Flash Rogues vs Ultimate X-Men

Owen Mercer, Heatwave, Captain Cold, Top

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Ultimate Colossus, Wolverine, Shadow Cat, Iceman, Jean Grey

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Bonus Match. Zoom vs Ultimate Phoenix

Both sides have Morals on. Start 500 feet from each other.

Hmmm I wanna say mirror master is a deciding factor.

As for the bonus... I really don't know

...... there is no Mirror Master.....

@cadencev2: I thought he was the first pic, I didn't read it, my bad. (Leaves thread in embarrassment)

Yeah, I left him out due to the fact the whole battle be Mirror Master solos. Unless Phoenix was in there and then it is a battle just between those 2.

I want to say X-men with the deciding factor of them having the extra person. would be very close I think =| I have no clue how to score the bonus match.

Flash Rogues stomp all over the Muties.

Top can solo.

Top+ Captain Cold, actually, is all that's needed.

@cadencev2: New-52 versions where pictured?

Have the Rogues any resistance to TP?

For the Bonus round, well I don't know. Phoenix can freeze time, and I don't know if Zoom has got any telepathic resistance

The Top is the Rogues' Telepath.

Actually friend we never did finish our last debate with Rogues vs Ultimates. i like to make a new thread of Rogues vs Ultimate X-Men some time. Just no Mirror Master or Zoom. I like wise have no all put Phoenix Jean.

We should make it happen.

Also how do Rogues affect Ultimate Kitty?

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She is tough enough to help Parker take down Super Human threats, like these Banshee amped humans.

She can Jam any tech with her Phasing.

she can pull organs out.

I'm pretty confident that Telepathy would incapacitate her. Phased or not.

And bending Light to induce Vertigo should work too.

Not to mention CC's gun affects everything at a molecular level.

It's my understanding that Kitty just seperates things at a molecular level, amirite?

@rogues: No clue, this Kitty from all the Comics I have had never had a scientific Explanation of her powers.

Also Jean there should keep Top from doing any Mind Raping.

But it's not just Mind raping that Top is capable of.

It's not explained how he does it, but he can twist and bend the way light is received through the eye's retinas.

My guess is his Telekinesis. He's had telekinetic powers since the Silver Age, and my guess is he has it down so refined that he can bend light.

Other than that, this ability has never been explained.

Also, the Top is the most formidable person here to go H2H with.

He's the only one of the Rogues that can actually go fist for fist with the Flash.

Do the rogues have any real answer to Jean Grey's telepathy....?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@rogues: @rogues: Yeah, Top is a telepath isnt he? How come he never Mind Rape Flash like he did the Rogues?

@cadencev2: because a Flash comic where the flash gets mind raped and murdered by Roscoe wouldn't sell very well.

Can Jean make mental barriers? Because I'm pretty sure that would stop any telepathic intrusion, and most Marvel Telepaths can do that pretty easily.

As for the Rogues, can't Jean just mind rape all of them but the Top? Then it's all vs. the Top...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Lol.

Why would Jean be the first person to act?