not to be impaled by Slade's sword. And even at the second instance, Slade shouldnt have gotten the drop on Wally the way he did, trips him while Wally's running after him and gets knocked out by that? Cmon now...................

Slade has been dealing with Wally for over a decade, he knows how he moves. He even said "New costume, same old mistakes". Majestic doesn't have that advantage. The second instance was a low showing for Wally, I'll admit. Still, his high showings are more than enough to beat Majestic.

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#13 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally is fast enough to consistently move before Majestic, but I think immobilizing him so he can just unload without Maj getting a chance to answer the attacks is the thing that will actually win it.

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#14 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Majestic is what you get when you combine the powers of Superman(but none of the weaknesses) with the intellect of Reed Richards, the gadgets of Batman and fighting skills of Ares(all topped with one massive ass ego who doesn't hold back).

I say Majestic wins this(maybe I'm biased because I'm a Majestic fan).

#15 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally because of the speed force

#16 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Wally.

#17 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

Slade had prep in the first instance and cheap-shotted Wally in the second. What's your point? In Flash #200, Wally circled the globe a dozen times in less than a second. Superman was a statue to him.

The first instance, Wally's super fast reflexes shouldve made him move in time for him not to be impaled by Slade's sword. And even at the second instance, Slade shouldnt have gotten the drop on Wally the way he did, trips him while Wally's running after him and gets knocked out by that? Cmon now...................

Slade has been dealing with Wally for over a decade, he knows how he moves. He even said "New costume, same old mistakes". Majestic doesn't have that advantage. The second instance was a low showing for Wally, I'll admit. Still, his high showings are more than enough to beat Majestic.

Majestic's intelligence would give him an advantage over Wally for him to know what he's dealing with. Not only does he have that, but his thought process is extremely high. He's created complicated machine in a matter of seconds, and thats just with machinery, not free-handed combat prowess. Wally is fast as a mofo, but Majestic's powers and abilities and intelligence gives him the edge here. If Slade can get the edge with Wally from years of fighting him, than Majestic can do that within one fight because of how smart he is

#18 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

Slade had prep in the first instance and cheap-shotted Wally in the second. What's your point? In Flash #200, Wally circled the globe a dozen times in less than a second. Superman was a statue to him.

The first instance, Wally's super fast reflexes shouldve made him move in time for him not to be impaled by Slade's sword. And even at the second instance, Slade shouldnt have gotten the drop on Wally the way he did, trips him while Wally's running after him and gets knocked out by that? Cmon now...................

Slade has been dealing with Wally for over a decade, he knows how he moves. He even said "New costume, same old mistakes". Majestic doesn't have that advantage. The second instance was a low showing for Wally, I'll admit. Still, his high showings are more than enough to beat Majestic.

Majestic's intelligence would give him an advantage over Wally for him to know what he's dealing with. Not only does he have that, but his thought process is extremely high. He's created complicated machine in a matter of seconds, and thats just with machinery, not free-handed combat prowess. Wally is fast as a mofo, but Majestic's powers and abilities and intelligence gives him the edge here. If Slade can get the edge with Wally from years of fighting him, than Majestic can do that within one fight because of how smart he is

No. He can be as fast as he wants, Wally's still faster. He simply doesn't have the time to do anything to Wally, who can drain all his speed and leave him immobile for the rest of his life.

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#19 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (471 posts) - - Show Bio

wally isn't losing this if he's at his best.

#20 Posted by baron2011 (1151 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShiZZmAhh said:

wally isn't losing this if he's at his best.

#21 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Majestic isnt losing this if he's at his best.

it takes more than Super-Speed and what Wally can do with it to win a fight.

#22 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

Majestic isnt losing this if he's at his best.

it takes more than Super-Speed and what Wally can do with it to win a fight.

Speed-steal. He has no answer to that. Plain and simple.

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#23 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (471 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26: majestic can't defend against speed steal.

#24 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

Majestic isnt losing this if he's at his best.

it takes more than Super-Speed and what Wally can do with it to win a fight.

Speed-steal. He has no answer to that. Plain and simple.

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@MyronLee26: majestic can't defend against speed steal.

Tell that to the opponents that have defeated him who are not even speedsters.

#25 Posted by Saren (24401 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

Majestic isnt losing this if he's at his best.

it takes more than Super-Speed and what Wally can do with it to win a fight.

Speed-steal. He has no answer to that. Plain and simple.

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@MyronLee26: majestic can't defend against speed steal.

Tell that to the opponents that have defeated him who are not even speedsters.

Which opponents? The ones who have blindsided him, or the ones he was holding back on? And you still haven't given me an answer to the speed-steal. I'll save you some time: there isn't one.

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#26 Posted by Jezer (2852 posts) - - Show Bio

Aside from speed steal, is there any argument that Flash vibrating through Majestic wouldn't kill him as well? (assuming he's bloodlusted, I forget what the O.P. says)

#27 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (471 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

Majestic isnt losing this if he's at his best.

it takes more than Super-Speed and what Wally can do with it to win a fight.

Speed-steal. He has no answer to that. Plain and simple.

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@MyronLee26: majestic can't defend against speed steal.

Tell that to the opponents that have defeated him who are not even speedsters.

which is exactly why i said flash at his best isn't losing. i assume the characters are at their best unless otherwise stated by the OP.

majestic still has no way to defend against speed steal when flash uses it.

#28 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jezer: the OP has morals on, but if the new jesus were bloodlusted you wouldn't get any arguments from me about that claim.

#29 Posted by Jodema (444 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally. Begin.

#30 Posted by Void_Paladin (901 posts) - - Show Bio

This guy.

#31 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

Wallace.

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

#33 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7775 posts) - - Show Bio

The IMP can hurt Majestic, yes.

#34 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr.Majestic

#35 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (4678 posts) - - Show Bio

Majestic

#36 Posted by baron2011 (1151 posts) - - Show Bio

flash wins easy

#37 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7775 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a really good battle. Good enough that I think it could go either way.

Majestic is really, really fast. Not nearly as fast as the Flash, but fast enough that he can at least try to get away. If he can get into space and get some time to think and make gizmos, he wins.

Flash is REALLY fast. If he can chain together enough IMPs, and avoid taking a lucky punch from Majestic, he will win.

A great battle, thanks for posting it!

#38 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

#39 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

With that "Imp" move?

#40 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

With that "Imp" move?

Yes sir.

#41 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

With that "Imp" move?

Yes sir.

lol what is a Imp exactly?

#42 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

With that "Imp" move?

Yes sir.

lol what is a Imp exactly?

It stands for "infinite mass punch". Basically, where Flash can move faster than the speed of light, he attains infinite mass and thus can exert an incredible amount of force, say to punch a bad guy.

#43 Posted by crackerjack82 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: a term coined the Infinite mass Punch, which it really isn't its just a punch at FTL speed

#44 Posted by nickthedevil (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally Freakin West.

#45 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@_Black said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Can Flash even hurt Mr.Majestic???

I would very much think he could.

With that "Imp" move?

Yes sir.

lol what is a Imp exactly?

It stands for "infinite mass punch". Basically, where Flash can move faster than the speed of light, he attains infinite mass and thus can exert an incredible amount of force, say to punch a bad guy.

@crackerjack82 said:

@jeanroygrant: a term coined the Infinite mass Punch, which it really isn't its just a punch at FTL speed

Cool thanks.

#46 Posted by crackerjack82 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black:

not one to argue, on what the IMP is, but it cannot really be an IMP, as an IMP would kill the person hit by it, even if at first they could take it, the mass would be always crushing in on itself, as it is gaining an infinite amount of mass at an infinite rate for an infinite amount of time an thus destroying not only the person, but at some point space and time itself, but i really dont want go into science, nor argue the IMP, even though i kinda just did, sorry for the rant

#47 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@crackerjack82: Lol it's perfectly fine. I have thought a lot about the physics of Flash myself. It doesn't make sense, plain and simple. It's comic physics. But technically, if you move at the speed of light you would have infinite mass. But that has never been achieved, or at least been proven to be achieved. *CoughLargeHadronColliderCough*

#48 Posted by crackerjack82 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@crackerjack82: Lol it's perfectly fine. I have thought a lot about the physics of Flash myself. It doesn't make sense, plain and simple. It's comic physics. But technically, if you move at the speed of light you would have infinite mass. But that has never been achieved, or at least been proven to be achieved. *CoughLargeHadronColliderCough*

yeah i plan on using the machine that will end us all, to gain superpowers

#49 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

#50 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Majestic got this, he's sometimes a pre crisis Superman and more

@MyronLee26 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@MyronLee26 said:

well, in any case. Majestic has this. Wally is dumb powerful, the most powerful Flash actually, but Majestic is pretty much if Superman doesnt hold back and then some, immortality, Dr.Doom-level intelligence, coming from a warrior-bred alien race, Badass

....no. Flash wins unless someone can show me something that says Majestic could get past having all his speed drained.

And Wally has gotten tagged by Deathstroke not once but twice and almost killed him at one point.

the Deathstroke thing may be PIS but Flash has been owned by lots of street levelers

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