Five Man Arena Style Tournament

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#1 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

deadpoolrules: Team Flash Gordon

1. Rulk

2. Flash Thompson

3. John Stewart

4. Thunderstrike

5. Blue Beetle

Limitations: Regular Green Lantern Ring, No BFR for John Stewart, and his ring has a battery life (Because it's a regular ring)

DrinkUrPruneJuice77: Team Lame because he junked Punisher :(

1. Starfire

2. Omega Red

3. Havok

4. Daken

5. Iron Clad

Limitations: Omega Red is pre-resurrection.

Battlefield:

  • Structures: Made of Vibranium
  • Floor: Loose Dirt and Gravel
  • Stage: Adamantium perimintor. However, the height will now be changed to depth, and it will be filled with water.

Round 1: Random Encounter

§ 15 minutes of prep to share knowledge, choose starting positions, and discuss strategy. Cannot grab extra equipment with this time. Do not know who you are up against.

§ Random Encounter: Completely oblivious as to who they are up against.

§ 4 hour battle

Round 2: Team with Prep

§ Limited knowledge of opponents abilities and who they are. You do not know the strength of their abilities, you do not know their tactics, or personalities. You have about as much access as to what could be described to you off a newspaper.

§ Advanced Tech Allowed but limited: Iron Man can use stealth suits, bleeding edge, silver centurion, but not things like Iron Destroyer. Batman can use some of his one shot equipment, but nothing like the Insider Suit. Be reasonable, I'll tell you if it's not allowed, if you're not sure just ask.

§ 60 Minutes Prep - Don't go over the top with what equipment they have access to, be reasonable, I'll tell you if it's too much.

§ Change in limitations: Ceiling recedes at a rate of 1 meter per minute, until it is reduced to 25 meters high. Making it 5 meters above the height of the watch towers.

Round 3: You vs. Me

§ Limited Knowledge (You know the people, and their powers. But not the strength of their powers or special suits etc.)

§ Advanced Tech Allowed but limited: Read Round 2

§ 60 Minutes Prep: Read Round 2

§ My team starts opposite of where your team normally would

§ You will both state how you would beat my team

§ 5 hour time limit

My Team: Team Destruction

1. Iron Man (Silver Centurion)

2. Thing

3. Thor Girl

4. Deathstroke

5. Miss Marvel

Rule Changes:

  • Battlefield: Now has a pool
  • Round 1: Knowledge is now limited, read above for more details
  • Round 2: Limitations added, read above for more details.
  • Round 3: Knowledge is now limited, read above for more details.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#2 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

How did I not get in on this

#3 Edited by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@menaceforever said:

How did I not get in on this

If I remember correctly, you were less than a minute late in entering. As in the 8th slot filled moments before your computer posted your reply.

The finals for this will be up Monday the 24th and Friday the 29th. I will make a new tournament sometime after that. I'll be sure to send you a PM before I put it up.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#4 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Damn my timing, anyway is this an open debate?

#5 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@menaceforever said:

@Floopay: Damn my timing, anyway is this an open debate?

Absolutely. Just try to be fair to both participants, respectful, etc. etc. You can shoot down points, point out flaws in both teams, flaws in debate mechanics, reveal something is misinformation, etc. etc. Just try not to be insulting.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#6 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Also did you notice you put Iron Clad @Floopay:

#7 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Is this the Ted Kord BB?

#8 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

Is this the Ted Kord BB?

Jamie Reyes I believe.

@menaceforever:

Iron Clad is an Iron Man villain. He has density control, etc. etc.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#9 Posted by CadenceV2 (9876 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Im not understanding the Depth addition here. Is the whole place near underwater?

#10 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Floopay: Im not understanding the Depth addition here. Is the whole place near underwater?

Nope, just the stage (The yellow square) of the battlefield.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#11 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Ok then so I'll start.

My main disadvantage here is that 60% of his team can fly.....

Rulk is my biggest obstacles here, however I believe that Ironclad could give him a nice fight, he has one victory (with help) over Hulk.

Stewart has a limited battery life so I believe Havok could absorb his energy like he did to a sun.

As for Thunderstrike I'll leave Starfire to deal with him until I figure something out.

Flash would be dealt with by Omega Red via life drain.

BB.... Well I do believe Red could deal with Flash pretty easily and help Daken with him.

Thats my strategy for now, I've plenty more.

#12 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77:

He has 2 Flyers, where are you getting 80% of his team can fly?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#13 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77:

He has 2 Flyers, where are you getting 80% of his team can fly?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Thunderstrike

BB

John Stewart

I meant 60% my bad.

#14 Posted by Floopay (5631 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77:

Hrm, Thunderstrike can fly, I completely forgot about that to be honest. I remember he was horrible at it though, had an awful time with maneuverability. In fact I think he even mentioned he didn't like doing it, or that he was having a hard time controlling himself in the air or something. I'll have to see if I can't find some scans or something.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#15 Edited by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Oh,it's already up?

Good luck ,I was offline.

My strategie's

Well,Starfire is one of my biggest problems,as I have an advantage on the air,I could just blast your team from above,but still being hard to knock all of and Starfire is the difficultitie here,she can fly,blast,she is super intelligent and is invulnerable,but I think that Beetle and Stewart can take care of her.

Rulk is one of the decisive factor as well,not only outsmarting him can make you win,you have to be more tactic,he's an analiser and with 15 minutes,he can give a good fight,the only problem is that he KO himself after some hours,but he can take out Daken and Iron Clad,being a man who defeated ALL the hulked out heroes,he would find a way to take off Havok or would make Daken go nuts,as usual and actually attack the teamates,usually getting killed.

Omega Red can't lay a finger on Thompson,he cxan go up the walls and do some unexpected things that I'll post in the next commen,for he to lay a finger on Thompson,he has to be stronger,quicker and have a good resistance,Thompson is bringing his two guns,right?And not only he use this guns with his hands,he can use them with tendrils,so beating him down isn't the answer and IF the symbionte take control,than you're in a bad luck,because he's going for the kill.

Havok probably wouldn't reach Thunderstrike,giving him time to blast him from the air and then going down for a fair fight that he's probably winning due to his blasts,"flight" and super strenght.

As here:

He knocked Seth(I think) that has a metal armor and is two times bigger than him,with a punch,imagine what can he do combining blasts,flight and fighting skills?

#16 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

And the Flash scans:

Basic feats such as super strength, wall crawling, webs, claw formation, etc

tendril impalement feat

Taking massive gunfire with no recoil (whereas Classic Venom was blown backward by the same type of fire)

Operating a tank with tendrils

Operating a tank with tendrils

Taking a blade to the face, being unaffected, getting pissed and owning

INSANE levels of accuracy with tendril held guns

Try to beat this guy with Omega,really hard he really can beat Omega and continue to help the team.

#17 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: Well Omega did own Colossuss and Wolverine pretty easily

He was going to drain Colossuss completely if Wolverine had not interfered. Omega was not trying in this scan though he usually plays with his victims.

Thompson won't have enough strength to overpower his tentacles.

#18 Edited by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

Actually,not with a bloodlusted Thompson,in those pics,he's actually protecting civilians,imagine this in an areana with adamantium and water,plus his agility,he's like spidey,he could easily avoid the tentacles and make Omega confuse with web.

#19 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: As for Rulk, Daken has a nice coating of Maramusa on his lower claws that nullify ANY form of healing factor. He could havekilled Skaar who is arguably as strong as Rulk, having fought his dad WWH. Daken is also much faster.

#20 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: As for Rulk, Daken has a nice coating of Maramusa on his lower claws that nullify ANY form of healing factor. He could havekilled Skaar who is arguably as strong as Rulk, having fought his dad WWH. Daken is also much faster.

Skarr still being a noob into being a Hulk,Rulk actually isn't faster,but he can come up with greater plans,he already defeated Thor that's as strong as Hulk and Iron Man,that is faster than Daken.

See the pics,Rulk isn't that easy,Daken already fought big guys,but Rulk is a tactician,he alreay won from the FF,Hulk,Iron Man,Hulked Out Heroes,Thor and others.

#21 Posted by TheCannon (14193 posts) - 10 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

I'll give this one to deadpoolrules. Mainly because of Rulk and John Stewart.

#22 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules:

@deadpoolrules:

But Rulk did not beat Thor.

In fact Thor came back and nearly killed Rulk in their second fight.

Rulk is not on Skaar's level. Daken is much faster than Rulk so a strike to the jug would end Rulk.

#23 Edited by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk is not on Skaar's level. Daken is much faster than Rulk so a strike to the jug would end Rulk.

Depends,Daken only faced little leagues opponents,his biggest fight was against Punisher,Rulk has the versality here,your agility is nothing compared to a well-timed thunderclap,also Rulk did beat Thor,he needed the help of Hulk and A-Bomb to defeat Rulk and Rulk also defeated a hulkified version of Cyclops and used his lazers against the other,so he could do the same to Havok,and about Flash Thompson,he does not lose to Omega,you would need to catch him first,his death pores could deal some damage,but flash has tendrils and wall-crawling,giving him time,plus infinite web due to his symbionte,so he can actually make the opponents confused and his strenght,throwing Red away,after some good time,he would be able to take him down,and Omega drained Colossus' energy by his skin,not his metal skin,Flash has a bullet proof symbionte and already survived big explosions.

#24 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: As for Thompson, he may be more agile and arguably faster than Red, but then again Red has dealt with agile people before.

Reflexes fast enough to catch Nightcrawler port behind him.

Also forgot to mention his Carbonadium armor which adds even more to his durability.

If all else fails then death spores should handle Thompson. They managed to put Wolverine on a deathbed for 18 hours.

#25 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: As for Thompson, he may be more agile and arguably faster than Red, but then again Red has dealt with agile people before.

Reflexes fast enough to catch Nightcrawler port behind him.

Do you have the part where he actually deals with Nightcrawler,he just throwed a kid away here,and Flash is not only fast,he has two guns(I think) and infinite web,his tendrils accuracy is good enough for him to shoot Omega,while he confuse him with web,plus wall-crawling.Your just focusing in the agility,man,if he had only agility,then your theory would be true,think about the general.

#26 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk is not on Skaar's level. Daken is much faster than Rulk so a strike to the jug would end Rulk.

Depends,Daken only faced little leagues opponents,his biggest fight was against Punisher,Rulk has the versality here,your agility is nothing compared to a well-timed thunderclap,also Rulk did beat Thor,he needed the help of Hulk and A-Bomb to defeat Rulk and Rulk also defeated a hulkified version of Cyclops and used his lazers against the other,so he could do the same to Havok,and about Flash Thompson,he does not lose to Omega,you would need to catch him first,his death pores could deal some damage,but flash has tendrils and wall-crawling,giving him time,plus infinite web due to his symbionte,so he can actually make the opponents confused and his strenght,throwing Red away,after some good time,he would be able to take him down,and Omega drained Colossus' energy by his skin,not his metal skin,Flash has a bullet proof symbionte and already survived big explosions.

Was that fight with a Hulk Cyclops even canon? I don't think it was.

Also in that scan of Red draining Colossuss, Piotr was in his metal form but it showed his life force being drained and weakening him, essentially turning him into his skin form.

Daken did beat Skaar. Maramusa blade would end Rulk. Daken is too fast (almost Flash-like) and one blow could end Rulk

Flash was distracted in the pic btw.

#27 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk is not on Skaar's level. Daken is much faster than Rulk so a strike to the jug would end Rulk.

Depends,Daken only faced little leagues opponents,his biggest fight was against Punisher,Rulk has the versality here,your agility is nothing compared to a well-timed thunderclap,also Rulk did beat Thor,he needed the help of Hulk and A-Bomb to defeat Rulk and Rulk also defeated a hulkified version of Cyclops and used his lazers against the other,so he could do the same to Havok,and about Flash Thompson,he does not lose to Omega,you would need to catch him first,his death pores could deal some damage,but flash has tendrils and wall-crawling,giving him time,plus infinite web due to his symbionte,so he can actually make the opponents confused and his strenght,throwing Red away,after some good time,he would be able to take him down,and Omega drained Colossus' energy by his skin,not his metal skin,Flash has a bullet proof symbionte and already survived big explosions.

Was that fight with a Hulk Cyclops even canon? I don't think it was.

Also in that scan of Red draining Colossuss, Piotr was in his metal form but it showed his life force being drained and weakening him, essentially turning him into his skin form.

Daken did beat Skaar. Maramusa blade would end Rulk. Daken is too fast (almost Flash-like) and one blow could end Rulk

Flash was distracted in the pic btw.

Ok,Daken can do this,but can he escape from a thunderclap,remember it's 360 degrees attack with a good ranging,also it amplificate in the adamantium and I have noticed what you tried here,Flash almost died,but now he has got the symbiont,it improves his agility,and yes,it was a fight against Cyclops and other heroes.

#28 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: As for Thompson, he may be more agile and arguably faster than Red, but then again Red has dealt with agile people before.

Reflexes fast enough to catch Nightcrawler port behind him.

Do you have the part where he actually deals with Nightcrawler,he just throwed a kid away here,and Flash is not only fast,he has two guns(I think) and infinite web,his tendrils accuracy is good enough for him to shoot Omega,while he confuse him with web,plus wall-crawling.Your just focusing in the agility,man,if he had only agility,then your theory would be true,think about the general.

Well I was just trying to show that agility isn't going to affect Red

Red also has a healing factor, and Carbonadium armor so bullets wouldn't do much either.

Draining Thompson would not be easy though, but considering he drained Colossuss in his metal form I'd say a symbiote would not protect Thompson too much.

#29 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk is not on Skaar's level. Daken is much faster than Rulk so a strike to the jug would end Rulk.

Depends,Daken only faced little leagues opponents,his biggest fight was against Punisher,Rulk has the versality here,your agility is nothing compared to a well-timed thunderclap,also Rulk did beat Thor,he needed the help of Hulk and A-Bomb to defeat Rulk and Rulk also defeated a hulkified version of Cyclops and used his lazers against the other,so he could do the same to Havok,and about Flash Thompson,he does not lose to Omega,you would need to catch him first,his death pores could deal some damage,but flash has tendrils and wall-crawling,giving him time,plus infinite web due to his symbionte,so he can actually make the opponents confused and his strenght,throwing Red away,after some good time,he would be able to take him down,and Omega drained Colossus' energy by his skin,not his metal skin,Flash has a bullet proof symbionte and already survived big explosions.

Was that fight with a Hulk Cyclops even canon? I don't think it was.

Also in that scan of Red draining Colossuss, Piotr was in his metal form but it showed his life force being drained and weakening him, essentially turning him into his skin form.

Daken did beat Skaar. Maramusa blade would end Rulk. Daken is too fast (almost Flash-like) and one blow could end Rulk

Flash was distracted in the pic btw.

Ok,Daken can do this,but can he escape from a thunderclap,remember it's 360 degrees attack with a good ranging,also it amplificate in the adamantium and I have noticed what you tried here,Flash almost died,but now he has got the symbiont,it improves his agility,and yes,it was a fight against Cyclops and other heroes.

Actually thats not Flash Thompson, thats Barry Allen Flash.

You also risk injuring other people on your team with a thunderclap. Otherwise I would just release death spores to fill the air and kill everyone off in a matter of hours including my team.

#30 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: As for Thompson, he may be more agile and arguably faster than Red, but then again Red has dealt with agile people before.

Reflexes fast enough to catch Nightcrawler port behind him.

Do you have the part where he actually deals with Nightcrawler,he just throwed a kid away here,and Flash is not only fast,he has two guns(I think) and infinite web,his tendrils accuracy is good enough for him to shoot Omega,while he confuse him with web,plus wall-crawling.Your just focusing in the agility,man,if he had only agility,then your theory would be true,think about the general.

Well I was just trying to show that agility isn't going to affect Red

Red also has a healing factor, and Carbonadium armor so bullets wouldn't do much either.

Draining Thompson would not be easy though, but considering he drained Colossuss in his metal form I'd say a symbiote would not protect Thompson too much.

But still,bullets don't bother you,Hulk take bullets all the time,plus the web,he can just shoot Omega in the eyes with web and go close for an attack,and as I saw,Nightcrawler was thrown away,not drained.

#31 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: As for Thompson, he may be more agile and arguably faster than Red, but then again Red has dealt with agile people before.

Reflexes fast enough to catch Nightcrawler port behind him.

Do you have the part where he actually deals with Nightcrawler,he just throwed a kid away here,and Flash is not only fast,he has two guns(I think) and infinite web,his tendrils accuracy is good enough for him to shoot Omega,while he confuse him with web,plus wall-crawling.Your just focusing in the agility,man,if he had only agility,then your theory would be true,think about the general.

Well I was just trying to show that agility isn't going to affect Red

Red also has a healing factor, and Carbonadium armor so bullets wouldn't do much either.

Draining Thompson would not be easy though, but considering he drained Colossuss in his metal form I'd say a symbiote would not protect Thompson too much.

But still,bullets don't bother you,Hulk take bullets all the time,plus the web,he can just shoot Omega in the eyes with web and go close for an attack,and as I saw,Nightcrawler was thrown away,not drained.

What I'm talking is that Rulk have other ways to avoid Daken's agility,also he can endure a high quantity of damage,while Skaar don't and Daken beat Skaar,but did he beat Hulk?

Rulk did.

#32 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: No, Rulk did not beat Hulk. I really don't think Rulk is on Skaar's level. Unless you find scans to prove otherwise....

Also Skaar is on World War Hulk's level which outclassess both Hulk and Rulk.

#33 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCannon: Stewart is nerfed in this fight btw.

Read the OP

So is my Omega Red

#34 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: No, Rulk did not beat Hulk.

Also Skaar is on World War Hulk's level which outclassess both Hulk and Rulk.

He is but he don't know how to control it.

And Rulk almost killed Hulk and faced WWH and almost won.

And defeated Abomination and killed him (with a gun,but he beat him,xD):

He defeated Cyborg Hulk:

He drained Silver Surfer:

And in this comic he blacked out Hulk:

#35 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: Hhmmmm... This Loeb force is killing me lol.

Well all these feats many would label as PIS, but either way he'll be facing Daken. And when did Rulk face WWH?

Also Rulk lost both of those battles to Hulk.

#36 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: Hhmmmm... This Loeb force is killing me lol.

Well all these feats many would label as PIS, but either way he'll be facing Daken. And when did Rulk face WWH?

Also Rulk lost both of those battles to Hulk.

Well,I disagree with all PIS stuff,it's just about point of view.

Rulk faced WWH in Ofenders vs Defenders comic,a little bit before the Secret Invasion,so he would give a hard fight against Daken.

#37 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: True.

As for Rulk vs WWH, I really don't know if thats WWH he was fighting but idk..

As I said Daken's Maramusa claws would prove to be fatal to Rulk.

#38 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Now onto Thunderstrike, my next biggest obstacle.

Ironclad and Starfire with their combined efforts could maybe beat Thunderstrike.

And John Stewart, Havok could absorb his energy since he has a limited battery life. Rulk will be a little occupied with Daken so his energy siphoning won't come into play here.

#39 Edited by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules: True.

As for Rulk vs WWH, I really don't know if thats WWH he was fighting but idk..

As I said Daken's Maramusa claws would prove to be fatal to Rulk.

Yeah that's right,but still being hard to happen,Skaar is a crazy dude,he always want to fight h2h,he never analise,but Rulk's different,he actually can beat Daken,he just need time,once BB and Stewart finish Starfire(you really don't think they can't right?)they can help the others,Stewart helps Flash to get rid of Omega,since he wil need time to track down Flash,and BB help Rulk with his blasts,intelligence and strenght,plus Rulks feats they take down Daken and Havok.Thunderstrike can take on Iron Clad in a h2h fight(see the pic I posted),

#40 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules:

BB and Stewart would most definately beat Starfire.

But for John Stewart, Havok could absorb his energy since he has a limited battery life.

#41 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

BB and Stewart would most definately beat Starfire.

But for John Stewart, Havok could absorb his energy since he has a limited battery life.

Can Havok fly and beat Rulk?

If no,than he's not going to reach John Stewart,he already destroied Mogo with a Black ring,he can very well defeat Havok before he reaches his ring plus Rulk's help.

#42 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk would be a little busy with Daken. Daken is much faster than him and has his Maramusa.

And yes Havok can fly if he absorbs enough energy.

#43 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk would be a little busy with Daken. Daken is much faster than him and has his Maramusa.

And yes Havok can fly if he absorbs enough energy.

You mean he can fly IF he absorb energy,well that's not going to happen.

#44 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk would be a little busy with Daken. Daken is much faster than him and has his Maramusa.

And yes Havok can fly if he absorbs enough energy.

You mean he can fly IF he absorb energy,well that's not going to happen.

He doesn't have to be in contact with someone to absorb their energy, havok can actually absorb most forms of energy in the surrounding environment including gamma.

That is how he would deal with John Stewart.

#45 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Rulk would be a little busy with Daken. Daken is much faster than him and has his Maramusa.

And yes Havok can fly if he absorbs enough energy.

You mean he can fly IF he absorb energy,well that's not going to happen.

He doesn't have to be in contact with someone to absorb their energy, havok can actually absorb most forms of energy in the surrounding environment including gamma.

That is how he would deal with John Stewart.

Ok,thanks to this,I'm changing my tactics.

Red Hulk rushes running in the beggining,getting everybody dumb enough down,BB,Stewart and Thunderstrike go to the air and Thompson climbs in the wall.

Rulk takes on Daken,throwing him at the adamantium and keeping he busy.Thompson faces Omega and distract him with web,shoots and some close combats,Stewart take on Starfire and let the two others free,Blue Beetle blast Daken from above,helping Red Hulk,that finishes him up with a critical splash(LOL) in the adamantium wall,than black out.Thunderstrike gets down and take on Havok in a straight 1 on 1,Stewart finishes Starfire and take on Iron Clad,avoiding contact with Havok,Beetle goes down and help Thompson with Omega,Thunderstrike dies,but makes Havok tired,Omega goes down,Thompson and Beetle go after Havok,Beetle blast him while Flash confuse him with web and shots,Stewart finishes his job and the batterie,Thompson is injured and Beetle finish the fight.

#46 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules:

Good tactic.

Now I don't think anyone at my team is dumb enough to charge at Rulk besides Ironclad. But like I said Daken here with his Maramusa and his speed would potentially dodge all his attacks and nip Rulk which is all he needs to finish him.

Omega Red vs Thompson, I'm still iffy on this one so I'll leave it as is. But Red is fast enough to tag Nightcrawler so he should do the same to Thompson. Now in his grasp Red can begin to drain his life force which takes only seconds.

#47 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Good tactic.

Now I don't think anyone at my team is dumb enough to charge at Rulk besides Ironclad. But like I said Daken here with his Maramusa and his speed would potentially dodge all his attacks and nip Rulk which is all he needs to finish him.

Omega Red vs Thompson, I'm still iffy on this one so I'll leave it as is. But Red is fast enough to tag Nightcrawler so he should do the same to Thompson. Now in his grasp Red can begin to drain his life force which takes only seconds.

I'm not saying Rulk will beat him,I'm saying Rulk will keep him busy and tired,my tactic is getting your characters tired to make the victory happen,Rulk will do the possible,but don't you agree that Rulk can hit Daken,like 3 or 4 times,that's the sufficient for a injure,but not for a kill,the blasts will make him confuse,as he is tired,he won't avoid the final SPLASH(LOL),Thompson isn't that dumb,crawler did that because of the civilian,I don't see civilians at the field.

#48 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Good tactic.

Now I don't think anyone at my team is dumb enough to charge at Rulk besides Ironclad. But like I said Daken here with his Maramusa and his speed would potentially dodge all his attacks and nip Rulk which is all he needs to finish him.

Omega Red vs Thompson, I'm still iffy on this one so I'll leave it as is. But Red is fast enough to tag Nightcrawler so he should do the same to Thompson. Now in his grasp Red can begin to drain his life force which takes only seconds.

I'm not saying Rulk will beat him,I'm saying Rulk will keep him busy and tired,my tactic is getting your characters tired to make the victory happen,Rulk will do the possible,but don't you agree that Rulk can hit Daken,like 3 or 4 times,that's the sufficient for a injure,but not for a kill,the blasts will make him confuse,as he is tired,he won't avoid the final SPLASH(LOL),Thompson isn't that dumb,crawler did that because of the civilian,I don't see civilians at the field.

Thats not the point. Nightcrawler ported behind Red and Red caught him in that exact moment. Not even a teleporter is fast enough to avoid getting tagged by Red. Omega Red did not drain him because he actually toys with the x-men whenever they fight.

#49 Posted by deadpoolrules (4577 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

@deadpoolrules:

Good tactic.

Now I don't think anyone at my team is dumb enough to charge at Rulk besides Ironclad. But like I said Daken here with his Maramusa and his speed would potentially dodge all his attacks and nip Rulk which is all he needs to finish him.

Omega Red vs Thompson, I'm still iffy on this one so I'll leave it as is. But Red is fast enough to tag Nightcrawler so he should do the same to Thompson. Now in his grasp Red can begin to drain his life force which takes only seconds.

I'm not saying Rulk will beat him,I'm saying Rulk will keep him busy and tired,my tactic is getting your characters tired to make the victory happen,Rulk will do the possible,but don't you agree that Rulk can hit Daken,like 3 or 4 times,that's the sufficient for a injure,but not for a kill,the blasts will make him confuse,as he is tired,he won't avoid the final SPLASH(LOL),Thompson isn't that dumb,crawler did that because of the civilian,I don't see civilians at the field.

Thats not the point. Nightcrawler ported behind Red and Red caught him in that exact moment. Not even a teleporter is fast enough to avoid getting tagged by Red. Omega Red did not drain him because he actually toys with the x-men whenever they fight.

My objective neither is beating him,it is shoot/web in the eyes- punch/kick

I won't get closer while he isn't blind,that's the point,anyway,he's going down,Beetle wouldn't let he be alive much more and Stewart can fight h2h very well,so nothing would change the fact Havok is going down.

#50 Edited by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - 10 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@deadpoolrules: Well while Daken occupies himself with Rulk and Red occupies himself a bit with Thompson.

Havok's force fields are no laughing matter either.

He would have just enough time to absorb John Stewart with no distractions.

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