#1 Edited by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

And now for Godzilla's hardest fight yet, a battle against someone significantly larger than him and capable of simply shrugging off dropping from orbit and getting relentlessly pummeled by the autobots for the better part of a level, and then dropping off a cliff straight down to the core and still being largely intact. Can the King of Monsters take on the mightiest Decepticon ever to be made?

Trypticon facts:

Size: 300+meters assuming Optimus is his usual 9-10 meters and calculating from there.

Mass: Lots, I'd peg him for being at least a quarter of a million tons as an absolute minimum.

Weaponry: Mouth ray, shoulder cannons, rapidfire nose guns, four gun turrets on his tail, a truly absurd number of missiles, spiked tentacle boarding cables, assorted sentry guns, some kind of death ray he uses in space station mode.

Abilities: Colossal strength and absurd durability, claws and jaws, lethal tail swipe, survived not one, but two colossal drops, can transform into a warship or space station capable of orbital bombardment. As big a ham as his chassis is.

In the other corner.

Final wars Godzilla facts:

Size: 100 meters

Mass: 55,000 tons

Weaponry: Atomic breath ray

Abilities: Claws, jaws, skilled with fighting other giant monsters, pinpoint accuracy with breath ray; surprisingly fast, very strong and incredibly durable, extremely rapid healing factor, capable of firing at high speed enemies or even meteors plummeting from orbit, skilled user of his tail.

Rules: Anything goes. Trypticon is aided by a contingent of Decepticon Leapers, Vehicons Brutes, normal troopers, marauders, and aerielcons in all rounds, Godzilla is aided by the remainder of the world's militaries in all rounds.

Scenario: The Decepticons are invading the Earth under the command of Megatron. The militaries of the planet lie shattered before the space robots, and mankind faces it's darkest hour. But the Earth has stronger defenders than mere tanks and planes, for Godzilla has come to repel the Decepticons from his territory. After slaughtering his way through the mechanical invaders, Godzilla proves to be enough of a problem for Megatron to command Trypticon to drop onto Godzilla from orbit after transforming out of his spaceship mode.

Round 1: Godzilla stands alone (plus the army).

Round 2: Godzilla may call upon Mothra and Anguirus (both Final Wars versions) to defeat the mechanical monster.

Round 3: Godzilla has a sized up Kiryu from GxMG as his ally, this version has the absolute zero cannon, but also has the drill hand.

Round 4: Godzilla is aided by the Gotengo.

Round 5: Godzilla has all of his above allies, but Trypticon is aided by a sized up fall of Cybertron Bruticus and all of the named decepticons in WFC, FoC and Transformers Prime, and a battery of Five warp cannons. Shockwave will have a week of prep time.

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#2 Edited by xlab3000 (3206 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32997 posts) - - Show Bio

Jeez Trypticon is a beast

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#4 Posted by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Jeez Trypticon is a beast

Well, if Trypticon were anything less, he wouldn't be much of an ace in the hole, now would he?

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#6 Posted by NeonGameWave (7712 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla.

#7 Posted by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

Even against someone who's three-ish times taller than he is?

#8 Posted by beautifulrevery (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vrakmul said:

Even against someone who's three-ish times taller than he is?

I'm pretty sure he's killed things around that size in his earlier years when he's not as powerful as this form. Final Wars Godzilla tore through almost his entire rogues gallery of Kaiju in about a day or two. Not to mention one shotting half of them(Zilla for one, the crappy American "Godzilla").

#9 Posted by Ultra_Girl_ (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Trypticon can just bombard Godzilla from orbit till he dies, especially if were using the one in the picture

#10 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla has this...in Final Wars he was not only taking on practically every monster, but showed ridiculous endurance...

Godzilla will just go all atomic on Trypticon's butt...

#11 Posted by thefusescape (190 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude... Godzilla is just insane... Not even full blown angry hulk could stop him... (nick has mentioned it saw it can't find it again) Anyways yeah Godzilla just takes him down, a big fight then godzilla's insane endurence and combat abylitys (he hit a monster in orbit 1 shot dead with his atomic blast) he could kill it. Never underestimate the power of his atomic blasts.

#12 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say godzilla should take this.

#13 Posted by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@thefusescape said:

Dude... Godzilla is just insane... Not even full blown angry hulk could stop him... (nick has mentioned it saw it can't find it again) Anyways yeah Godzilla just takes him down, a big fight then godzilla's insane endurence and combat abylitys (he hit a monster in orbit 1 shot dead with his atomic blast) he could kill it. Never underestimate the power of his atomic blasts.

If you're referring to Monster X, while Godzilla did destroy the asteroid that was carrying him, Monster X still survived to drop down and have an awesome fight with him.

#14 Posted by PsychoJack (174 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla has all two rounds as he can't really die because of his regeneration and durability. Hell Godzilla wouldn't need backup (a better choice would have been King Ghidorah, Mecha Godzilla, Space Godzilla, Kiryu, Destroyah, Biollante or Bagan) as the Final Wars version of Mothra and Anguris are not that powerful. Anyway, Godzilla takes this.

#15 Posted by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

Added some new rounds for more food for thought.

#16 Edited by gallavant123 (56 posts) - - Show Bio

FW Godzilla's physical strength: Threw a giant 40 meter tall spider several miles in a couple seconds, some people try to call this an outlier. Easily throw Kaiser Ghidorah 500 meters distance (which weighs 100,000 tons according to godzilla wiki), however this feat was after Godzilla got a powerup.

An earlier version of Godzilla, Heisei Godzilla, threw 150,000 ton Mechagodzilla 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwwZEBharJ8a

FW Godzilla's beam ray kinetic energy: The normal blue beam pushed Hedorah directly upwards at super-sonic speeds for a second or two (maybe Mach 2). After that it pushed Hedorah, Ebirah, and a 400 foot tall skyscraper many hundreds of meters (between 500-1000 meters distance) until they hit a bigger skyscraper.

http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Hedorah

http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Ebirah

The normal beam also pushed a 1 kilometer diameter, floating Xillian mothership. Watch the left side of the video at 0:12 and you will see that the mothership is being pushed. Also notice how the screen moves at the end of the video, like the mothership had just been tilted by Godzilla's beam and was balancing itself.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/aliens_sdf/mothership.htm

The full power beam slowed down and destroyed an unrealisticly fast meteor that was bigger than Monster X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxavf1Zlf4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyilfg2fRZM

Then of course, with osaki's kaiser powers, his spiral beam pushed 100,000 Kaiser Ghidorah tons into orbit in 5 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0qhL13rpIY

DC of FW Godzilla's atomic breath: At least small city level without powerup (based off the meteor explosion).

With powerup, he sent a monster over 100 miles up in seconds and created an explosion visible on Earth's surface.The pushing power of that alone can be calculated to be at least megatons per second, probably double digit megatons per second.

Then of course you have to remember that it's a beam attack, its much more efficient than a normal nuke. He can concentrate his nuclear strength, meteor-stopping energy to a 10 meter wide area for as long as 15 seconds.

@Vrakmul said:

@thefusescape said:

Dude... Godzilla is just insane... Not even full blown angry hulk could stop him... (nick has mentioned it saw it can't find it again) Anyways yeah Godzilla just takes him down, a big fight then godzilla's insane endurence and combat abylitys (he hit a monster in orbit 1 shot dead with his atomic blast) he could kill it. Never underestimate the power of his atomic blasts.

If you're referring to Monster X, while Godzilla did destroy the asteroid that was carrying him, Monster X still survived to drop down and have an awesome fight with him.

He might be talking about Kaiser Ghidorah

#17 Posted by Frocharocha (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ultra_Girl_ said:

Trypticon can just bombard Godzilla from orbit till he dies, especially if were using the one in the picture

He destroyed an asteroid carrying weapon X at FTL speed way deep in space.

#18 Posted by dondave (36461 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla ftw

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#19 Edited by gallavant123 (56 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha said:

@Ultra_Girl_ said:

Trypticon can just bombard Godzilla from orbit till he dies, especially if were using the one in the picture

He destroyed an asteroid carrying weapon X at FTL speed way deep in space.

It wasn't FTL but it's probably over 10 times faster than the fastest real life meteors.. many hundreds of miles per second.. thousands of times the speed of sound. And I think it's called Monster X not weapon x.

But yes, your right, Godzilla would be able to shoot things that are thousands of miles away

#20 Edited by Vorzhilok_the_Traumatizer (280 posts) - - Show Bio

Now this is a battle I think that Godzilla would need to use his superior speed to get in a win. Getting into a slugging match with someone whom you don't really even reach the hip of is never a great idea. The atomic breath ray will hurt a helluva lot, but Trypticon has shown to be able to take absolutely absurd amounts of punishment, dropping from an uncontrolled crash onto Cybertron, which appears to be bigger and as it is made solely of metal; would have greater mass and thus higher gravity than the Earth making his impact even more painful; and promptly dragged himself out of his crater none the worse for wear.

However, Trypticon did have a work around to his otherwise seeming invincibility, if I recall correctly shooting him in a specific place would cause him to overheat and become more vulnerable to attack, or was it shut down his ridiculously large arsenal of weapons? But I digress, one big thing in Godzilla's favor is that Godzilla has more experience fighting other giant monsters than literally any other giant monster in fictiondom. Trypticon only ever fought things that were to him as a human is to Godzilla and seemed to be equipped for that purpose in mind. That being said, Trypticon is also righteously huge ecksbawks hueg fraggin' ginormous.

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See that little speck near his foot? That's bumblebee.. And the guy to his right? Omega Supreme, who is also considered Kaiju sized by transformer standards. Bruticus would come up to about the top of Omega Supreme's legs.

If bumblebee was a five inch figure then a Trypticon toy would be bigger than an elephant and a human would be maybe an inch and a half. Godzilla would be about three quarters of Omega supreme's height minus the antennae thingies.

#21 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, Godzilla can be overrated. I think Trypticon has this.

#22 Posted by Frocharocha (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@gallavant123 said:

@Frocharocha said:

@Ultra_Girl_ said:

Trypticon can just bombard Godzilla from orbit till he dies, especially if were using the one in the picture

He destroyed an asteroid carrying weapon X at FTL speed way deep in space.

It wasn't FTL but it's probably over 10 times faster than the fastest real life meteors.. many hundreds of miles per second.. thousands of times the speed of sound. And I think it's called Monster X not weapon x.

But yes, your right, Godzilla would be able to shoot things that are thousands of miles away

Ops sorry. Some times i confound their names. Anyway, assuming Monster X camed from the Xiliens homeworld in less than 2 days, he had to be traveling FTL.

#23 Posted by Vorzhilok_the_Traumatizer (280 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha :

He almost certainly slowed down as he approached the Earth.

#24 Posted by Shikarenji (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla . If it was burning Godzilla he'd win no contest

#25 Posted by Glitch_in_the_System (90 posts) - - Show Bio

I think some people are selling Trypticon short. He survived colossal amounts of punishment and remained intact and can dish out a massive amount of hurt himself.

#26 Posted by jwalser3 (4885 posts) - - Show Bio

Trypticon takes this.

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Weaker version tanks Black Holes.

Accurately hits and slows down a Subliminal Speed Asteroid. Then tanks the City wide blast.

I mean what is any machine Transformer going to do getting hit with repeated Nuke bomb level blasts?

#28 Posted by Glitch_in_the_System (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2:

Given that Trypticon survived the equivalent of two orbital drops, getting pummeled by pretty much every Autobot Optimus could throw at him, then suffered even more abuse as the Nemesis without serious harm, I'd say that he's quite capable of tanking a lot.

#29 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Glitch_in_the_System: Well Master Chief of Halo survived 2 Orbital Drops. Hulk survived Mutiple Orbital Drops. Neither one is tanking GZ Atomic Blasts.

#30 Posted by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2:

Master chief needed protection to do that and fell on a planet with earth gravity. Trypticon had an uncontrolled drop twice and crashed hard enough to gouge out a massive crater in an entirely metal planet with significantly higher than Earth gravity.

#31 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vrakmul: True and False. MC in a Pic needed Protection from the piece of Ship but still free felled and in Halo 3 Cinema Chief simply free fell with just his armour. It really is not that impressive free falling from orbit these days.

#32 Posted by terry2012 (5074 posts) - - Show Bio

@gallavant123: This.

#33 Posted by Frocharocha (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Vrakmul: True and False. MC in a Pic needed Protection from the piece of Ship but still free felled and in Halo 3 Cinema Chief simply free fell with just his armour. It really is not that impressive free falling from orbit these days.

Back in Halo 2 was amazing. Anyway How much damage Godzilla Blast would do to trypticon. Outside that, if Godzilla get's his power boosted, then bye bye trypticon.

#34 Edited by Vrakmul (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Vrakmul: True and False. MC in a Pic needed Protection from the piece of Ship but still free felled and in Halo 3 Cinema Chief simply free fell with just his armour. It really is not that impressive free falling from orbit these days.

The difference in energy one would have to survive after dropping from orbit onto an earth like planet if you're merely human sized and if you're Trypticon size is truly enormous. If Trypticon were to fall onto say, London; you could kiss most of England goodbye as a massive fireball equivalent to several hundred megatons to several gigatons of force obliterates everything in a massive radius.

#35 Posted by oppagangnamstyle19 (143 posts) - - Show Bio

I really think Godzilla is the same size as Trypticon unless you are trying to make Trypticon better.

#36 Posted by Count Bleck (777 posts) - - Show Bio

@oppagangnamstyle19 said:

I really think Godzilla is the same size as Trypticon unless you are trying to make Trypticon better.

Given that Trypticon is godzilla sized relative to transformers who tower over humans, he should tower over Godzilla.

#37 Posted by Anal_Vomit (759 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool thread, But Godzilla has tooo much durability.

#38 Posted by nickthedevil (12024 posts) - - Show Bio

Trypticon absolutely wrecks Godzilla all rounds

#39 Posted by OpCharybdis (190 posts) - - Show Bio

Godzilla's durability>Black Holes.

That instantly puts his durability above Trypticon's.

#40 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@oppagangnamstyle19 said:

I really think Godzilla is the same size as Trypticon unless you are trying to make Trypticon better.

Given that Trypticon is godzilla sized relative to transformers who tower over humans, he should tower over Godzilla.

Trypitcon is 300 Meters. Hensie and Final Wars Godzilla is 100 Meters. Showa Godzilla is 50 meters... yeeesh.

Anyway he towers of Godzilla, and like most Cities bigger than Godzilla gets nuke in one blast.

#41 Posted by z3n_spyder616 (88 posts) - - Show Bio

godzilla owns after a long fight

#42 Posted by daHOLYxboxmastr (46 posts) - - Show Bio

So actually I've been researching this a lot lately...

Godzilla would actually lose all of these rounds. All of the Decepticons aiding Trypticon would just have to focus their fire on Godzilla's support and kill them all and then focus on Godzilla. Especially by round five it would be a bloody mess for Godzilla. All of that superheated plamsa and cannons would kick the crap out of him. Keep in mind Godzilla died twice guys.

In both the original film, "Gojira", and "Godzilla vs Destroya"