who will win
Flash and Zoom vs.Silver Surfer amd Quicksilver in a race
"Race? SS wins. Obstacle course? Zoom wins. "
how does SS win a race when zoom could have ran the race 1000000 times before SS can blink
" @High Revolutionary said:Simple."Race? SS wins. Obstacle course? Zoom wins. "how does SS win a race when zoom could have ran the race 1000000 times before SS can blink "
SS doesn't blink. Actually, SS is much faster than Zoom. We've been down this road before, we know where it leads.
*waits in the corner of the room until Zoom arrives*
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:do we really have to get into this again, zoom is beyond speed thus he is faster" @High Revolutionary said:Simple. SS doesn't blink. Actually, SS is much faster than Zoom. We've been down this road before, we know where it leads. *waits in the corner of the room until Zoom arrives* ""Race? SS wins. Obstacle course? Zoom wins. "how does SS win a race when zoom could have ran the race 1000000 times before SS can blink "
Zoom has never been shown at millions of times the speed of light. Surfer has. This depends on the rules of the race. If it's who crosses the finish line first, then Surfer wins. If it's which team crosses, then everyone else has already finished the race before Quicksilver knows it started.
Surfer wins depending on the version, WWH Surfer loses
Zoom slaps Quicksilver for thinking he is fast.
Flash depending on the flash tries to keep up! as he kicks Quicksliver to the curb just for being there.
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:Nobody puts Revolutionary in a corner." @High Revolutionary said:Simple. SS doesn't blink. Actually, SS is much faster than Zoom. We've been down this road before, we know where it leads. *waits in the corner of the room until Zoom arrives* ""Race? SS wins. Obstacle course? Zoom wins. "how does SS win a race when zoom could have ran the race 1000000 times before SS can blink "
I'll tell you what I told TP every time he said surfer was faster. Prove it. ;-)
"@Zoom: You prove it. Everyone here has seen Surfer moving not just many times faster than light, but in multiples of lightyears/second. That's far faster than anything I've seen Zoom do. "
you mean besides zoom moving faster then flash with all the other flashes speed?
"I'll note that Superman and Green Lantern can also travel across the universe in seconds. Zoom has made both of them look like statues. "lol i don't see how people don't get that zoom is not speed he's beyond it XD. however fast SS can go zoom can go faster
i knew you were gonna bring up warping. Surfer doesn't warp. he goes into hyperspace when he flies past the speed of light, but anything faster than light speed is hyperspace, which, by nature, bends time and space, so Surfer in hyperspace is perfectly valid. you could even say Zoom travels, acts, and sees things at hyperspace speed or "hyperspeed."
"i knew you were gonna bring up warping. Surfer doesn't warp. he goes into hyperspace when he flies past the speed of light, but anything faster than light speed is hyperspace, which, by nature, bends time and space, so Surfer in hyperspace is perfectly valid. you could even say Zoom travels, acts, and sees things at hyperspace speed or "hyperspeed." "
nooo, surfer uses warp to travel like this, this is what he does, if he could go hyperspeed then he would have no need to travel by worm holes at times
he used a wormhole once that i can remember.
most other times he's been shown to travel light years in seconds just cruising.
full on, he's warped holes through reality through his sheer speed. i can post scans after work.
and there's no mention of actually warping to a location. there is mention of warp speed, but that's just indicating how fast he's going.
Nooo. Surfer uses hyperspace to travel most of the time. He has travelled many times lightspeed without hyperspace, but using hyperspace is no less valid than Flash using the speed force or Zoom using time control. The simple fact is that Surfer has been shown far beyond Zoom or Flash in terms of speed. A race is simply getting from point a to point b and Flash and Zoom have no chance at doing that faster than the Surfer. Surfer will be the first one to finish this, unfortunately Quicksilver could run as fast as he could as far as he could every day for the rest of his life and only cover a fraction of the distance that the others could do in seconds. So if it's the first person accross the finish line wins it for their team, then the Surfer wins it for his team. If it's whichever team is first accross, Quicksilver costs them the race.
"Zoom doesn't move fast he slows down time. He is not faster than any of the people named. He has normal human speed. Zoom cant actually beat anyone in a race. He's a time manipulator. He's not fast. "
Zoom doesn't slow down time. He is super fast. I know I've explained this to you personally.
Go read a comic book. Then come back.
" @DC_Marvel_1000: Nooo. Surfer uses hyperspace to travel most of the time. He has traveled many times light-speed without hyperspace, but using hyperspace is no less valid than Flash using the speed force or Zoom using time control. The simple fact is that Surfer has been shown far beyond Zoom or Flash in terms of speed. A race is simply getting from point a to point b and Flash and Zoom have no chance at doing that faster than the Surfer. Surfer will be the first one to finish this, unfortunately Quicksilver could run as fast as he could as far as he could every day for the rest of his life and only cover a fraction of the distance that the others could do in seconds. So if it's the first person across the finish line wins it for their team, then the Surfer wins it for his team. If it's whichever team is first across, Quicksilver costs them the race. "perfect silver surfer wins
" @yodagod said:Its a team race, Quicksilver cost his team the race" @DC_Marvel_1000: Nooo. Surfer uses hyperspace to travel most of the time. He has traveled many times light-speed without hyperspace, but using hyperspace is no less valid than Flash using the speed force or Zoom using time control. The simple fact is that Surfer has been shown far beyond Zoom or Flash in terms of speed. A race is simply getting from point a to point b and Flash and Zoom have no chance at doing that faster than the Surfer. Surfer will be the first one to finish this, unfortunately Quicksilver could run as fast as he could as far as he could every day for the rest of his life and only cover a fraction of the distance that the others could do in seconds. So if it's the first person across the finish line wins it for their team, then the Surfer wins it for his team. If it's whichever team is first across, Quicksilver costs them the race. "perfect silver surfer wins "
Zoom leaves all 3 of them in the dust
" Zoom doesn't move fast he slows down time. He is not faster than any of the people named. He has normal human speed. Zoom cant actually beat anyone in a race. He's a time manipulator. He's not fast. "He doesn't slow time down. He's not even super fast. He just goes through time differently. He controls how fast or slow he moves in time.
This is a feat that SS has matched on his own before too (he's even been able to take people along with him).
"Prove what? This?Proooooooooove it. ;-)
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@High Revolutionary said:
" He controls how fast or slow he moves in time. "
The Flash and Zoom easily, the Flash is capable of augmenting someone speed by increasing how fast they move and Zoom can slow time around someone. They can multiple one another's speed making them obscenely fast.
@Zoom said:
@nonobee said:"Isn't zoom more of a "time traveler" technically than pure speed? "He's running from place to place. Who cares how his powers work?
Everyone arguing in favor against him? If he's not actually running at super speeds and it's a time manipulation ability it's relevant. Because iif what has been said about surfer so far is true, He'd grab quicksilver and they'd finish the race first. End of story. You're the odd ball out, you gotta prove why Zoom would win, not the other way around.
@KingofComix said:
@Zoom said:
@nonobee said:"Isn't zoom more of a "time traveler" technically than pure speed? "He's running from place to place. Who cares how his powers work?Everyone arguing in favor against him? If he's not actually running at super speeds and it's a time manipulation ability it's relevant. Because iif what has been said about surfer so far is true, He'd grab quicksilver and they'd finish the race first. End of story. You're the odd ball out, you gotta prove why Zoom would win, not the other way around.
Exactly.
Silver Surfer is millions of light years faster than Zoom could ever travel. A blood lusted Silver Surfer finishes this battle before everyone even starts the race.
Vouile
@Vouile said:
@KingofComix said:
@Zoom said:
@nonobee said:"Isn't zoom more of a "time traveler" technically than pure speed? "He's running from place to place. Who cares how his powers work?Everyone arguing in favor against him? If he's not actually running at super speeds and it's a time manipulation ability it's relevant. Because iif what has been said about surfer so far is true, He'd grab quicksilver and they'd finish the race first. End of story. You're the odd ball out, you gotta prove why Zoom would win, not the other way around.
Exactly.
Silver Surfer is millions of light years faster than Zoom could ever travel. A blood lusted Silver Surfer finishes this battle before everyone even starts the race.
Vouile
If Surfer could go about the universe so quickly so consistently why was there large gaps in the time it took him to find planets? As I've said above Zoom and Flash are able to multiply one another's speed this is no contest.
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