#1 Edited by zMicahh (22 posts) - - Show Bio

Location- Metropolis (deserted, no civilians there)

Morals off

Battle to the death

15 minutes prep

Standard Gear/Gadgets/Weapons

Avengers make up(modern day):

Hawkeye, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Iron Man

#2 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off Wally should take this.

#3 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this movie Avengers or did you just use this picture?

#4 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

No matter if movie or no...Avengers win here.

Movie Avengers wouldn't stand a chance against morals off Wally. Regular Avengers would be a bit harder, but morals off Wally would probably take that, too.

#5 Posted by P0rtal (872 posts) - - Show Bio

None of the Avengers are anywhere near fast enough to even see Flash coming on a flat plain that spans 100 miles in every direction. If it were a death fight, Wally would crash into any of them at light speed and cause a cosmic level explosion killing everyone. Wally is super overpowered, not even Hulk and Thor could stand up to him...god bless Flash if he ever somehow slips and falls right into Thor or Hulks hands and doesn't have time to vibrate through their grasp.

#6 Posted by comicon1234 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

how would they stop the flash?

#7 Posted by Sundipped_Superman (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash Stomps, movie Avengers don't stand a chance here.

#8 Posted by DTFB (191 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash wins.

#9 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8281 posts) - - Show Bio

The Flash.

Like many others have stated he is just to fast for them.

On the offence he can hit them with IMP's they can't defend against.

On the defense they will not be able to even see him, much less fight effectively against him.

#10 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12184 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

No matter if movie or no...Avengers win here.

no they don't .....

he's still fast enough to make it so time stops around him ... nothing they can do if they are frozen

The strongest avenger is hulk ..... he handled someone stronger easily ...

He fought beings so fast, that they seem invisible ... as fast as him .... no one is as fast as Wally here....

He can vibrate through things and make them explode .... wonder what would happen if he did that to one of the avengers .........

He destroyed a speed force tower by running on it ..... he can run all over the avengers .....

He can use an Infinite Mass Punch (IMP) powerful as a punch from superman that sent Zum into another country .... he can KO or kill any avenger with this .....

If he can save over 100 people from a nuclear explosion (going back and forth) how do you think anyone of the avengers is gonna even touch him before he removes all of them from the competition ....

Wally West solos

#11 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: I think over 100 is a bit of an understatement, haha

Seriously, Wally has zeptosecond reaction time, and virtually unlimited speed. Avengers can't even touch him before they're knocked out or turned into statues for eternity like what he did to Inertia.

#12 Posted by sync1 (2967 posts) - - Show Bio

flash stomps....

#13 Posted by XMen1963 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

The Avengers are dead within 0.00000001 seconds.

#14 Posted by P0wer (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash hands down.

#15 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash is overpowered. He wins

#16 Edited by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Flash is overpowered. He wins

Not really.

Most of the time he isn't at his full potential.

#17 Posted by XEL820 (230 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a battle. Not a stomp. More like a massacre.

#18 Posted by SUPERBLACKHULK (43 posts) - - Show Bio

wtf come on flash can not beat all the avengers if flash can do all what the hell people on here say he would never get beat in the comics but he do and by lame bad guys like boomerang case in point

#19 Posted by HBKTimHBK (5242 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash wins, he blitzes them all

#20 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4806 posts) - - Show Bio

How can the Flash Hurt Thor or Hulk?

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#21 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash, movie or not.

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#22 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yung ANcient One said:

How can the Flash Hurt Thor or Hulk?

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Infinite Mass Punch. He (and Bart) has hurt Superboy Prime, White Martians, and more with his power.

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#23 Posted by Redberry (797 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash can beat anyone with tangible body. People hate on batman, but he's even more of a PIS device than Bat himself.

#24 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redberry said:

Flash can beat anyone with tangible body. People hate on batman, but he's even more of a PIS device than Bat himself.

It's not really PIS. He has the power; it's PIS when he doesn't use it, not when he does.

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#25 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

Flash, movie or not.

There is a movie Flash?

Just kidding. I agree with you completely.

#26 Edited by Redberry (797 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Redberry said:

Flash can beat anyone with tangible body. People hate on batman, but he's even more of a PIS device than Bat himself.

It's not really PIS. He has the power; it's PIS when he doesn't use it, not when he does.

I'm not a big fan of overpower characters. His power is so broad, it's allowed the writer to change the plot however they see fit. It's just not my thing.

#27 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:

@JediXMan said:

Flash, movie or not.

There is a movie Flash?

Just kidding. I agree with you completely.

Well....
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#28 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Erik said:

@JediXMan said:

Flash, movie or not.

There is a movie Flash?

Just kidding. I agree with you completely.

Well....

LOL I thought that was a television pilot that never got picked up. As a WW fanboy, I can happily say that at least the WW pilot did not suck as bad as JLA's pilot lol.

#29 Posted by henryarguelles5 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

With morals off...an angry Hulk will tank the IMPs, a warrior like Thor will go for the kill and use his full set of powers, which include travel (reflexes are debatable) at super speed, energy projection and absorption (maybe even Speed Force?), and his earth manipulation powers, and Iron Man, who should be able to at least track the Flash at his slower speeds. Two of the Avengers have an aerial advantage - Wally has none. Sure, Wally takes out the street-levelers, but the big Three are too much for him.

#30 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

With morals off.......everyone would be dead before they even know the fight had started.

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#31 Posted by chriconz123 (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5 said:

With morals off...an angry Hulk will tank the IMPs, a warrior like Thor will go for the kill and use his full set of powers, which include travel (reflexes are debatable) at super speed, energy projection and absorption (maybe even Speed Force?), and his earth manipulation powers, and Iron Man, who should be able to at least track the Flash at his slower speeds. Two of the Avengers have an aerial advantage - Wally has none. Sure, Wally takes out the street-levelers, but the big Three are too much for him.

Hulk, Thor, and Ironman gets killed against Wally. Morals on or off. He doesn't even have to kill to beat them, Flash simply has too much ways on killing any of the Avengers.

#32 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio
@henryarguelles5
 
Wally has fought Superboy Prime and beaten White Martians.
 
Yes, he is beating "the big three." And the flight advantage implies they'll even have time to get into the air before it's all over.
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#33 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan: Wally never really fought Prime, per se, his only interaction with Prime was helping push him into the Speed Force. Bart is the speedster who plagued Prime the most.

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#34 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:

@JediXMan: Wally never really fought Prime, per se, his only interaction with Prime was helping push him into the Speed Force. Bart is the speedster who plagued Prime the most.

Fair enough. However, if Bart's punches - which weren't full strength - can hurt Prime, then I see no reason why Wally can't do the same thing. I get the idea that Bart is potentially more powerful, but given the feats we have Wally is still more powerful.
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#35 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan: Agreed.

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#36 Posted by TDK_1997 (14896 posts) - - Show Bio

He would defeat them in no time.

#37 Posted by Pokeysteve (8301 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: Great scans!! I need to start reading Flash.

#38 Posted by toptom (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

@P0rtal said:

None of the Avengers are anywhere near fast enough to even see Flash coming on a flat plain that spans 100 miles in every direction. If it were a death fight, Wally would crash into any of them at light speed and cause a cosmic level explosion killing everyone. Wally is super overpowered, not even Hulk and Thor could stand up to him...god bless Flash if he ever somehow slips and falls right into Thor or Hulks hands and doesn't have time to vibrate through their grasp.

absolutely not. if he will crush against thor or hulk at the speed of light he will just die...at speed of light. people keep putting the flash against guys like superman,thor or the surfer when the flash struggles against character like captain cold or mirrormaster. for shure no one in the avengers can REACT to flash but hulk or thor can just stomp the ground causing a huge shockwave to destabilize him and tacking him out. if this is comics version thor he(after he is being hit 1 time or 1000) can just blow up the whole area.

#39 Posted by Killemall (18573 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Great scans!! I need to start reading Flash.

You will be surprised what you find, cant remember the exact issue but he's tried to blitz Spectre too ;)

#40 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

If its current Thor who still has some OF this will be a lot lot harder, and tbh I think Thor and Hulk can tank IMPs, Not sure can flash fly? Also how long would it take him to get to the Avengers?

#41 Edited by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Thunderer said:

If its current Thor who still has some OF this will be a lot lot harder, and tbh I think Thor and Hulk can tank IMPs, Not sure can flash fly? Also how long would it take him to get to the Avengers?

Neither Thor or Hulk have any durability feats that suggest they can even tank 1 IMP, but even if they did , they could not take them indefinitely, and flash can hit them as many times as he wants while neither of them can do anything to him.

Edit: Oh and unless you put them on different planets there is no distance on earth you can put between them that Flash cannot cross before they can even realize he was there

#42 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@P0rtal said:

None of the Avengers are anywhere near fast enough to even see Flash coming on a flat plain that spans 100 miles in every direction. If it were a death fight, Wally would crash into any of them at light speed and cause a cosmic level explosion killing everyone. Wally is super overpowered, not even Hulk and Thor could stand up to him...god bless Flash if he ever somehow slips and falls right into Thor or Hulks hands and doesn't have time to vibrate through their grasp.

absolutely not. if he will crush against thor or hulk at the speed of light he will just die...at speed of light. people keep putting the flash against guys like superman,thor or the surfer when the flash struggles against character like captain cold or mirrormaster. for shure no one in the avengers can REACT to flash but hulk or thor can just stomp the ground causing a huge shockwave to destabilize him and tacking him out. if this is comics version thor he(after he is being hit 1 time or 1000) can just blow up the whole area.

If no one in the avengers can react to Flash, how does Hulk or Thor stomp the ground to cause a shock wave?

You probably skipped the first page where there's a scan of Flash vibrating through walls making them explode (as well as a bunch of other amazing feats). The Avengers get blown up before they can react.

#43 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Thunderer said:

If its current Thor who still has some OF this will be a lot lot harder, and tbh I think Thor and Hulk can tank IMPs, Not sure can flash fly? Also how long would it take him to get to the Avengers?

Current Thor does not have any OF. He gave it all away to Dr. Strange to repair Mjolnir.

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#44 Posted by lagoon_boy (10952 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash stomps.

#45 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sundipped_Superman said:

Flash Stomps, movie Avengers don't stand a chance here.

This.

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

Wally West solos

You can't solo if you're not on a team.

#46 Posted by Kinasin_ (1200 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

#47 Posted by toptom (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@toptom said:

@P0rtal said:

None of the Avengers are anywhere near fast enough to even see Flash coming on a flat plain that spans 100 miles in every direction. If it were a death fight, Wally would crash into any of them at light speed and cause a cosmic level explosion killing everyone. Wally is super overpowered, not even Hulk and Thor could stand up to him...god bless Flash if he ever somehow slips and falls right into Thor or Hulks hands and doesn't have time to vibrate through their grasp.

absolutely not. if he will crush against thor or hulk at the speed of light he will just die...at speed of light. people keep putting the flash against guys like superman,thor or the surfer when the flash struggles against character like captain cold or mirrormaster. for shure no one in the avengers can REACT to flash but hulk or thor can just stomp the ground causing a huge shockwave to destabilize him and tacking him out. if this is comics version thor he(after he is being hit 1 time or 1000) can just blow up the whole area.

If no one in the avengers can react to Flash, how does Hulk or Thor stomp the ground to cause a shock wave?

You probably skipped the first page where there's a scan of Flash vibrating through walls making them explode (as well as a bunch of other amazing feats). The Avengers get blown up before they can react.

i know very well the flash, better than many people in this discussion that's seems. hulk and thor are no walls they will not explode,but yes they will feel pain as they will feel a little the flash'punches.

lets make an example: WHILE flash is hitting thor he stomps the ground with his hammer,so wally can (1)die in the blast or (2) run away from the explosion.meanwhile thor can take the air and summon a giant elettric storm that will incinerite the flash with the rest of area.even if flash manages to escape he can't do nothing to thor while he is in the air.

so there are 2 options: flash dies or this is a stalemate thanks to thor.

#48 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom: Flash could punch Hulk a million times before his foot even hits the ground or worse yet hit him with a million IMPs. Hulk hasn't shown the durability to even take one. Same with Thor. Or Flash could just steal both of their speeds and leave them as statues

#49 Posted by toptom (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

flash's IMP is way overrrated. he can hit with the force of a "white dwarf star" but he can just knok out a guy who isn't even invulnerable(i know that zoom as got a protective aura like wally but they are far away from being invulnerable.)

when he knocks out zuum(the martian) during the jla "new world order"story the ONLY white martian that was CLOSE to the superman's power level was protex. if i remeber well, also supes was capable of taking one martian down(the female one) with just a little punch.

regarding the scan with mongul..well..that is his weackest showing in 30 or 40 years of comics.

i also know that in one comics wonderwoman says that zoom fists are stronger than supermans one(because they travel at light speed) but when flash and zoom were fighting each other trough the globe they landed like a BILLION punch to each other and survive.i doubt that a speedester could survive to a single punch by superman if he is serius.

wally is a beast and i love his character but he is so much overrated. he can take down all the avengers except thor and hulk(maybe).

#50 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1801 posts) - - Show Bio