Firestorm vs Quasar

Which Firestorm are we using?

Current Firestorm would own, Jason/Ronnie can transmute organic matter and although Ronnie and Jason both have to know what they are doing, they can still reduce Quasar to water. Firestorm also has enough power to cause a new big bang.

" Current Firestorm would own, Jason/Ronnie can transmute organic matter

Firestorm can go intangible too, Dunno if he can transmute Quasars constructs though.

" @Skaddix said:

" Current Firestorm would own, Jason/Ronnie can transmute organic matter

When has the current Firestorm (Jason/Ronnie) shown to transmute organic matter? Whenever introduced in Brightest Day, it states that they can only affect inorganic matter. "

Can't Quasar just drain him?

" Can't Quasar just drain him? "

Firestorm has never been drained before, anyway.

Quasar in the past was taking energies like Vulcan. IIRC he was even draining Surfer.

"IIRC he was even draining Surfer. "

" Quasar in the past was taking energies like Vulcan. IIRC he was even draining Surfer. "

" @czarny_samael said:

"IIRC he was even draining Surfer. "

Scans? "

Besides the quantum bands preventing him from being transmuted.

" Besides the quantum bands preventing him from being transmuted. "

sorry how powerful is quasar with his quantum bands? i dont really have too much info on him...can someone show me a repsect thread or scans or just write up about him, his comicvine page isn't very useful.

" sorry how powerful is quasar with his quantum bands? i dont really have too much info on him...can someone show me a repsect thread or scans or just write up about him, his comicvine page isn't very useful. "

 This is a stalemate IMO. 

"although Ronnie and Jason both have to know what they are doing, they can still reduce Quasar to water. Firestorm also has enough power to cause a new big bang. "

They just need to know what they want to transmute to, they don't need to know the molecular structure of what they are transmuting. Jason/Gehanna could transmute organic matter so could Black Lantern Firestorm and there is nothing to suggest that Firestorm cannot anymore. Plus if this is bloodlusted they start arguing big bang and absolutely eliminate Quasar.

" They just need to know what they want to transmute to, they don't need to know the molecular structure of what they are transmuting.

Jason/Gehanna could transmute organic matter so could Black Lantern Firestorm and there is nothing to suggest that Firestorm cannot anymore.

I think Firestorm gets blitzed, he doesn't seem to have speed feats to match Quasar

Quasar wins.

Firestorm can go intangible too, Dunno if he can transmute Quasars constructs though.

Not really it depends on how your intangibility works.

Quasar, without many issues.

Quasar, but a good fight.

@finalstar86:

You'd have to read that issue. Quasar through the fight, when discovering he fought for the wrong side. Quasar can't be transmuted because the bands auto-protect from energies then absorb them.Even giving him superhuman durability in the Surfer fight.

Quasar

Firestorm. He overloaded the likes of DCnU Captain Atom. He'd turn Quasar into salt.

Firestorm is scary strong, he wins without a doubt.

Quasar

@turtletortoise:

He's a universal power (under Johns) and stated to be one of the most powerful on DC earth. One-shotted Black Adam, defeated Orion, and overloaded a better energy user, captain atom.

Quasar is an energy being with full control of his quantum state. So transmutation is out.

Quasar has no upper limits to his energy absorption, and absorbed a star once, casually, just to get someone's attention. He's also passively drained Silver Surfer and other heralds before (on multiple occasions).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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