You guys forget the fact that Flash not reacting to and being hit by the Rogues' boomerang is explained - unlike when he was moving billions of times the speed of light against Zoom - by him not having his stats amped as high be the Speed Force at that point in time and thus all his stats were scaled accordingly high, including senses and durability. The fact is you are misconstruing his most high-end feats as his base when there are feats that dictate otherwise.
The proposal that Flash lives every second completely amped by the Speed Force - such that he lives 31.7 million years over every single second which would account for having a constant femtosecond reaction time - and he doesn't need to actively boost himself by the Speed Force - and thus Goku can't tag him before he amps himself, just as Flash could do the same to Goku - which is denied by feats of Flash being tagged by lower than Goku, is preposterous, but I will not deny it unless you can provide proof that Flash lives 31 million years every second of his life.
Just like Goku, Flash has to consciously boost his speed, durability and senses in order to accomplish such high-end feats and it's evident. Maybe this has changed in recent years with Wally and he really does live 30 million years in a second, if so, please say so, but if that's the case it doesn't explain how characters such as Darkseid can defeat Flash. Can Flash not simply defeat Darkseid in the 10 million years of time he has before Darkseid even processes the thought to manipulate time?
A bullet has been able to make its way to the Flash's skin before, though he was able to react to it - because he was amped enough - and it shows that he has no atmospheric sense like Goku has. So if Goku -bloodlusted against a morals on Wally- Instant Transmission'd out of his sight, Flash's first thought would be "Where did he go?" and because, just like when he was blitz'd and tagged by a boomerang, his stats weren't boosted enough, he would be unable to even think of boosting his stats before he is already blitz'd by the FTL speedster.
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In the exact same way, and for the exact same reason Flash would pummel Goku in base form at the start of a morals-on fight, Flash would be speedblitz'd for underestimating Goku's multiply exponential increase in speed and power by transforming into a Super Saiyan. Goku would not make the mistake of underestimating Flash twice. If he were morals on he'd be excited by the thrill of the fight, and there's no way he'd try to kill Flash.
If he were bloodlusted however, he wouldn't take the risk of letting Flash power up to his full potential; which he knows through telepathy, and senses through ki. As Flash first turns his head and begins to formulate the thought of boosting his speed through the Speed Force in order to locate Goku after he disappears using IT, he takes a punch to the face delivered from the corner of his eye that shatters his skull. Current Goku in base form would be comparable in combat speed to when he first when Super Saiyan. In the new movie Vegeta even has a laser-dodging feat while training in base form but we're just gonna have to wait for its English release to consider it.
It's common knowledge that bloodlusted Wally West is nigh-uncontestable because he would amp himself up to full power at the start of any fight. His feat of trillions of the speed of light is legitimately Godlike. I've never really debated that fact from the start, even if his strikes were limited to light-speed, like I thought at first, he could still run a hundred times or a million times the speed of light and hit his foe with that force.
I was merely questioning if the force of his punches scaled with his speed into the millions-of-times-the-speed-of-light, or if they were limited to the force of a light-speed IMP.
You see Flash's is not entirely like Quicksilver, who cannot willingly speed or slow down his superspeed and thus lives his life as if everyone else were speaking and moving very slowly. Perhaps to a certain extent Flash is metahuman and thus superhumanly powerful and quick, but it is clear his FTL feats come from consciously amping himself with the Speed Force.
And Goku uses IT to track Bills whose travel speed was incredible. Though again, haven't seen the whole movie.
Still I can see that's as far as we'll go in this debate. I wish Flash fans were more open-minded and didn't always spout the same bullshit of,
"HIS REACTION TIME IS FEMTOSECOND. UNLESS YOU HAVE FASTER REACTION TIME THEN HE SPEED STEALS BEFORE THEY REACT. GG NO RE"
Which of course would be the case of Wally bloodlusted, but that is all. Both speed steal and amping himself up fully to fight an opponent requires bloodlust. The claim is just as bad as DBZ fans who say every solution to a DBZ battle is destroying a planet. It's most extreme circumstance. Only a bloodlusted Goku would do that, and if it had people on the planet he wouldn't even do it then (see when he teleported Semiperfect Cell from Earth to King Kai's planet) It's not the planets that are most relevant to DBZ but the people, but alas the people cannot survive without their fragile planets.
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