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Do research if you don;t know the characters. Please use logic and resist the urge to blabber in fanboyism.
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Do research if you don;t know the characters. Please use logic and resist the urge to blabber in fanboyism.
every thing fire storm can do SS can do the same thing but better. Firestorm can transmute non organic objects. SS can transmute practically anything
he goes about 4 times light speed where firestorm is much slower
and then you have the power cosmic blast which would destroy firestorm
surfer can also use his power cosmic to augment his strength to incalcuble levels perhaps he could even out power or match superman with this method
SS is like a big swis army knife of heroes
I think the only way firestrom could beat SS would be to find a way to become one with martian manhunter, superman, and the flash
but firestorms weakness is that he is already fused with two people which the two minds dont always agree
Yeah, I guess I don't quite see why you'd even match these two guys up. Might as well match Batman up against the Surfer.
Actually Surfers transmutation powers cannot effect masses and objects as large as Firestorms.
A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it.
We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big.
If Firestorm can only manipulate non-organics, then surely he could effect SS's silver outer layer as I don't think that it is really organic in nature. If this is correct, he could also destroy the surfboard (and I know that SS can recreate it).
Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted.
IF U WATCHED FANTASTIC FOUR NUMBER TWO, U WILL SEE THAT SILVER SURFER CAN TURN THE DESERTS INTO A COLD COUNTRY
Alpha says:
"Is Firestorm still combined with Firehawk? If so, does it augments his power any? "
Not really.
Cannonball says:
"IF U WATCHED FANTASTIC FOUR NUMBER TWO, U WILL SEE THAT SILVER SURFER CAN TURN THE DESERTS INTO A COLD COUNTRY"
Sorry, are you referring to a cartoon ?
If so then it is no cannon and should not be considered.
In the future please post a point that actually means something.
The_Creator says:
"Actually Surfers transmutation powers cannot effect masses and objects as large as Firestorms. A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it. We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big. If Firestorm can only manipulate non-organics, then surely he could effect SS's silver outer layer as I don't think that it is really organic in nature. If this is correct, he could also destroy the surfboard (and I know that SS can recreate it). Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted."I think his skin is probably consider organic like Colossus and Thing, but I can't say that is 100% true. As for this power, didn't get just get a boost in power recently?
Nobody says:
"The_Creator says:"Actually Surfers transmutation powers cannot effect masses and objects as large as Firestorms. A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it. We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big. If Firestorm can only manipulate non-organics, then surely he could effect SS's silver outer layer as I don't think that it is really organic in nature. If this is correct, he could also destroy the surfboard (and I know that SS can recreate it). Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted."I think his skin is probably consider organic like Colossus and Thing, but I can't say that is 100% true. As for this power, didn't get just get a boost in power recently? "
He seems to have one at the end of Annihilation - as he resumed his rightful place at Galactus's side.
But I have not use his power to turn a battle ship sized item to flowers of the like.
In the movie, it wasn't the Surfer changing the weather, it was an effect of his comming into the atmospher....or some other such scientific blather, lol :\
and for mor non-canon matter transmutaion, Check out the Super-man/Surfer crossover :P
oh....Surfer easy....
"The Surfer has managed to to affect matter (both organic, and inorganic, simultaneously) on a planetary scale in the past, on at least two occasions, even though it did strained him. That is also verified in his entry in OHOTMU: Fantastic 4, 2005.
A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it.
We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big.
"
"Adamantium does not exist in DCU how does Firestorm make it? Is he standing in Marvel Universe with a sample of Adamantium next to him?Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted.
"
" @the creator said:"So Firestorm wins this?He seems to have one at the end of Annihilation - as he resumed his rightful place at Galactus's side.
But I have not use his power to turn a battle ship sized item to flowers of the like.
"
Epic fail
"Actually Surfers transmutation powers cannot effect masses and objects as large as Firestorms.
A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it.
We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big.
If Firestorm can only manipulate non-organics, then surely he could effect SS's silver outer layer as I don't think that it is really organic in nature. If this is correct, he could also destroy the surfboard (and I know that SS can recreate it).
Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted.
"
" @OhTru said:Ooh, ooh, can I post an epic fail pic about OhTru, or, is infamous alias, Batdance?" @the creator said:"So Firestorm wins this?He seems to have one at the end of Annihilation - as he resumed his rightful place at Galactus's side.
But I have not use his power to turn a battle ship sized item to flowers of the like.
"
Epic fail
Why the hate Batdance ?
If you are going to quote someone, try at least to quoting all of the posting so as not to mislead people. We would not want anyone to accuse you of anything : )
Oh and don't forget that this was posted over 2 yrs ago.
@the creator said:""Actually Surfers transmutation powers cannot effect masses and objects as large as Firestorms.
A key example of this was seen in Secret Wars II when SS stated that he could not repair a tear in the earths crust but could help guide Molecule man to fix it.
We have seen Firestorm transmute aircraft carrier size objects. SS has never done anything that big.
If Firestorm can only manipulate non-organics, then surely he could effect SS's silver outer layer as I don't think that it is really organic in nature. If this is correct, he could also destroy the surfboard (and I know that SS can recreate it).
Although I think that SS will win, Firestorm can hurt him or try to contain him (inside a gigantic transmuted block of adamatium) if he wanted.
"
"Except this time Methos and Buckshot are no longer licking your bootsWait, why am I not mentioned? You're hurting my feelings here...
Vance, Lunacyde, DCMarvel1000, LanceUppercut, Spiderpigbart,Gerladthesloth, Matezoide StaticShock and part of your old school might still love you,
your old cool club from your retirement home might still worship the ground you walk on. But nobody else does "
Worry not, he mentioned you on another thread." @OhTru said:
"Except this time Methos and Buckshot are no longer licking your bootsWait, why am I not mentioned? You're hurting my feelings here... "
Vance, Lunacyde, DCMarvel1000, LanceUppercut, Spiderpigbart,Gerladthesloth, Matezoide StaticShock and part of your old school might still love you,
your old cool club from your retirement home might still worship the ground you walk on. But nobody else does "
" @jloneblackheart said:" I'm fairly new and I always check to see what the Creator has to say. "Don't listen to that, everyone checks what the creator has to say. "
"I'm fairly new and I always check to see what the Creator has to say. "
" Unfortunately a vine user named creator once exposed himself as a DC numbskull by saying superman beats goku and superman beats the starwars verse under any circumstances and exposed himself by ranking superman at 5 times the power of Galactus.Any reason you've posted and deleted this for like 4 times now?
You heard it right - 5 TIMES GALACTUS
He even attemped to verify this nonsense by pulling ridiculous numbers out of his butt
today he is still the same DC fanboy
@the creator
said:"He seems to have one at the end of Annihilation - as he resumed his rightful place at Galactus's side.
But I have not use his power to turn a battle ship sized item to flowers of the like.
"
Epic fail
@the creator said:The vine is far busier today than it was 2 years ago" @Morpheus_ said:
" @jloneblackheart said:" I'm fairly new and I always check to see what the Creator has to say. "Don't listen to that, everyone checks what the creator has to say. "
@jloneblackheart said:"I'm fairly new and I always check to see what the Creator has to say. "Thanks you both. "
Morpheus is just throwing you a bone so you don't get splatted in RushHour traffic again
@Sling Shot
said:"I would think SS.
"
Surfer should take it
@the creator
said:Two years ago you were a biased idiot who ranked Superman at five times the power of Galactus"
Oh and don't forget that this was posted over 2 yrs ago.
"
sometimes you tried to give yourself credibility with PIS fanboy numbers you pulled out of you butt
Except this time Methos and Buckshot are no longer licking your boots
Vance, Lunacyde, DCMarvel1000, LanceUppercut, Spiderpigbart,Gerladthesloth, Matezoide StaticShock and part of your old school might still love you,
your old cool club from your retirement home might still worship the ground you walk on. But nobody else does
The old vine Moderators admitted they were DC biased, they are far more moderate today and they no longer jerk you off
Most newcomers have seen through your transparent BS
You can reminisce about the days the vine 'used to be great' or or when people used to think Superman always stomped Goku or when Superman always beat Galactus, you can reminisce how it used to be better to your liking but those days are long gone
2 years ago you were a biased idiot
Today you are still a biased fanboy idiot
@jloneblackheart
said:Trainwrecks are always interesting" I'm fairly new and I always check to see what the Creator has to say. "
especially when someone superman fanboy thinks of himself as the train driver, its such a mess nobody can stop themselves from watching the wreck
@AtPhantom
said:You AtPhantom are actually quite moderate," @OhTru said:
Wait, why am I not mentioned? You're hurting my feelings here... ""Except this time Methos and Buckshot are no longer licking your boots
Vance, Lunacyde, DCMarvel1000, LanceUppercut, Spiderpigbart,Gerladthesloth, Matezoide StaticShock and part of your old school might still love you,
your old cool club from your retirement home might still worship the ground you walk on. But nobody else does "
I wouldn't class you as biased to Anime, Marvel or DC
The only characters I've ever seen you jerk off are
Dr Fate and The New Darkseid you seem to get fanboyish with them
As opposed to some of the other people who expose themselves as idiots by jerking off the whole of DC verse etc
You do seem to have some bum buddy thing going on with creator, you seem to tolerate his BS and you seem to have this pal thing going on from way back
Other than this I would have zero complaints about you
You're very moderate, rarely troll and provide good comic evidence
@Nighthunter
said:yeah and magnitudes faster ""
Silver surfer is a stronger version of firestorm.
" You AtPhantom are actually quite moderate,I'm actually insulted by this....
I wouldn't class you as biased to Anime, Marvel or DC
The only characters I've ever seen you jerk off are
Dr Fate and The New Darkseid you seem to get fanboyish with them
As opposed to some of the other people who expose themselves as idiots by jerking off the whole of DC verse etc
You do seem to have some bum buddy thing going on with creator, you seem to tolerate his BS and you seem to have this pal thing going on from way back
Other than this I would have zero complaints about you
You're very moderate, rarely troll and provide good comic evidence"
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