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#1 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

The mighty King Thor has now come across the likes of Flash, a super fast being whom seeks to overthrow the King for the might of Asgard and her people! Rules are as follows :

-bloodlusted

-morals off

-to the death

-battle on outskirts of the ruined Asgard

New 52 feats..If this is stomp to Thor pre-52 Feats allowed.

#2 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

King Thor in a major stomp, he has taken out a majority of Avengers, namely Hulk & Thing at the same time, his durability is without question; as his control of time and knowledge with the Odin Force, seeing as how he's close to Odins Level. There are so many different variations as to how he could win this battle, basically, a spite. Flagged~

#3 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4887 posts) - - Show Bio

King Thor in a stomp.

#4 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor stomps...

#5 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

King Thor in a major stomp, he has taken out a majority of Avengers, namely Hulk & Thing at the same time, his durability is without question; as his control of time and knowledge with the Odin Force, seeing as how he's close to Odins Level. There are so many different variations as to how he could win this battle, basically, a spite. Flagged~

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

#6 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic: @Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: Surprised nobody has said speedblitz due to bloodlust.

#7 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic: @Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: Surprised nobody has said speedblitz due to bloodlust.

Also, if you wish to bring that into the debate, a time stop is all that's required and Flash's speed is akin to that of a turtle, than with one fine swing of his hand, off with his head! As for the IMP, he hasn't used it on a being as powerful as even Regular Thor, who is two steps down; OF Thor and this version of Thor. With the Odin Force feats backing King Thor, as well as his wisdom and power, it's highly, even implausible that Flash would even stand a chance; unless of course you merely like to assume with ABC Logic.

#8 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

@Pyrogram said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic: @Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: Surprised nobody has said speedblitz due to bloodlust.

Also, if you wish to bring that into the debate, a time stop is all that's required and Flash's speed is akin to that of a turtle, than with one fine swing of his hand, off with his head! As for the IMP, he hasn't used it on a being as powerful as even Regular Thor, who is two steps down; OF Thor and this version of Thor. With the Odin Force feats backing King Thor, as well as his wisdom and power, it's highly, even implausible that Flash would even stand a chance; unless of course you merely like to assume with ABC Logic.

You have all these thing's well thought out, It is like you have already discussed them >.>

#9 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird said:

@Pyrogram said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic: @Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: Surprised nobody has said speedblitz due to bloodlust.

Also, if you wish to bring that into the debate, a time stop is all that's required and Flash's speed is akin to that of a turtle, than with one fine swing of his hand, off with his head! As for the IMP, he hasn't used it on a being as powerful as even Regular Thor, who is two steps down; OF Thor and this version of Thor. With the Odin Force feats backing King Thor, as well as his wisdom and power, it's highly, even implausible that Flash would even stand a chance; unless of course you merely like to assume with ABC Logic.

You have all these thing's well thought out, It is like you have already discussed them >.>

Let's wait until the fan boys come into the discussion. Also, did I mention reality warping? King Thor could transport him to the outer limits of the atmosphere, or fly into space and send Mjolnir down to finish the job, seeing as how it could travel across the universe and back in 60 seconds; it has outrun the Silver Surfer, and Flash could not, out-run it. Again, there are so many variations as to how King Thor would win it's merely laughable.

#10 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry doesn't even use the IMP so it's not relevant, considering you said New-52 Barry, or Pre-52 if it's a stomp. Barry is well outmatched, Wally is probably outmatched, though he has used the IMP against someone of heavy hitter durability and KO'd them.

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#11 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Lets wait and see :)

#12 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

Barry doesn't even use the IMP so it's not relevant, considering you said New-52 Barry, or Pre-52 if it's a stomp.

Regardless, no version of Flash > King Thor. Implausible.

#13 Edited by XLR87T3 (2264 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash speed steal, then Infinite Mass Punches, BEFORE King Thor does anything!

#14 Posted by Ultra_Girl_ (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre 52 can pull out a win.

#15 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Wally has fought time freezers before, his strongest rogue is a time freezer(Hunter Zolomon). Wally moves too fast for time to affect him, it's why he time travels, lol. But like I said, it doesn't matter, since you're using Barry who's got nothing on Thor or Wally.

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#16 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash won't be able to put Thor down in a speed blitz

#17 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

King Thor stomps

#18 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Thor stomps...

@jeanroygrant

said:

King Thor stomps

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

said:

King Thor in a stomp.
#19 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@RobocopSlayerT800 said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Thor stomps...

@jeanroygrant

said:

King Thor stomps

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

said:

King Thor in a stomp.
#20 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually don't know about King Thor's durability. I know Wally could probably put down Normal Thor with a hard enough hit, but I don't know how much the King Thor's durability is amped, so you're probably right and it's not my place to argue.

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#21 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

I actually don't know about King Thor's durability. I know Wally could definitely put probably put down Normal Thor with a hard enough hit, but I don't know how much the King Thor's durability is amped, so you're probably right and it's not my place to argue.

Wrong

#22 Posted by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash can KO someone with Superman level durability with one punch, that he could've done a thousand times. Normal Thor is durable, he's not that durable.

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#23 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

King Thor is more powerful then superman

#24 Posted by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrevorguy: I agree, if you read what I said, she was saying Normal Thor could tank Wally's hits.

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#25 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

Flash can KO someone with Superman level durability with one punch, that he could've done a thousand times. Normal Thor is durable, he's not that durable.

His punch is basically feat less, there isn't alot of backing proof to it; basically your merely assuming.

#26 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

@Dredeuced said:

Flash can KO someone with Superman level durability with one punch, that he could've done a thousand times. Normal Thor is durable, he's not that durable.

His punch is basically feat less, there isn't alot of backing proof to it; basically your merely assuming.

How is it featless? It one hit ko'd a white martian. White Martians have...martian durability. Equivalent or better than Superman's. The scan even says "you may be as tough as the Man of Steel" when he KO's Zom. He and Zoom also hit harder than Superman, as stated by Wonder Woman. Wally is far from a featless character.

He also KO'd Professor Zoom who had Speed Force durability: IE he could tank hits from Superman and Wonder Woman. He roughed up Mongul like a plaything. Wally smash.

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#27 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

@Dredeuced said:

Flash can KO someone with Superman level durability with one punch, that he could've done a thousand times. Normal Thor is durable, he's not that durable.

His punch is basically feat less, there isn't alot of backing proof to it; basically your merely assuming.

On panel evidence = featless and assumptions

What?

#28 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird said:

@Dredeuced said:

Flash can KO someone with Superman level durability with one punch, that he could've done a thousand times. Normal Thor is durable, he's not that durable.

His punch is basically feat less, there isn't alot of backing proof to it; basically your merely assuming.

How is it featless? It one hit ko'd a white martian. White Martians have...martian durability. Equivalent or better than Superman's. The scan even says "you may be as tough as the Man of Steel" when he KO's Zom. He and Zoom also hit harder than Superman, as stated by Wonder Woman. Wally is far from a featless character.

He also KO'd Professor Zoom who had Speed Force durability: IE he could tank hits from Superman and Wonder Woman. He roughed up Mongul like a plaything. Wally smash.

Can't go by what characters say, Odin said the destroyer Armour was indestructible, which it wasn't. ABC Logic doesn't apply, you can't simply go by what characters say unless it's proven.

#29 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree Wally has some great feats but nothing said makes me believe he can take out the king Thor

#30 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrevorguy said:

I agree Wally has some great feats but nothing said makes me believe he can take out the king Thor

I think this.

#31 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

Not arguing if he can take out King Thor, follow the conversation: Alyssabird is saying NORMAL Thor can tank Wally, because apparently KOing a White Martian or Professor Zoom isn't a feat.

Like I said, I don't know enough about King Thor to even begin to argue about it, and my cursory glance is that if he's even close to Odin then he should be well out of Wally's KO range, white dwarf punch or not.

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#32 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2611 posts) - - Show Bio

THOR THE MIGHTY!! THOR THE BRAVE!!! CRUSH THE INFIDELS IN YOUR WAY!!!! BY YOUR HAMMER LET NONE BE SAVED!!!!! LIVE TO DIE ON THAT FINAL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#33 Posted by JohnofGalactus (17 posts) - - Show Bio

KING THOR WINS NO MATTER WHAT FLASH IS GOOD AT Speed

I like Flash in DC side: Barry Allen

But on this vote I am on for King Thor

#34 Posted by XLR87T3 (2264 posts) - - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude: TRUE NORDS NEVER BACK DOWN!!!

#35 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@XLR87T3 said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude: TRUE NORDS NEVER BACK DOWN!!!

Says the Flash fanboy

#36 Posted by dondave (34429 posts) - - Show Bio

King Thor ftw, but normal thor goes down

#37 Edited by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

@XLR87T3 said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude: TRUE NORDS NEVER BACK DOWN!!!

Says the Flash fanboy

Was this supposed to be aimed at me?

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#38 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird: Was this supposed to be aimed at me?

Was what hun

#39 Posted by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird: Was this supposed to be aimed at me?

Was what hun

Sorry, I edited to include the quote lol. People have been calling me a Flash fanboy a lot since I have to come in and correct people about Wally. :( ( I am kind of a Flash fanboy, though I try to reason his powers thoughtfully)

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#40 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced: Once a flash fanboy always a flash fanboy.

#41 Posted by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Atleast I don't have a Thor avatar while arguing in favor of him! :P

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#42 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced: I am a Thor fanboy.

#43 Posted by LordMasterGod (214 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnofGalactus said:

KING THOR WINS NO MATTER WHAT FLASH IS GOOD AT Speed

I like Flash in DC side: Barry Allen

But on this vote I am on for King Thor

#44 Posted by TheCannon (17900 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins. Heck, normal Thor could beat Pre-52 Flash.

But quick question. With Barry still having all his memories and stuff, shouldn't his Pre-52 feats still count.

#45 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird said:

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird: Was this supposed to be aimed at me?

Was what hun

Sorry, I edited to include the quote lol. People have been calling me a Flash fanboy a lot since I have to come in and correct people about Wally. :( ( I am kind of a Flash fanboy, though I try to reason his powers thoughtfully)

Such as over powering the Odin Force? That seems very logical.

#46 Posted by Dredeuced (5321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say Flash could overpower the Odin Force.

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#47 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@Alyssabird: Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say Flash could overpower the Odin Force.

So it's agreed, OF Thor > Flash and King Thor >>> Flah, or in other words, King Thor > OF Thor > Flash

#48 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon said:

Thor wins. Heck, normal Thor could beat Pre-52 Flash.

But quick question. With Barry still having all his memories and stuff, shouldn't his Pre-52 feats still count.

Read the bottom of the OP.

#49 Posted by TheCannon (17900 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@TheCannon said:

Thor wins. Heck, normal Thor could beat Pre-52 Flash.

But quick question. With Barry still having all his memories and stuff, shouldn't his Pre-52 feats still count.

Read the bottom of the OP.

I saw that. My question was more in general for any battle/comic.

#50 Posted by Pyrogram (35099 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon: ow ok