I don't understand what is the point of these scans.
In first he is attacked by completly different kind of energy and in second he is getting trashed.
@Funcake said:
@czarny_samael666: @czarny_samael666 said:
Still, Surfer said by himself that he can take star's heat, but he can't take Firelord's.Because it is not the heat, it is the alien science of Galactus. You can see it in your scan.
@czarny_samael666 said:
This means that Firelord's is greater/hotter/more powerfull.Sorry, no it is just a sort of energy that surfer can not handle.
Still, it is stronger than heat of normal star. We don't know how much stronger, I agree, but it is stronger, since it was able to hurt people, who weren't hurt by star's heat.
@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Still, Surfer said by himself that he can take star's heat, but he can't take Firelord's. This means that Firelord's is greater/hotter/more powerfull. BA couldn't take Supe's strike without being hurt, so I don't see how it is a feat that tell us that he can take similar (stronger acctually) shot from Firelord? Even opposite, if one short shot could knocked him back (and it is hard to belive that Superman started with full power, it isn't in his character), then what real chance he has against Firelord's heat (that was also able to hurt Thor, who survived in heart of sun)? As fact we do know, that Surfer and Thor were hurt by Firelord's heat. According to Surfer's opinion, it is more dangerous than star's heat. So question is: Do we know any scan in which Black Adam is taking similar shot easily? One with Superman is actually point for Firelord, since Supe was able to put down BA (not KO).You're ignoring the fact that Surfer attributed Firelord's heat to Galactus' science, not his own innate heat. And you're also ignoring the fact that in that same fight, Surfer defeated Firelord by absorbing large quantities of his heat and blasting him with it. Again, am I supposed to believe that Firelord cannot stand his own heat?
Where was Adam hurt? He was pushed through a wall. And then he got back up and continued fighting. There was no sign of any damage. Surfer and Thor have been hurt by many, many things that were not as hot as the sun. Your problem is that you're looking at this through the lens of their high-end durability feats rather than where their durability lies on average. Are Legacy's photonic blasts as powerful as attacks supposedly hotter than the sun? Nope. And yet they managed to hurt the Surfer. Are Explorer's energy attacks as powerful as attacks supposedly hotter than the sun? Nope. And yet they managed to hurt the Surfer. Are we going to claim that all of those attacks must be more powerful than the heat of the sun? Are we going to pretend that characters always display durability on an unyielding level?
You posted a fight between Firelord and Thor as proof of his physical durability. At the same time, he's also been stomped by the Surfer:
1. Which doesn't change the point that Firelord's fire can hurt more than star's.
2.Adam was knocked back by single shot, how is that a feat for him? Yeah, Thor was hurt by lesser EP, as well as Surfer, but Surfer said by himself, that Firelord is making more damage than heat of star, I am mentioning Thor, to prove that it wasn't one-time feat. It also shouldn't matter why it is that powerfull,is it magic, Galactus' science or anything else that made it so strong - it just is. Adam, as Thor was hurt by lesser energy projection, but is there a reason to belive that he can take that powerfull shot? If he never took so great energy attack without being hurt/knocked off/putted on his knees, why we should consider that he can take it?
3.It wasn't a one feat. They fought two/three times(I won't repeat one from above of course) and Firelord never lost (and never won):
If Terrax can fight with two/three herlads at once it is only a good feat for Terrax, a specially that Terrax was never weak, he was just stupid.
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