#1 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre New 52 Barry, Wally, and New 52 Bart.

Vs

Current Silver Surfer, Runner with Space Gem, and Classic Juggernaut (as in with his Force Fields)

Blood Lusted

Battle on a Indestructible Planet with Destructible Landscape.

- Cyrottak is interested in keeping Juggs in the fight.

#2 Posted by GhostRider2 (3619 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 because of SS and Juggernaut.

#3 Posted by Mortein (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider2 said:

Team 2 because of SS and Juggernaut.

Runner > SS and Juggernaut

#4 Posted by GhostRider2 (3619 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mortein: not a runner fan or expert i don't know much about him.

#5 Posted by comicace3 (6658 posts) - - Show Bio

Speed force, Speed force, speed force!

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#6 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#7 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5327 posts) - - Show Bio

Runner with the Space Gem solos everyone. Team 2 in a stomp

#8 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Runner with the Space Gem solos everyone. Team 2 in a stomp

To be fair he never really understood how to use it it seem.

#9 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#10 Posted by XLR87T3 (3042 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. SS can copy or absorb the speed force, and I'm not sure if Runner's speed can be stolen but if not he solos.

#11 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#12 Posted by pooty (11730 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider2 said:

@Mortein: not a runner fan or expert i don't know much about him.

Runner toyed with....played with....humiliated Silver Surfer. Runner out ran him. Dodge every blast. Got on his board and brought SS to his knees in a physical confrontation while SS was amping his power. Then took SS out with one mind blast and threw SS unconscious to the planet below. Did I mention that Runner was not even mad when he did this? Galactus swallowed Runner along with other Elders of the Universe and Galactus couldn't digest them. We have seen Thanos react and hit SS. We have seen Thanos stop Mjolnir after it is thrown. Thanos couldn't even see the Runner.

@CadenceV2 said:

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Runner with the Space Gem solos everyone. Team 2 in a stomp

To be fair he never really understood how to use it it seem.

Even without knowing how to use it, Runner was able to teleport just by thinking of where he wanted to be. Runner can also go intangible

#13 Posted by tomlikesfries (4892 posts) - - Show Bio

@XLR87T3 said:

Team 2. SS can copy or absorb the speed force, and I'm not sure if Runner's speed can be stolen but if not he solos.

Just because The Runner is an elder, doesn't mean that he is faster than Wally, Bart or Barry. He has beaten Silver Surfer before but it was out of sheer power and not speed.

Surfer's speed level is quite overrated as well. If not in space, Norrin can fly almost at the speed of light, which is incomparable to Wally West's speed.

#14 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: I did not know he can go Intangible.

#15 Posted by pooty (11730 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@pooty: I did not know he can go Intangible.

yes. he picked up Moondragon's physic thoughts and phased through the spaceship she was in. he said he was light years away

#16 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Nice.

#17 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

No speed if there is no momentum.

So the Flash team would need to stay as far away from Juggernaut as they can.

#18 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mortein said:

@GhostRider2 said:

Team 2 because of SS and Juggernaut.

Runner > SS and Juggernaut

It's funny. The fight between the Runner and The Surfer (in which Surfer was soundly beaten) was not a win for the Runner because of superior speed. They appeared to be on even footing in terms of combat speed. Englehart actually had the Runner outmuscle the Surfer. Yet, Surfer one shots Champion (without the power gem no less) with a bolt of the power cosmic in issue 1. While Englehart seemed to understand the aspect of speed as intricately tied to the Surfer's power set, I personally think he painted the Surfer as a bit of a pussy in terms of strength and the rest of his power set. Starlin did better and suprisingly, Ron Marz did a great job of returning the Surfer to his glory days (Stan Lee and John Buscema) in terms of power set.

Having said all that, The Runner with the space gem gave Thanos problems (until he used the time gem to return the Runner to an infant). Silver Surfer is typically pretty beastly in terms of power as is Juggernaut. I don't see The Runner and Surfer having a problem with the above listed DC speedsters. Juggsy, I think, stands frozen in time while the fight goes on around him. Only way Juggsy is a factor at all is if for some strange reason he is able to get ahold of one the Flashes.

I give it to team Marvel.

#19 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malevolent1: Juggs forcefield is how he is able to compete at all. It slows Momentum to a crawl around him and even cause attacks on him to bounce back. He can slow any of the Flashes down that get to near him to a stand still and even use said force field as a AoE attack of Crimson Cosmos Energy.

#20 Posted by GhostRider2 (3619 posts) - - Show Bio

For the last time SS owns Flash in a race he is multiple times faster than the speed of light if you don't know him stop comparing him with Flash.Flash is the overrated here i mean millions trillions really now?

#21 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

Cant really use the speed force on SS... Team 2 wins i think