Poll Firestorm VS Hulk (122 votes)
Morals off
No prep
Standard gear
Pre flashpoint
Basic knowledge of each other
Morals off
No prep
Standard gear
Pre flashpoint
Basic knowledge of each other
@sithlantern93: @foreverevil: Question: What can FS do to put Hulk down? He's resistant to transmutation or molecular manipulation , he just tanked a cannon that rewrites molecular structure in his book. Can FS BFR Hulk? FS has flight advantage but do you really think he can wear down Hulk with energy blasts?
@sithlantern93: @foreverevil: Question: What can FS do to put Hulk down? He's resistant to transmutation or molecular manipulation , he just tanked a cannon that rewrites molecular structure in his book. Can FS BFR Hulk? FS has flight advantage but do you really think he can wear down Hulk with energy blasts?
well I'm not supposed to take sides and I wont but since you asked. Since these battles take place in a shared universe, he could make adamantium blades the size of a house inside his stomach. He could make an adamantium straight jacket and then BFR him. ETC ETC ETC. Im just saying. But as i said. Im not supposed to take sides or making arguments for either character. just answering your question that you directed at me.
@wavemotioncannon: He can drain the gamma radiation like Surfer did.
@foreverevil: the blades in the stomach probably wouldn't work and wouldn't FS gave to know the composition of adamantium before he could make it ( if this isn't Prof. Stein)? If he did the Adamantiium straight jacket BFR combo works for me lol.
@foreverevil: the blades in the stomach probably wouldn't work and wouldn't FS gave to know the composition of adamantium before he could make it ( if this isn't Prof. Stein)? If he did the Adamantiium straight jacket BFR combo works for me lol.
the battles always take place in a shared universe unless specified by the OP...and I'm the OP. So yea he'd know how to make it. He'd be an idiot to in a world with a metal so bad ass like adamantium and not use it.
@foreverevil: the blades in the stomach probably wouldn't work and wouldn't FS gave to know the composition of adamantium before he could make it ( if this isn't Prof. Stein)? If he did the Adamantiium straight jacket BFR combo works for me lol.
Elements tied to the Firestorm Matrix can absorb massive amounts of energy as well as being able to absorb many different types of energy. Most commonly the elements and energies associate with life and the human body are absorbed.
Gamma radiation is created when an atom undergoes radioactive decay, which is nuclear power, which is one of Firestorm's specialties... why his second alias is The Nuclear Man.
Therefore he can pull a Silver Surfer and turn Hulk back to Bruce Banner.
@foreverevil: the blades in the stomach probably wouldn't work and wouldn't FS gave to know the composition of adamantium before he could make it ( if this isn't Prof. Stein)? If he did the Adamantiium straight jacket BFR combo works for me lol.
the battles always take place in a shared universe unless specified by the OP...and I'm the OP. So yea he'd know how to make it. He'd be an idiot to in live a world with a metal so bad ass like adamantium and not use it.
the battles always take place in a shared universe unless specified by the OP...and I'm the OP. So yea he'd know how to make it. He'd be an idiot to in a world with a metal so bad ass like adamantium and not use it.
Or Depleted Promethium, but I see your point...
Can he not drain him like the surfer did or transmute his gamma radiation into a more reactive radiation as to harm hulk (maybe I don't know much about FS so any advice would be much appreciated)
What's the starting distance?
good question...lets go with 50 feet?
Firestorm takes it.
Not pertinent to the outcome of the battle, but I just wanted to say that I always loved Firestorm's costume. It's a great piece of design and the red/yellow colors work perfectly together with the fire and his powers.
Feats for Firestorm?
and of course, he can transmute stuff.
Hulk doesn't really stand a chance here. He's got no way to hit Firestorm given intangibility and teleportation, while Firestorm could freeze or BFR him.
and of course, he can transmute stuff. hulk has also resisted a gun that rewrites molecules, so moot point.
Hulk doesn't really stand a chance here. He's got no way to hit Firestorm given intangibility and teleportation, while Firestorm could freeze or BFR him. points made above
and of course, he can transmute stuff. hulk has also resisted a gun that rewrites molecules, so moot point.
Hulk doesn't really stand a chance here. He's got no way to hit Firestorm given intangibility and teleportation, while Firestorm could freeze or BFR him. points made above
Yeeeah, if there's one thing you can count on not working on Hulk it's elemental, energy and transmutation attacks. I hope he has something else up his sleeve.
one shotted Black Adam impressive, although seems hard to beleive if he is depicted as fighting superman level characters
Well... it happened. Not sure what's so hard to believe about it- Firestorm's a high herald level character, and the most experienced iterations of him always have been
tanked the blasts of an entire advanced space armada hulk has tanked planet busting blasts
Black Adam's tanked blasts from planet busters too
was fairly even in a fistfight against Kalibak (a new god with Superman-level physicals)hulk is usually depicted to be stronger than thor, so moot point
ok
tagged Kid Flash (Bart) hulk has tagged quickilver and other supersonic speedsters, but feats for kid flash?
Kid Flash is much, much faster than Quiksilver. The former is approaching the speed of light, the latter's hypersonic.
Diversity
Trapped Killer Frost in an absolute zero field (Hulk has no resistance to absolute zero)hulk has resisted absolute 0 in indestructible hulk
Uh... I hope you're not talking about this:
Where Hulk literally had a suit emitting thermal energy that partially cancelled out the absolute zero field.
Not really resisting absolute zero, at all.
can BFR people into the Firestorm Matrix, a separate dimension hulk has resisted being bfr to the negative zone
???? How do you resist BFR?
Regardless, Firestorm can also use zeta radiation to teleport Hulk light years away.
redirected Darkseid's Omega Beams back at him wow, but not really appliccapbe aginst hulk
that's fair
intangibility hulk has grabbed vision(not too sure) before
Scans? I don't remember Hulk ever grabbing Vision while Vision was intangible.
teleportation (depending on which version of FS this is) not really useful if he isnt hurting him/ hurting him but he instantly heals
and of course, he can transmute stuff. hulk has also resisted a gun that rewrites molecules, so moot point.
And Firestorm can override transmutation resistance.
Hulk doesn't really stand a chance here. He's got no way to hit Firestorm given intangibility and teleportation, while Firestorm could freeze or BFR him. points made above
Regardless, the fact remains that there's no way for Hulk to feasibly tag Firestorm given intangibility and teleportation. At best it's a stalemate.
@thenewbluebeetle007: @battle123axe: Do either of you have the scan where Hulk resisted molecular manipulation? Also, Hulk didn't grab Vision. On one occasion Vision went inside Hulk and had trouble escaping Hulks girth. Another time Hulk was swinging at Vision and couldn't touch him. It really comes down to who has the better manipulation or resistance feats.
@nerevarine_11: Grey Hulk was transmuted by Grey Gargoyle. But turned back to Hulk on his own. Later the High Evolutionary couldn't transmuted Hulk and High Evolutionary has transmuted planets. So Hulk does have transmutation resistance feats
@thenewbluebeetle007: Firestorm 1 shotting BA is a high end feat
Why are you pointing out that BA has survived planetary attacks?
QS is FTL or reaching it (idr which)
Hulk has never tagged Vision while intang, but he can see him when he is supposed to be invisible
Firestorm doesnt spam intangibility enough to easily snuff Hulk out
@darkbiscuit: Comic QS only has one FTL Feat(Outrunning Radio Waves) and to my knowdlege he doesn't have any other feats that put him at that level, so that could be considered an outliner.
@thekinfing: Yeah i got carried away and couldnt remember what put him at LS. That explains it: one feat
@willpayton: Agreed.
I'd definitely say it's one of the overall iconic looks that deserves more recognition.
On paper: Firestorm
Featwise: Hulk
This guy knows his shit ^
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